Piotr Parzyszek - SIGNED UNTIL 2018 - CONFIRMED
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Would be mine, if he scores 25+ goalsMarriott110 said:
Would people eating humble pie over PP be your highlight of next season Paulie?paulie8290 said:If he comes good there will be some red faces after comments on here and I hope people are happy to apologise and admit they was wrong
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Started to get boring nowMarriott110 said:
Would people eating humble pie over PP be your highlight of next season Paulie?paulie8290 said:If he comes good there will be some red faces after comments on here and I hope people are happy to apologise and admit they was wrong
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What a surprise. It's Powell and DYER's fault.scabbyhorse said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqtCeKMsbhU
Powell and DYER got the hump when piotr was bought because they didnt ask for him and so they ruined the boys confidence by telling him he was shit and playing him in the under 21s.
Strange that Riga saw it the same way but of course his confidence was ruined by playing in the U21s just like Poyet and Cousins and Fox and Harriot did.10 -
Don't you ever feel embarrassed coming out with this crap?scabbyhorse said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqtCeKMsbhU
Powell and DYER got the hump when piotr was bought because they didnt ask for him and so they ruined the boys confidence by telling him he was shit and playing him in the under 21s.17 -
Your constant CP/AD smearing knows no bounds. You know, you undermine any valid points and criticisms by coming out with this sort of thing.scabbyhorse said:
Powell and DYER got the hump when piotr was bought because they didnt ask for him and so they ruined the boys confidence by telling him he was shit and playing him in the under 21s.
Anyway, I don't know why I've bitten. He was two head coaches ago now anyway so we might as well all "move on".5 -
Henry Irving said:
What a surprise. It's Powell and DYER's fault.scabbyhorse said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqtCeKMsbhU
Powell and DYER got the hump when piotr was bought because they didnt ask for him and so they ruined the boys confidence by telling him he was shit and playing him in the under 21s.
Strange that Riga saw it the same way but of course his confidence was ruined by playing in the U21s just like Poyet and Cousins and Fox and Harriot did.
Because Dyer told Riga lies about Piotr and Riga belived him.
feck me sometimes you guys are to easy.3 -
Because Dyer told Riga lies about Piotr and Riga belived him.scabbyhorse said:Henry Irving said:
What a surprise. It's Powell and DYER's fault.scabbyhorse said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqtCeKMsbhU
Powell and DYER got the hump when piotr was bought because they didnt ask for him and so they ruined the boys confidence by telling him he was shit and playing him in the under 21s.
Strange that Riga saw it the same way but of course his confidence was ruined by playing in the U21s just like Poyet and Cousins and Fox and Harriot did.
feck me sometimes you guys are to easy.
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LOL never ever numptieUboat said:
Don't you ever feel embarrassed coming out with this crap?scabbyhorse said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqtCeKMsbhU
Powell and DYER got the hump when piotr was bought because they didnt ask for him and so they ruined the boys confidence by telling him he was shit and playing him in the under 21s.0 -
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Because Dyer told Riga lies about Piotr and Riga belived him.scabbyhorse said:Henry Irving said:
What a surprise. It's Powell and DYER's fault.scabbyhorse said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqtCeKMsbhU
Powell and DYER got the hump when piotr was bought because they didnt ask for him and so they ruined the boys confidence by telling him he was shit and playing him in the under 21s.
Strange that Riga saw it the same way but of course his confidence was ruined by playing in the U21s just like Poyet and Cousins and Fox and Harriot did.
How long was you waiting for that
feck me sometimes you guys are to easy.
Ha!
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Because Dyer told Riga lies about Piotr and Riga belived him.scabbyhorse said:Henry Irving said:
What a surprise. It's Powell and DYER's fault.scabbyhorse said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqtCeKMsbhU
Powell and DYER got the hump when piotr was bought because they didnt ask for him and so they ruined the boys confidence by telling him he was shit and playing him in the under 21s.
Strange that Riga saw it the same way but of course his confidence was ruined by playing in the U21s just like Poyet and Cousins and Fox and Harriot did.
feck me sometimes you guys are to easy.
You really, really need to move on now.
Your hero Powell isn't here anymore, just let the pain go.2 - Sponsored links:
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You really, really need to move on now.Henry Irving said:
Because Dyer told Riga lies about Piotr and Riga belived him.scabbyhorse said:Henry Irving said:
What a surprise. It's Powell and DYER's fault.scabbyhorse said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqtCeKMsbhU
Powell and DYER got the hump when piotr was bought because they didnt ask for him and so they ruined the boys confidence by telling him he was shit and playing him in the under 21s.
Strange that Riga saw it the same way but of course his confidence was ruined by playing in the U21s just like Poyet and Cousins and Fox and Harriot did.
feck me sometimes you guys are to easy.
Your hero Powell isn't here anymore, just let the pain go.
Goodbye (Scabby) horse,
Goodbye (Scabby) horse,
And as he was saying goodbye to his (Scabby) horse,
Saying goodbye to his (Scabby) horse!1 -
Any evidence......?scabbyhorse said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqtCeKMsbhU
Powell and DYER got the hump when piotr was bought because they didnt ask for him and so they ruined the boys confidence by telling him he was shit and playing him in the under 21s.
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Sorry to interrupt the intellectual debate, but the length of Piotr's contract indicates that someone with a bit of power in the organisation obviously rates him highly. I can't see Roland allowing 4/5 years unless he is very confident about the commitment, and he should now benefit from having a Head Coach who has been a useful striker himself.1
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The wording and introduction when he arrived was far too high profile, presumably to cover the bad PR from the loss of Yann.
If the wording had said
"Piotr is a hot prospect for the future, and we expect him to develop into a major asset for the team in future seasons"
then nobody would have expected him to be a 1st teamer last season, and nobody would be disappointed with him.
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To be fair, That video is decent, Yeah its you-tube but he certainly looks full on confidence and I think Bob can be the man to get him up and running.0
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charltonaddickedmatt said:
To be fair, That video is decent, Yeah its you-tube but he certainly looks full on confidence and I think Bob
canwill be the man told to get him up and running.0 -
I posted this yesterday on the COG thread when it ought really to be on this one.
Piotr is certainly an enigma wrapped in a conundrum covering a mystery, but I hope (and suspect) not hiding a vacuum.
As kids we had the concept of a goal hanger, nowadays it might be described as a penalty box or 18 yard player. Piotr's vids, and indeed the good fellow himself says as much, he is a finisher...will be happy to score soft, or dustbin, or snap shot goals, but in the box will try to score with every touch.
Now that is well and good. However you have to take into account offsides, balls actually finding their way into the area frequently, and to cope with the hairy championship defenders who are trying to stop you. Being only a penalty box player is a tough gig these days and others try to add a few more strings to their bows.
It is quite thought provoking contemplating the kind of striker Piotr is with Simon Church. Church runs and runs, chases everything down, never gives up, is very team oriented...but sadly when it comes to even getting a fair share of dustbin goals he falls short.
Piotr is very goal orientated, is not the kind of player to compensate for lack of scoring by running and running. So what have we acquired? A player who will be prolific if it can be accepted that his overt work rate will be average, and if the ball is played into the area twenty times a game at a variety of heights and angles. We were not set up like that at the moment Piotr arrived.
When Piotr arrived the first team were not getting the ball up front particularly frequently beyond Yann being a focus, and certainly not much in wider areas, the development squad culture and players available were similar. Piotr was therefore pitched not only into an alien cultural environment at such a young age, but an alien footballing environment, and asked to play in a way that was alien to him and not playing to his strengths. The result a massive confidence loss.
I have said elsewhere he needs support to rebuild his game, but he may also need to add an extra aspect to his game in order to get regular Championship football. I can't think of many Championship goalscorers who are able to simply be a penalty area player. Ross McCormack is a typical example of a player who is involved everywhere, and somehow some more qualities need to be added to Piotr's game.
It may be Bobbin along and the new coaching regime can unwrap the goodies in Piotr, but I also think his acquisition at the time he came made absolutely no sense. I happen to think more or less the same about Reza. I have seen Anil Koc and would rather not comment, although what I have seen of Loic Nego is more encouraging.
Poitr ought not to be written off, but he certainly needs some restoration work before he is ready, and I say that however much our football next season will be radical, modern and continental.3 -
seth plum said:
I posted this yesterday on the COG thread when it ought really to be on this one.
Piotr is certainly an enigma wrapped in a conundrum covering a mystery, but I hope (and suspect) not hiding a vacuum.
As kids we had the concept of a goal hanger, nowadays it might be described as a penalty box or 18 yard player. Piotr's vids, and indeed the good fellow himself says as much, he is a finisher...will be happy to score soft, or dustbin, or snap shot goals, but in the box will try to score with every touch.
Now that is well and good. However you have to take into account offsides, balls actually finding their way into the area frequently, and to cope with the hairy championship defenders who are trying to stop you. Being only a penalty box player is a tough gig these days and others try to add a few more strings to their bows.
It is quite thought provoking contemplating the kind of striker Piotr is with Simon Church. Church runs and runs, chases everything down, never gives up, is very team oriented...but sadly when it comes to even getting a fair share of dustbin goals he falls short.
Piotr is very goal orientated, is not the kind of player to compensate for lack of scoring by running and running. So what have we acquired? A player who will be prolific if it can be accepted that his overt work rate will be average, and if the ball is played into the area twenty times a game at a variety of heights and angles. We were not set up like that at the moment Piotr arrived.
When Piotr arrived the first team were not getting the ball up front particularly frequently beyond Yann being a focus, and certainly not much in wider areas, the development squad culture and players available were similar. Piotr was therefore pitched not only into an alien cultural environment at such a young age, but an alien footballing environment, and asked to play in a way that was alien to him and not playing to his strengths. The result a massive confidence loss.
I have said elsewhere he needs support to rebuild his game, but he may also need to add an extra aspect to his game in order to get regular Championship football. I can't think of many Championship goalscorers who are able to simply be a penalty area player. Ross McCormack is a typical example of a player who is involved everywhere, and somehow some more qualities need to be added to Piotr's game.
It may be Bobbin along and the new coaching regime can unwrap the goodies in Piotr, but I also think his acquisition at the time he came made absolutely no sense. I happen to think more or less the same about Reza. I have seen Anil Koc and would rather not comment, although what I have seen of Loic Nego is more encouraging.
Poitr ought not to be written off, but he certainly needs some restoration work before he is ready, and I say that however much our football next season will be radical, modern and continental.
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Reading on other threads PP is getting pelters from a lot of posters, although I suspect a lot of people have hopped onto the bandwagon.
I only saw him for about 10 mins at the Valley during his one appearance (?). I have no idea if he is any good.
So hands up all those that have formed an opinion based on those 10 mins.2 -
How will you know if someone has their hand up?12
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A few people have said he was pony for the U21's, but i think it may be a psychological thing. I really want to see him in the first team before i make a decision on the lad. He's still young.2
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Agree VG, I was confused because a lot of people have sad he was pony. But Ive seen some comments by posters about games I've watched and they have the polar opposite view to me.....ValleyGary said:A few people have said he was pony for the U21's, but i think it may be a psychological thing. I really want to see him in the first team before i make a decision on the lad. He's still young.
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He's physchologically pony? I'd say more physical from the game I watched him. ;-)ValleyGary said:A few people have said he was pony for the U21's, but i think it may be a psychological thing. I really want to see him in the first team before i make a decision on the lad. He's still young.
Either way we've been ripped off for him, but we can judge him fully when he's playing at a harder level. But why should he be given the chance over those who are constantly out performing him at U21 level? For example Ansah jumps right ahead of him in the pecking order as he's been performing at U21 level consistently, and at Arsenal not Charlton!1 -
Part of the problem is he was pitched by the website (implicitly but pretty clearly) as being pretty much a prodigy, a straight replacement for Kermorgant, a first team not youth squad player... in reality he is just a promising but inexperienced kid in a foreign country trying to adapt to a different style of football. Not his fault at all, but heightened expectations = higher disappointment.7
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Piotr will come good!
He's only been here 6 months give the kid a chance. Peeters was a striker so hopefully he can teach him a few things1 -
Which is my point about it might be in his head.Atletico Addick said:
He's physchologically pony? I'd say more physical from the game I watched him. ;-)ValleyGary said:A few people have said he was pony for the U21's, but i think it may be a psychological thing. I really want to see him in the first team before i make a decision on the lad. He's still young.
Either way we've been ripped off for him, but we can judge him fully when he's playing at a harder level. But why should he be given the chance over those who are constantly out performing him at U21 level? For example Ansah jumps right ahead of him in the pecking order as he's been performing at U21 level consistently, and at Arsenal not Charlton!
The kid doesnt know the language, the culture etc. He was playing in front of 10k in holland, where he was scoring goals. Suddenly he's playing in front of 10 people at Sparrows Lane. His confidence might be shot to bits, maybe his attitude should be better. There is obviously something wrong.
I agree that he needs to prove himself, but perhaps he might do that off the bench in first team football.
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pete will be in the side next season! and there will be some red faces from peeps saying hes shit! because he clearly isnt! give the lad a chance1
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