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Trust and Fans Forum suggest comms plan for future Valley games

PragueAddickPragueAddick
in General Charlton
The Trust and the Fans Forum have jointly proposed to the Club a suggested systematic communications plan for all future games at the Valley this season. On the assumption that the pitch is vulnerable to the weather for the foreseeable future, we hope that such a plan could at least reduce the number of wasted journeys and expense for fans, if the match referee again postpones a game late in the day.

Read the letter here. It was sent to Steve Bradshaw earlier this afternoon.

Comments

  • stilladdictedstilladdicted
    Well done to the Trust and the Fans Forum. I really hope that this initiative will receive a positive response. Was Katrien Meire copied in as a matter of interest, it would seem courteous to do so.
  • PragueAddickPragueAddick
    stilladdicted said:

    Well done to the Trust and the Fans Forum. I really hope that this initiative will receive a positive response. Was Katrien Meire copied in as a matter of interest, it would seem courteous to do so.

    Yes, as was Richard Murray.

  • falconwood_1falconwood_1
    Is this just stating the bleeding obvious or is there no 'Comms team' left?
  • lancashire ladlancashire lad
    well done, the reply will be interesting in whom it is from and what it contains
  • ValiantphilValiantphil
    They will nod and say "yes of course", then nothing will change.

    If you had asked any club official at Noon on Saturday if the pitch was playable - they would have said "yes".

    Clubs already have a duty to the Football League / visiting team to behave in the way you are suggesting.
  • LenGloverLenGlover
    edited January 2014
    Valiantphil said:

    They will nod and say "yes of course", then nothing will change.

    If you had asked any club official at Noon on Saturday if the pitch was playable - they would have said "yes".

    Clubs already have a duty to the Football League / visiting team to behave in the way you are suggesting.

    You may well be right but at least the Trust and Fans' Forum have been proactive and tried which deserves credit in my view.

    It's definite nothing would change with no action!
  • thecrazyaddickthecrazyaddick
    Good letter. As an aside - and perhaps deserving of a different thread. But is there a need for two separate bodies in the fans forum and the trust.

    Do they not have the same if not similar mandates? Perhaps it would make good sense from a communication perspective to amalgamate the two.
  • LenGloverLenGlover
    thecrazyaddick said:

    Good letter. As an aside - and perhaps deserving of a different thread. But is there a need for two separate bodies in the fans forum and the trust.

    Do they not have the same if not similar mandates? Perhaps it would make good sense from a communication perspective to amalgamate the two.

    I think the distinction between the two is that the Fans' Forum is (or historically has been) a CLUB initiative and therefore of questionable independence.

    The Trust is a FAN'S initiative and whilst wanting to work with the Club when possible has the independence to disagree with it if and when needed.

    *Cue posts telling me I'm talking Charlie rap!*
  • se9addickse9addick
    LenGlover said:

    thecrazyaddick said:

    Good letter. As an aside - and perhaps deserving of a different thread. But is there a need for two separate bodies in the fans forum and the trust.

    Do they not have the same if not similar mandates? Perhaps it would make good sense from a communication perspective to amalgamate the two.

    I think the distinction between the two is that the Fans' Forum is (or historically has been) a CLUB initiative and therefore of questionable independence.

    The Trust is a FAN'S initiative and whilst wanting to work with the Club when possible has the independence to disagree with it if and when needed.

    *Cue posts telling me I'm talking Charlie rap!*
    Nope, pretty much it. Both are separate organisations with different remits and are composed very differently but where their interests cross, such as this topic, it makes sense to present a united front.
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    edited January 2014
    LenGlover said:

    thecrazyaddick said:

    Good letter. As an aside - and perhaps deserving of a different thread. But is there a need for two separate bodies in the fans forum and the trust.

    Do they not have the same if not similar mandates? Perhaps it would make good sense from a communication perspective to amalgamate the two.

    I think the distinction between the two is that the Fans' Forum is (or historically has been) a CLUB initiative and therefore of questionable independence.

    The Trust is a FAN'S initiative and whilst wanting to work with the Club when possible has the independence to disagree with it if and when needed.

    *Cue posts telling me I'm talking Charlie rap!*
    Actually you are talking crap proved by the fact that the Trust is part of the Fans' Forum.
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  • LenGloverLenGlover
    Henry Irving said:

    LenGlover said:

    thecrazyaddick said:

    Good letter. As an aside - and perhaps deserving of a different thread. But is there a need for two separate bodies in the fans forum and the trust.

    Do they not have the same if not similar mandates? Perhaps it would make good sense from a communication perspective to amalgamate the two.

    I think the distinction between the two is that the Fans' Forum is (or historically has been) a CLUB initiative and therefore of questionable independence.

    The Trust is a FAN'S initiative and whilst wanting to work with the Club when possible has the independence to disagree with it if and when needed.

    *Cue posts telling me I'm talking Charlie rap!*
    Actually you are talking crap proved by the fact that the Trust is part of the Fans' Forum.
    Presumably because it has chosen to be....
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    LenGlover said:

    Henry Irving said:

    LenGlover said:

    thecrazyaddick said:

    Good letter. As an aside - and perhaps deserving of a different thread. But is there a need for two separate bodies in the fans forum and the trust.

    Do they not have the same if not similar mandates? Perhaps it would make good sense from a communication perspective to amalgamate the two.

    I think the distinction between the two is that the Fans' Forum is (or historically has been) a CLUB initiative and therefore of questionable independence.

    The Trust is a FAN'S initiative and whilst wanting to work with the Club when possible has the independence to disagree with it if and when needed.

    *Cue posts telling me I'm talking Charlie rap!*
    Actually you are talking crap proved by the fact that the Trust is part of the Fans' Forum.
    Presumably because it has chosen to be....

    Yes, but then all the groups chose to be members and as new groups come along (the VIPS, Eltham Addicks and the Trust) they can join as well.

    The ST and FF are, or at least should be, complementary. Independence however is common to both and it is slightly insulting to the people like Fanny, Killerjerrylee, Ashfordaddickted or Badger to suggest that their independence is "questionable".
  • LenGloverLenGlover
    Henry Irving said:

    LenGlover said:

    Henry Irving said:

    LenGlover said:

    thecrazyaddick said:

    Good letter. As an aside - and perhaps deserving of a different thread. But is there a need for two separate bodies in the fans forum and the trust.

    Do they not have the same if not similar mandates? Perhaps it would make good sense from a communication perspective to amalgamate the two.

    I think the distinction between the two is that the Fans' Forum is (or historically has been) a CLUB initiative and therefore of questionable independence.

    The Trust is a FAN'S initiative and whilst wanting to work with the Club when possible has the independence to disagree with it if and when needed.

    *Cue posts telling me I'm talking Charlie rap!*
    Actually you are talking crap proved by the fact that the Trust is part of the Fans' Forum.
    Presumably because it has chosen to be....

    Yes, but then all the groups chose to be members and as new groups come along (the VIPS, Eltham Addicks and the Trust) they can join as well.

    The ST and FF are, or at least should be, complementary. Independence however is common to both and it is slightly insulting to the people like Fanny, Killerjerrylee, Ashfordaddickted or Badger to suggest that their independence is "questionable".
    As you know about these things is (was) the Fans' forum a Club initiative or not?
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    LenGlover said:

    Henry Irving said:

    LenGlover said:

    Henry Irving said:

    LenGlover said:

    thecrazyaddick said:

    Good letter. As an aside - and perhaps deserving of a different thread. But is there a need for two separate bodies in the fans forum and the trust.

    Do they not have the same if not similar mandates? Perhaps it would make good sense from a communication perspective to amalgamate the two.

    I think the distinction between the two is that the Fans' Forum is (or historically has been) a CLUB initiative and therefore of questionable independence.

    The Trust is a FAN'S initiative and whilst wanting to work with the Club when possible has the independence to disagree with it if and when needed.

    *Cue posts telling me I'm talking Charlie rap!*
    Actually you are talking crap proved by the fact that the Trust is part of the Fans' Forum.
    Presumably because it has chosen to be....

    Yes, but then all the groups chose to be members and as new groups come along (the VIPS, Eltham Addicks and the Trust) they can join as well.

    The ST and FF are, or at least should be, complementary. Independence however is common to both and it is slightly insulting to the people like Fanny, Killerjerrylee, Ashfordaddickted or Badger to suggest that their independence is "questionable".
    As you know about these things is (was) the Fans' forum a Club initiative or not?
    Depends how you define "Club"? It was, as you know, my idea and initiative and at that time I had an, soon to end, official role at the Club. So yes and no is the answer.

    Fact is that the FF now exists and works with the Club and is made up of elected representatives from various groups. The Trust was very keen to join and it's good to see that the Trust is now including the Forum more as in this communique and the meeting with Richard Murray.

  • thecrazyaddickthecrazyaddick
    Thanks for the explanation chaps.
  • cafctomcafctom
    The club's communication regarding tonight's game has been brilliant. More of the same will be fine for future fixtures where necessary.
  • lancashire ladlancashire lad
    edited January 2014
    seems the club have agreed to the suggestions, well done FF and Trust and well done CAFC, perhaps this shows a new openness in the management ranks to listen and interact with supporters.
    see OS for details
  • razilrazil
    http://www.castrust.org/2014/01/charlton-support-trust-ff-pitch-proposal/
  • stilladdictedstilladdicted
    Result for the Fans Forum and the Trust. Well done to all the chappessses and chaps involved, and well done to the club as well. Now can we have some strikers please?
  • seriously_redseriously_red
    stilladdicted said:

    Result for the Fans Forum and the Trust. Well done to all the chappessses and chaps involved, and well done to the club as well. Now can we have some strikers please?

    That would be good!

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  • se9addickse9addick
    Top work all, now we just need a postponement to see if it works !
  • danhughes99danhughes99
    Am I missing something here. This would not have helped in the barnsley fiasco anyway as the club didnt feel the game was in doubt. So why does this change that?
  • DRFDRF
    Did you ask the club what their usual comms plan was before teaching them to suck eggs?
  • ForeverAddicktedForeverAddickted
    Trouble is though we can get a Referee coming from any part of the country... I'm guessing they're not fortunate like the players to travel down the night before so if a Ref is travelling from Staffordshire for example it could take them 4-hrs (12noon) to arrive.

    Of course if that is the case you could get the local referee to come in on the Saturday morning at 8am but again it could come down to a matter of opinion and even though he says its playable the actual referee could arrive and say it isnt (especially if bad weather between inspections)

    Also what sort of level is the local referee that comes to judge the pitch the day before the match... i.e. I'm guessing they've gotta be a Football League referee rather than Joe who officiates the Dog and Duck matches on a Sunday... in which case on the day of the match the local FL referee may not be available due to having a game himself.

    I know there are a lot of possibilities, you cant guard against them all and at the end of the day still believe the steps requested in the letter are the right ones
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