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Johnnie Jackson

There seems much discussion at the moment as to the merits of Johnnie Jackson. To me, there is nobody in the current playing squad who has given more towards the cause and continues to do so. However...............it looks as if age is catching up, and he seems to struggle to keep up with play now. I just wondered if it was me, or do others feel he doesn't have a whole game left in him anymore. Don't start me off on the state of the pitch at the Valley being responsible either !
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  • Do you reckon the Valley pitch has anything to do with it LAMH?
  • Stephens and Cousins work too well together to be messed with, if it can be helped. Don't forget that if possible we need strength on the bench as well as in the starting eleven and Jackson has a knack of singlehandedly changing games, even from the bench. If he can't last 90 minutes, it's better to have him on the bench as an option than start him and be tied into substituting him after 70 minutes.
  • edited January 2014
    Can't get to the games live these days so hard for me to comment, but Jacko has never been quick so he should cope okay as he gets older. He has been injured on and off and then suspended this season so has yet to have a good run of games to get properly fit - Yann has recently shown the importance of this and I'm sure the Skipper still has plenty offer once he's match fit.

    What Jacko does bring is priceless goals like today and this is especially important with low scoring strikers like ours. I think for this reason alone we need to try and fit him into the team.

    Stewart goes back to Hull and Harriott is injured so we need to decide what we're going to do about the left side of midfield.

    Not sure Jacko can play there these days so I'd like to see the team that finished today start vs Oxford in a 4-3-3 with Church and Cook playing either side of Yann.
  • I reckon Jackson could play left midfield in a 4-4-2 if we had a dangerous winger on the right. Not dissimilar to the job Pritch/Wilson do when Stewart is playing on the left flank.
  • edited January 2014
    Anymore rain and there won't be an Oxford game this weekend-Can everyone going bring a bucket of sand please.
  • I think Jacko might knock it on the head in May. Move into coaching and also broadcasting. Talksport beckons I suspect
  • Think he will be a huge danger coming on from the bench, I think he will be fine starting the odd game but not regularly anymore.
  • Works well as a sub to get us an extra goal.

    Not sure if he's got the fitness or speed for a full 90.
  • He's been our most consistent goals scorer for years. He must be closing in on 50 goals.
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  • edited January 2014

    He's been our most consistent goals scorer for years. He must be closing in on 50 goals.

    40 according to Wiki in 129 appearances just over 1 in 3 games which some strikers would like to achieve.
  • Keep him on the bench and bring him on 15-20 mins before the end. He has a cool head in front of goal and can still score vital goals for us. Speed is not so important but good positioning is. I can't see him lasting 90 minutes any more and the current mid-field is working well. The recognised strikers seem unable to finish and JJ also contributes with dead ball situations around the box. Could be quite a revelation if played further up the pitch when we are pressing for points at the end of a game.
  • LeaburnAteMyHamster is a great name, and I chuckled at it.

    That's the end of my input.
  • Love Jacko to bits.

    Great signing by Parky
  • the pitch can't be helping his knees!

    Love Jacko to bits.

    Great signing by Parky

    this is why i would've wanted parky to have had a go with some money from these owners. He had repeatedly cobbled together a play off side for basically nothing and had shown at hull that he had a great eye for a player, despite their poor performance under him.

    However i was more than delighted with SCP's appointment and subsequent signings.
  • Kent addick have you forgotten how he spunked £300k on Paul Benson? Not forgetting the lack of usage of JJ Shelvey!!!
  • Kent addick have you forgotten how he spunked £300k on Paul Benson? Not forgetting the lack of usage of JJ Shelvey!!!

    The Pardew/Parkinson era was probably my worst in supporting this club. The run up to Pardew getting sacked, especially the 5-2 defeat at home to Sheff Utd, and the defeat under Parkinson at Northwich Victoria left me in a ball of rage for days.

    PP also bought the likes of Powel Abbott to the club, David Mooney and as Bollox says, Paul Benson. A trio of useless footballers
  • I don't doubt he can last 90 minutes, I just struggle to see how he's going to shift either Cousins or Stephens if we stick with a four-man midfield. Love him though and is quite possibly my favourite captain since Kinsella.
  • Gary Borrowdale, Abbott, McCormack, Francis, Doherty. Just a few of absolute stinkers who PP bought in but is still heralded as some kind of messiah
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  • Scoham said:

    Borrowdale did a decent job for us, he was basically 4th choice left back. Youga, Basey and Jackson were all injured.

    Abbott was a cheap gamble on a player that in the past had scored 20+ at League 1 level.

    McCormack was proven in League 1 and has since with Swindon and now Brentford. Even played centre back for Swindon.

    Francis is now playing in the Championship. Wasn't he Bournemouth's player of the year last season? Proved himself at that level and got several assists along the way.

    Doherty had won promotion with Norwich the previous season. Probably one season too far but can understand why we signed him.

    Benson was nothing but a goalscorer, very limited footballer but still scored around 10 for us. Parky couldn't afford someone like BWP.

    Mooney has more than proven himself in League 1.

    Very happy with Powell and Parky is not "some sort of messiah", just a good manager at League 1 level. Powell would have made questionable signings in League 1 with a similar budget.

    A 20+ goal striker away from automatic promotion, following season a play-off challenging side with a very average squad. Later won promotion and got to a League Cup final with Bradford while in League 2.

    It was right for him to go but he's clearly not the terrible manager some still make him out to be.

    Very good post.
  • edited January 2014
    Scoham said:

    Borrowdale did a decent job for us, he was basically 4th choice left back. Youga, Basey and Jackson were all injured.

    Abbott was a cheap gamble on a player that in the past had scored 20+ at League 1 level.

    McCormack was proven in League 1 and has since with Swindon and now Brentford. Even played centre back for Swindon.

    Francis is now playing in the Championship. Wasn't he Bournemouth's player of the year last season? Proved himself at that level and got several assists along the way.

    Doherty had won promotion with Norwich the previous season. Probably one season too far but can understand why we signed him.

    Benson was nothing but a goalscorer, very limited footballer but still scored around 10 for us. Parky couldn't afford someone like BWP.

    Mooney has more than proven himself in League 1.

    Very happy with Powell and Parky is not "some sort of messiah", just a good manager at League 1 level. Powell would have made questionable signings in League 1 with a similar budget.

    A 20+ goal striker away from automatic promotion, following season a play-off challenging side with a very average squad. Later won promotion and got to a League Cup final with Bradford while in League 2.

    It was right for him to go but he's clearly not the terrible manager some still make him out to be.

    so what you're saying is that Parkys man management meant we didn't get the most out of some of these players and in fact got the worst
  • edited January 2014
    I'm saying they were signings that could help us challenge for the play-offs, which they did.

    He clearly didn't get the best out of players like Francis, Mooney and McCormack.

    Don't think he could have got much more out of Benson or Borrowdale.

    Abbott and Doherty were understandable that didn't work out as hoped.

    If he had a good eye for a player, was a great tactician and man manager he would still be managing in the Championship.

    Powell struggled with his players and that included BWP and a few reasonable loan signings.
  • edited January 2014
    RedChaser said:

    He's been our most consistent goals scorer for years. He must be closing in on 50 goals.

    40 according to Wiki in 129 appearances just over 1 in 3 games which some strikers would like to achieve.
    Those are very good numbers for a player that has at times played in not particularly great teams.
  • yeah i understand what you're saying and i'm saying he was not good enough a manager to be where we're at and i didn't want him in when he came in or out when he was outed !
  • JJ's goals have often been the decisive ones during his time in the side. Some goals have a higher value than others, free-kicks against the massive spring to mind and the equaliser at Ipswich. Agree on strike rate too.
  • JJ's goals have often been the decisive ones during his time in the side. Some goals have a higher value than others, free-kicks against the massive spring to mind and the equaliser at Ipswich. Agree on strike rate too.

    Free Kick at home to Sheffield United as well... Watford goal on New Years Day last season
  • edited January 2014

    JJ's goals have often been the decisive ones during his time in the side. Some goals have a higher value than others, free-kicks against the massive spring to mind and the equaliser at Ipswich. Agree on strike rate too.

    Don't forget the two game changing strikes against Cardiff which helped turn our season around November before last and took mounting pressure off CP. interestingly his goal scoring record was not all that before he came to us, only 19 goals in nearly 200 appearances for other clubs. All credit to him and our management teams.
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  • I reckon Jackson could play left midfield in a 4-4-2 if we had a dangerous winger on the right. Not dissimilar to the job Pritch/Wilson do when Stewart is playing on the left flank.

    Have to disagree. Jackson on the left is a recipe for disaster. He is so dangerously slow that the opposition know they will always be able to bypass him either with a ball past him or simply by running past him. It leaves us dangerously exposed. For me, he has to play in the middle or not at all. I seem to recall SCP saying something similar a while back too but I suspect his hand has been forced on the couple of occasions that he's played Jacko there since then.

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