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Time to change: Mental Health. "Time to talk", 6th February.

Went to see a psychiatrist this morning, and will go back to see them again on Monday.
Did help me abit, whilst talking it surprised me how "ignorant" some people are when it comes to Mental Health, but what really shocked me was the fact that it does affect more people than I realised.
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"What are mental health problems?


We all have mental health, like we all have physical health. Both change throughout our lives. And, like our bodies, our minds can become unwell.

Mental health problems might actually be more common than you think. One in four of us will be affected by mental illness in any year. The effects are as real as a broken arm, even though there isn’t a sling or plaster cast to show for it."
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"About Mental Illness
One in four of us will be affected by mental illness at some point in our lives. This may include anxiety, addiction, obsession, phobia, depression, bipolar disorder, personality disorder, schizophrenia or an eating disorder.
These conditions can lead to profound emotions of despair and thoughts of suicide. People's experiences can often be further complicated by alcohol or drug addiction.
Mental illness touches virtually every person in society. As a result most, if not all of us, will be impacted in
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Please, if you feel can add anything to help out anyone going through their MH problems please post it on here.
Also, can we behave like adults and not post any attempted "humour" on here ("I must be mental....I support Charlton....haha", etc).
Thank You.

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    edited January 2014
    February 6th is "Time to talk" day.

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    It's unreal how many people it effects MOG. It also seems to have a taboo about talking about it still, which is bollocks.

    I suffer from it to a very slight degree, it's manageable but a complete pain in the arse at times. You'll be amazed that once you talk to friends about it and explain how you're thinking that it becomes much easier and manageable. You'll also realise how many others have similar traits, foibles etc. which you would never had guessed at.

    Talk to pals. You won't regret it.
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    Great post.I have been having therapy for two years now and feels a very lonely world at times.My problems have impacted massively on life and some days can be very tiring by fighting my issues.
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    Thank you John.
    Wish you well.
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    JohnBoyUK said:

    From personal experience, its tough. Mental Health issues really do affect more people than most realise.

    My family has been through an awful lot of sh*t over the last decade. Far too much to list here and not something I really want to dwell on but let me share the short version.

    I've said on here before that my brother is a Manic Depressive. The more used term these days is Bipolar. He had a good childhood, got married at 22, divorced 6 months later, spent 3 years working and playing harder but his health was deteriorating. He had a breakdown, ie a manic episode and he spent a couple of months in hospital on a psychiatric ward. Until my brother became ill, I had absolutely no idea about Mental Health. Looking back now, that time was the most sobering experience of my life. Although my brother was younger than me, I used to always look up to him as if he was my bigger brother. He had more balls than me, was better looking, more intelligent, he had the world in his hands. He was just so much better than me but overnight, he had almost everything taken away from him. It was hard to accept.

    That was 10 years ago. In that time, I met the ex-wife. A couple of years later, we had a child, sold/bought a house and I started a new job all within 6 months. Just one of them things would have been stressful, let alone all three together. I ended up having a breakdown myself. I just couldnt cope. As a result, my job was on the line and my relationship was on the line. To be fair, the breakdown was probably the beginning of the end for my relationship with the ex-wife. I vividly remember driving down the A2 towards Bexleyheath to drop my daughter off at my parents as my Mum used to babysit for us and all I could think about was ending it and driving into the central-reservation. I felt like I'd come to the end of the line. I ended up on the hard shoulder crying my eyes out for an hour. I've never felt lower.

    I managed to get to my parents and broke down in front of them. Its hard admitting you've got a problem and not knowing what it is. It was hard explaining to the GP and it was even harder trying to make the ex-wife understand where I was coming from. I was a man supposed to be looking after and providing for his family and I was literally standing there shaking in my boots. Was she supportive? No, not at all if I'm honest but I'm not sure how I would have handled the situation had it been the other way around. I ended up being off work for around 6 weeks . I was having panic attacks, anxiety issues, all part and parcel of it. I ended up making a full recovery without medication but it seriously rocked my self-confidence for a good few years afterwards. Work didnt react very well at first but when they realised how serious it was, my senior boss was very understanding and was a great help.

    I was still suffering from depression around 3 years ago but I've made a conscious effort to get physically fitter and my mental heath had improved as a result. Of course I still have the odd bad day here and there but no where near the times where I could literally spend days in bed not wanting to get out.

    Both parents have suffered from depression in recent years too for differing reasons.

    So yeah, it has affected 3 people close to me, including myself. The stigma is awful. I've been fortunate to a degree but my brother hasnt. He used to have a huge circle of friends. He's lucky if he gets one email a year off of any of those people he used to knock about with now. He's been blanked in the street by a friend who was an usher at his wedding, blanked by his old flat mates. Not one of them give a sh*t about him. Its taken him a very long time to come to terms with that more than anything else. To his credit, he's restarted his IT career in the City again after rebuilding very slowly, working part-time locally until he felt well enough to go back. One of his consultants actually told him to give up IT and do something less demanding and also suggested he should take the benefits available to him and never work again. My brother is a proud bloke and would never do that. He was desperate to go back to lead a relatively normal life.

    Apologies for the essay. Its good to talk. Not a lot of people know what I went through but they will now.

    Without a shadow of a doubt the best post I've seen on CL. Makes up for all that shite spoken last night. Huge, huge respect to you JB.
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    edited January 2014
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    If your friend had a broken leg, or he or she had just come out of hospital after an operation, you probably wouldn’t think twice about asking how they were.

    "When we got together we didn't talk about the illness, we did normal regular things...it was a little anchor point in the chaos that was going on, it was just a little pocket of normality which was exactly what I needed at the time." (Tim)
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    fantastic post @JohnBoyUK can relate to quite alot of that
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    There are amazing people out there. Who'd have thought one of them would be a Spurs fan?! (joking John!). Don't give in to those dark days...

    http://metro.co.uk/2014/01/30/finding-mike-jonny-benjamin-reunited-with-the-stranger-who-saved-him-from-suicide-bid-4282482/?ITO=facebook
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    Personally, from my own experience I think the 1 in 4 understates it, chiefly because so many don't talk about it and the stigma attached. The services available really are a postcode lottery as well, one relative was able to access good CBT in Essex, another had it cut off after a few sessions in Sussex.
    Well done to MOG for raising it and a fantastic post JB, I'm sure it will help others.
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    Working for the Ambulance service, it really is shocking the amount of people who have a MH problem. But i found what was more shocking is of those people, the amount that know they have a problem and want help but can not get any. They are constanly told to wait as they are on a list to be seen, but nothing else happens.
    Many are so desperately in need of help, they call us thinking that we can help them, but all we can offer is to take them to A&E to speak to someone. We used to be able to take them to the local MH unit (Oxleas mostly) directly, but this was a trail ( which we thought was very sucessful) but stopped. Now its sit for hours in a packed waiting room in A&E to see the oncall duty MH team, and normally get sent home with yet more pills and another refferal which never happens!
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    cafckev said:

    Working for the Ambulance service, it really is shocking the amount of people who have a MH problem. But i found what was more shocking is of those people, the amount that know they have a problem and want help but can not get any. They are constanly told to wait as they are on a list to be seen, but nothing else happens.
    Many are so desperately in need of help, they call us thinking that we can help them, but all we can offer is to take them to A&E to speak to someone. We used to be able to take them to the local MH unit (Oxleas mostly) directly, but this was a trail ( which we thought was very sucessful) but stopped. Now its sit for hours in a packed waiting room in A&E to see the oncall duty MH team, and normally get sent home with yet more pills and another refferal which never happens!

    Kev, I can think back to 2004/5 when my brother had his first manic episode. Wont go into the details but I managed to get him home to my parents and they called our GP out on an emergency call. When the GP came out (who was MP for Dartford at the time), ordered us to take him to A&E at Queen Mary's where he would be assessed before being admitted to the Woodlands Unit at Oxleas (on the QM site). Imagine sitting in A&E with a very distressed individual going through a manic episode. Absolutely ridiculous. Got there at 11am, didnt even get seen until gone 6pm and was finally admitted into Woodlands about 2am once he'd been assessed by the Mental Health team. I wont forget that day. That was almost a decade ago so I dread to think what it is like now after all the cut backs at QM.

    As part of my bruv's bipolar, his episodes of mania results in him heading to London and walking for hours and days. He's been missing for 4/5 days at a time and he's literally had the whole of the Met Police looking for him. One episode resulted in him going up to a policeman, telling him he had a problem and could he take him to the nearest hospital. Rather than calling for an ambulance, he called for back up and sectioned him despite not being a threat to anybody and was "held" in a secure padded cell in the local MH assessment unit (think it was St George's at Tooting) and it made his condition even worse. They couldnt find a bed for him at any of the MH units in London or the South-East so was ferried by taxi with me at his side to a private hospital somewhere near Sevenoaks (seriously, it was one hell of an amazing place, more like a hotel than a hospital) but we had a police escort all the way there from Tooting. Unbelievable. All because my brother went up to a policeman and asked for help!

    Having said all that, I cant fault the care Oxleas have given him over the years. The outreach teams have been excellent. He's got a great relationship with his on-call counsellor if he needs a chat or reassurance at any time and they've been fully supportive of him trying to lead as normal a life as possible (to which he does for the most part!)


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    Just been reading this -what an amazing thread. Massive respect to you all.

    Mog, thank you. John Boy, your brother is lucky to have you by his side. The strength and courage that you and others on this thread have shown, I can only aspire to.

    I wish you and your loved ones all the best.
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    JohnBoyUK said:

    From personal experience, its tough. Mental Health issues really do affect more people than most realise.

    My family has been through an awful lot of sh*t over the last decade. Far too much to list here and not something I really want to dwell on but let me share the short version.

    I've said on here before that my brother is a Manic Depressive. The more used term these days is Bipolar. He had a good childhood, got married at 22, divorced 6 months later, spent 3 years working and playing harder but his health was deteriorating. He had a breakdown, ie a manic episode and he spent a couple of months in hospital on a psychiatric ward. Until my brother became ill, I had absolutely no idea about Mental Health. Looking back now, that time was the most sobering experience of my life. Although my brother was younger than me, I used to always look up to him as if he was my bigger brother. He had more balls than me, was better looking, more intelligent, he had the world in his hands. He was just so much better than me but overnight, he had almost everything taken away from him. It was hard to accept.

    That was 10 years ago. In that time, I met the ex-wife. A couple of years later, we had a child, sold/bought a house and I started a new job all within 6 months. Just one of them things would have been stressful, let alone all three together. I ended up having a breakdown myself. I just couldnt cope. As a result, my job was on the line and my relationship was on the line. To be fair, the breakdown was probably the beginning of the end for my relationship with the ex-wife. I vividly remember driving down the A2 towards Bexleyheath to drop my daughter off at my parents as my Mum used to babysit for us and all I could think about was ending it and driving into the central-reservation. I felt like I'd come to the end of the line. I ended up on the hard shoulder crying my eyes out for an hour. I've never felt lower.

    I managed to get to my parents and broke down in front of them. Its hard admitting you've got a problem and not knowing what it is. It was hard explaining to the GP and it was even harder trying to make the ex-wife understand where I was coming from. I was a man supposed to be looking after and providing for his family and I was literally standing there shaking in my boots. Was she supportive? No, not at all if I'm honest but I'm not sure how I would have handled the situation had it been the other way around. I ended up being off work for around 6 weeks . I was having panic attacks, anxiety issues, all part and parcel of it. I ended up making a full recovery without medication but it seriously rocked my self-confidence for a good few years afterwards. Work didnt react very well at first but when they realised how serious it was, my senior boss was very understanding and was a great help.

    I was still suffering from depression around 3 years ago but I've made a conscious effort to get physically fitter and my mental heath had improved as a result. Of course I still have the odd bad day here and there but no where near the times where I could literally spend days in bed not wanting to get out.

    Both parents have suffered from depression in recent years too for differing reasons.

    So yeah, it has affected 3 people close to me, including myself. The stigma is awful. I've been fortunate to a degree but my brother hasnt. He used to have a huge circle of friends. He's lucky if he gets one email a year off of any of those people he used to knock about with now. He's been blanked in the street by a friend who was an usher at his wedding, blanked by his old flat mates. Not one of them give a sh*t about him. Its taken him a very long time to come to terms with that more than anything else. To his credit, he's restarted his IT career in the City again after rebuilding very slowly, working part-time locally until he felt well enough to go back. One of his consultants actually told him to give up IT and do something less demanding and also suggested he should take the benefits available to him and never work again. My brother is a proud bloke and would never do that. He was desperate to go back to lead a relatively normal life.

    Apologies for the essay. Its good to talk. Not a lot of people know what I went through but they will now.

    Great post John Boy. I'm glad we have people like you on here.
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    JohnBoyUK said:

    From personal experience, its tough. Mental Health issues really do affect more people than most realise.

    My family has been through an awful lot of sh*t over the last decade. Far too much to list here and not something I really want to dwell on but let me share the short version.

    I've said on here before that my brother is a Manic Depressive. The more used term these days is Bipolar. He had a good childhood, got married at 22, divorced 6 months later, spent 3 years working and playing harder but his health was deteriorating. He had a breakdown, ie a manic episode and he spent a couple of months in hospital on a psychiatric ward. Until my brother became ill, I had absolutely no idea about Mental Health. Looking back now, that time was the most sobering experience of my life. Although my brother was younger than me, I used to always look up to him as if he was my bigger brother. He had more balls than me, was better looking, more intelligent, he had the world in his hands. He was just so much better than me but overnight, he had almost everything taken away from him. It was hard to accept.

    That was 10 years ago. In that time, I met the ex-wife. A couple of years later, we had a child, sold/bought a house and I started a new job all within 6 months. Just one of them things would have been stressful, let alone all three together. I ended up having a breakdown myself. I just couldnt cope. As a result, my job was on the line and my relationship was on the line. To be fair, the breakdown was probably the beginning of the end for my relationship with the ex-wife. I vividly remember driving down the A2 towards Bexleyheath to drop my daughter off at my parents as my Mum used to babysit for us and all I could think about was ending it and driving into the central-reservation. I felt like I'd come to the end of the line. I ended up on the hard shoulder crying my eyes out for an hour. I've never felt lower.

    I managed to get to my parents and broke down in front of them. Its hard admitting you've got a problem and not knowing what it is. It was hard explaining to the GP and it was even harder trying to make the ex-wife understand where I was coming from. I was a man supposed to be looking after and providing for his family and I was literally standing there shaking in my boots. Was she supportive? No, not at all if I'm honest but I'm not sure how I would have handled the situation had it been the other way around. I ended up being off work for around 6 weeks . I was having panic attacks, anxiety issues, all part and parcel of it. I ended up making a full recovery without medication but it seriously rocked my self-confidence for a good few years afterwards. Work didnt react very well at first but when they realised how serious it was, my senior boss was very understanding and was a great help.

    I was still suffering from depression around 3 years ago but I've made a conscious effort to get physically fitter and my mental heath had improved as a result. Of course I still have the odd bad day here and there but no where near the times where I could literally spend days in bed not wanting to get out.

    Both parents have suffered from depression in recent years too for differing reasons.

    So yeah, it has affected 3 people close to me, including myself. The stigma is awful. I've been fortunate to a degree but my brother hasnt. He used to have a huge circle of friends. He's lucky if he gets one email a year off of any of those people he used to knock about with now. He's been blanked in the street by a friend who was an usher at his wedding, blanked by his old flat mates. Not one of them give a sh*t about him. Its taken him a very long time to come to terms with that more than anything else. To his credit, he's restarted his IT career in the City again after rebuilding very slowly, working part-time locally until he felt well enough to go back. One of his consultants actually told him to give up IT and do something less demanding and also suggested he should take the benefits available to him and never work again. My brother is a proud bloke and would never do that. He was desperate to go back to lead a relatively normal life.

    Apologies for the essay. Its good to talk. Not a lot of people know what I went through but they will now.

    well said john boy.

    I too have it in my family, my mothers father, my mother, me and my sisters eldest daughter and probably one of my two nieces children will probably suffer the same fate, their far too you young at the moment to be able to tell.

    I desperately wished my nieces and my nephew ( whose childless right now ) wouldn't have children so that this genetic defect we have would be snuffed out but how much should I have been involved, it is their lives but I did try to impress upon them what they would be inflicting on their kids and would they feel ok about any of them suffering in the way we have. found it hard to understand why they may be ok about that possibility!

    as stephen hawking said " it's good to talk " lets make sure we continue to do that.
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    Just read ur post johnboy and really sums up how I feel somedays most times I'm ok then I have these periods where I wonder what's the point to it all? Think a lot of us are just one more incident from being tipped over that edge.
    Glad it coming together for u now
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