I accept that your coverage of games iprobably matches up to your claim. Would you concede that your linking of the alleged breakdown of talks to ACV was a mistake, and do you understand the distress it caused Barnie and The Trust who had in good faith tried to help you write your previous exclusive - in- print article on ACV being passed?
Respect to you for coming on here, either way
I have spoken to Barnie and explained the situation to him. I haven't seen any comments on me - I am a reporter, and report facts. If anyone wants to aim comments at me, that is fine, because it is their issue, not mine, as I know I do that job conscientiously and with care.
Barnie and the rest of the Trust were accused by people on here of being responsible for a bid apparently failing. That is a most unpleasant thing to read, regardless of who wrote it.
Link?
A few people like IA, Large and Oakster queried the timing, but I've not seen one post that has made any such accusations.
On the FORUM THAT CANNOT BE NAMED (to paraphrase Harry Potter)
BexleyBoy's comments on the other site were almost two weeks after I asked the same questions on here on the ACV announcement thread. It was a pertinent question then, not an accusation. Looking at digging out the other site, the SLP or anyone is not going to help anyone. Let it lie.
Toby nobody, certainly not me anyway, expects you to reveal your sources and, as far as I can tell, nobody has asked for that and it is a red herring in my opinion.
The issue is the misrepresentation of ACV and the resulting implications drawn from the article.
That is why some are seeking an apology and preferably with the same prominence as the original article rather than a quarter of a column inch tucked away under the athletic support advert on page 17.
Give it a rest, Len. Porter is the sports editor and it's not his call to print an apology, even if one was due (which frankly it isn't; I think even razil accepted a printed apology was not appropriate?)
If you really are that exercised about it, then write to Hannah Walker and/or Peter Edwards, who as editor and MD are the only ones who can take a decision to print an apology and where it should be placed and with what prominence. Absolutely pointless repeatedly berating the sports ed in a public forum like this. It gets us nowhere. You clearly have a hive of bees in your bonnet about this so take your complaint where the power lies to adjudicate upon it.
I've hardly "repeatedly berated" the sports editor!
I made a general comment that retractions should be given equal prominence to original articles higher up the thread, admittedly because of Toby's article, and actually expressed my understanding that he could not reveal his sources whilst trying to articulate the problem some have (had) with his article.
I think you are possibly mistaken in your view that razil does not want a printed apology incidentally:
....."Yes Toby came on here but a proper apology/retraction would be better, because you're article is simply wrong in the way I have laid out."......
Toby nobody, certainly not me anyway, expects you to reveal your sources and, as far as I can tell, nobody has asked for that and it is a red herring in my opinion.
The issue is the misrepresentation of ACV and the resulting implications drawn from the article.
That is why some are seeking an apology and preferably with the same prominence as the original article rather than a quarter of a column inch tucked away under the athletic support advert on page 17.
Give it a rest, Len. Porter is the sports editor and it's not his call to print an apology, even if one was due (which frankly it isn't; I think even razil accepted a printed apology was not appropriate?)
If you really are that exercised about it, then write to Hannah Walker and/or Peter Edwards, who as editor and MD are the only ones who can take a decision to print an apology and where it should be placed and with what prominence. Absolutely pointless repeatedly berating the sports ed in a public forum like this. It gets us nowhere. You clearly have a hive of bees in your bonnet about this so take your complaint where the power lies to adjudicate upon it.
I've hardly "repeatedly berated" the sports editor!
I made a general comment that retractions should be given equal prominence to original articles higher up the thread, admittedly because of Toby's article, and actually expressed my understanding that he could not reveal his sources whilst trying to articulate the problem some have (had) with his article.
I think you are possibly mistaken in your view that razil does not want a printed apology incidentally:
....."Yes Toby came on here but a proper apology/retraction would be better, because you're article is simply wrong in the way I have laid out."......
The story never appeared in print, so in any event a printed apology would be disproportionate.
Toby nobody, certainly not me anyway, expects you to reveal your sources and, as far as I can tell, nobody has asked for that and it is a red herring in my opinion.
The issue is the misrepresentation of ACV and the resulting implications drawn from the article.
That is why some are seeking an apology and preferably with the same prominence as the original article rather than a quarter of a column inch tucked away under the athletic support advert on page 17.
Give it a rest, Len. Porter is the sports editor and it's not his call to print an apology, even if one was due (which frankly it isn't; I think even razil accepted a printed apology was not appropriate?)
If you really are that exercised about it, then write to Hannah Walker and/or Peter Edwards, who as editor and MD are the only ones who can take a decision to print an apology and where it should be placed and with what prominence. Absolutely pointless repeatedly berating the sports ed in a public forum like this. It gets us nowhere. You clearly have a hive of bees in your bonnet about this so take your complaint where the power lies to adjudicate upon it.
I think that it is reasonable to ask the bloke who wrote an article making an accusation that appears wrong to answer some questions. Why would somebody else apologise for what Toby said? You do seem to have a major issue with the need to support Toby against any criticism.
I keep telling myself to stop looking at this thread......... I see there are 100 plus new posts...........I give in and look, surely there must be something new and interesting.........No just more drivel and in fighting!
I keep telling myself to stop looking at this thread......... I see there are 100 plus new posts...........I give in and look, surely there must be something new and interesting.........No just more drivel and in fighting!
Note to self again....Leave this thread alone!
I have to agree with this. You see countless new posts in the hope some billionaire Charlton fan has come out the woodwork and tabled an offer......and then....
I keep telling myself to stop looking at this thread......... I see there are 100 plus new posts...........I give in and look, surely there must be something new and interesting.........No just more drivel and in fighting!
Note to self again....Leave this thread alone!
Actually, the trick is to look at this thread at least 6 times every day like the rest of us saddos. That way you know it is all bollox as it appears and don't get too excited when you see multiple posts.
I keep telling myself to stop looking at this thread......... I see there are 100 plus new posts...........I give in and look, surely there must be something new and interesting.........No just more drivel and in fighting!
Note to self again....Leave this thread alone!
Actually, the trick is to look at this thread at least 6 times every day like the rest of us saddos. That way you know it is all bollox as it appears and don't get too excited when you see multiple posts.
I only now look once a day, my Counsellor advises on this drastic cut back for health reasons.
Ditto. I lok every day when i get back from work hoping the Americans have swung back into the picture, but get swamped by a whole load of 'Razil said', 'Toby said', 'RBWS said' stuff and my hopes sink.
I accept that your coverage of games iprobably matches up to your claim. Would you concede that your linking of the alleged breakdown of talks to ACV was a mistake, and do you understand the distress it caused Barnie and The Trust who had in good faith tried to help you write your previous exclusive - in- print article on ACV being passed?
Respect to you for coming on here, either way
I have spoken to Barnie and explained the situation to him. I haven't seen any comments on me - I am a reporter, and report facts. If anyone wants to aim comments at me, that is fine, because it is their issue, not mine, as I know I do that job conscientiously and with care.
Barnie and the rest of the Trust were accused by people on here of being responsible for a bid apparently failing. That is a most unpleasant thing to read, regardless of who wrote it.
Link?
A few people like IA, Large and Oakster queried the timing, but I've not seen one post that has made any such accusations.
On the FORUM THAT CANNOT BE NAMED (to paraphrase Harry Potter)
BexleyBoy's comments on the other site were almost two weeks after I asked the same questions on here on the ACV announcement thread. It was a pertinent question then, not an accusation. Looking at digging out the other site, the SLP or anyone is not going to help anyone. Let it lie.
You mean he's repeating the stuff without learning anything? Man alive, even Reams is now talking about raising a petition against the Trust and the ACV. You couldn't make it up.
Saw there were 144 posts since I last opened this thread. Opened at page 61. Fast forwarded to here. Sweet Jesus send me to Switzerland for the big long weekend on a one-way ticket now.
I accept that your coverage of games iprobably matches up to your claim. Would you concede that your linking of the alleged breakdown of talks to ACV was a mistake, and do you understand the distress it caused Barnie and The Trust who had in good faith tried to help you write your previous exclusive - in- print article on ACV being passed?
Respect to you for coming on here, either way
I have spoken to Barnie and explained the situation to him. I haven't seen any comments on me - I am a reporter, and report facts. If anyone wants to aim comments at me, that is fine, because it is their issue, not mine, as I know I do that job conscientiously and with care.
Barnie and the rest of the Trust were accused by people on here of being responsible for a bid apparently failing. That is a most unpleasant thing to read, regardless of who wrote it.
Link?
A few people like IA, Large and Oakster queried the timing, but I've not seen one post that has made any such accusations.
On the FORUM THAT CANNOT BE NAMED (to paraphrase Harry Potter)
BexleyBoy's comments on the other site were almost two weeks after I asked the same questions on here on the ACV announcement thread. It was a pertinent question then, not an accusation. Looking at digging out the other site, the SLP or anyone is not going to help anyone. Let it lie.
You mean he's repeating the stuff without learning anything? Man alive, even Reams is now talking about raising a petition against the Trust and the ACV. You couldn't make it up.
I dont know why he hasnt done it already, it's so easy to set up a petition online these days. He could start a "powell out" petition as well.
I've got so bored with this thread that I have taken to envisaging who would likely be type cast to play the following various characters in a situation comedy entitled " Charlton Life" based on the views that they have expressed .Never having met any of the regular punters on here this is a bit of a stab in the dark but here goes :
Prague Addick - (Dame) Derek Jacobi Razil- Ian McShane Incorruptible Addick- Ray Winstone Fanny - Patricia Routledge Len Glover - Jim Broadbent Grandpa- Buster Merryfield Shooters hill guru- Bill Pertwee Reams-Steve mcFadden Airman Brown- Gary Oldman Seth Plum -Peter Sallis Mundell Fleming- John Malcovitch Ooh Ahh Mortimer-Leonard Rossiter Mendonca in Asda- Dennis Waterman Ashley - Clive Owen
Sociology lecturers are swiftly putting together a new degree course, based on the " ** Takeover rumours - Harris withdraws p.51** " thread. With a working title of 'Conspiracy Theory, Mass Media, Community Engagement and Hot Air Thermals', it is thought that the course will take eighteen years to complete.
I've got so bored with this thread that I have taken to envisaging who would likely be type cast to play the following various characters in a situation comedy entitled " Charlton Life" based on the views that they have expressed .Never having met any of the regular punters on here this is a bit of a stab in the dark but here goes :
Prague Addick - (Dame) Derek Jacobi Razil- Ian McShane Incorruptible Addick- Ray Winstone Fanny - Patricia Routledge Len Glover - Jim Broadbent Grandpa- Buster Merryfield Shooters hill guru- Bill Pertwee Reams-Steve mcFadden Airman Brown- Gary Oldman Seth Plum -Peter Sallis Mundell Fleming- John Malcovitch Ooh Ahh Mortimer-Leonard Rossiter Mendonca in Asda- Dennis Waterman Ashley - Clive Owen
I thought by now we would have seen the first the coup d'etat and at least 4 new Trust splinter groups.
The Popular Charlton Supporters Front- for those that (quite) like the club but maintain 100% media silence for fear of upsetting anyone and believe all journalists should be shot on sight. The Real Charlton Supporters Trust- the hardcore conservative founders who wont even tolerate any changes to the catering menu in the East stand without a minimum of three seasons full fans consultation. The O2 Charlton Supporters Trust- those that support the club but will happily sell out to anyone with a few bob at the first opportunity. The Charlton Supporters Revolutionary Guard- exclusively for west stand supporters of a certain age who will fling their tartan blankets in protest at the first sign of trouble.
So, a mate of mine sent me a report last week where his work declined finance for a 'property investment company' because of Charlton Athletic Football Company Ltd's. general risk/losses. I don't know, but is that our current owners or potential buyers? As I said, apparently it's a property investment co. based in the Virgin Islands.
So, a mate of mine sent me a report last week where his work declined finance for a 'property investment company' because of Charlton Athletic Football Company Ltd's. general risk/losses. I don't know, but is that our current owners or potential buyers? As I said, apparently it's a property investment co. based in the Virgin Islands.
Think it means anything?
Interesting but without seeing the report, as you have, it is hard to say.
I've got so bored with this thread that I have taken to envisaging who would likely be type cast to play the following various characters in a situation comedy entitled " Charlton Life" based on the views that they have expressed .Never having met any of the regular punters on here this is a bit of a stab in the dark but here goes :
Prague Addick - (Dame) Derek Jacobi Razil- Ian McShane Incorruptible Addick- Ray Winstone Fanny - Patricia Routledge Len Glover - Jim Broadbent Grandpa- Buster Merryfield Shooters hill guru- Bill Pertwee Reams-Steve mcFadden Airman Brown- Gary Oldman Seth Plum -Peter Sallis Mundell Fleming- John Malcovitch Ooh Ahh Mortimer-Leonard Rossiter Mendonca in Asda- Dennis Waterman Ashley - Clive Owen
Let's hope this takeover happens soon .
Mrs Bucket I am not !
Judi Dench....maybe !
:-)
Our self image is always at variance to that of others ;-)
Comments
I made a general comment that retractions should be given equal prominence to original articles higher up the thread, admittedly because of Toby's article, and actually expressed my understanding that he could not reveal his sources whilst trying to articulate the problem some have (had) with his article.
I think you are possibly mistaken in your view that razil does not want a printed apology incidentally:
....."Yes Toby came on here but a proper apology/retraction would be better, because you're article is simply wrong in the way I have laid out."......
You do seem to have a major issue with the need to support Toby against any criticism.
Note to self again....Leave this thread alone!
(look at this thread that is...)
Prague Addick - (Dame) Derek Jacobi
Razil- Ian McShane
Incorruptible Addick- Ray Winstone
Fanny - Patricia Routledge
Len Glover - Jim Broadbent
Grandpa- Buster Merryfield
Shooters hill guru- Bill Pertwee
Reams-Steve mcFadden
Airman Brown- Gary Oldman
Seth Plum -Peter Sallis
Mundell Fleming- John Malcovitch
Ooh Ahh Mortimer-Leonard Rossiter
Mendonca in Asda- Dennis Waterman
Ashley - Clive Owen
Let's hope this takeover happens soon .
Little green line with occasional 'beep'
Turn off the machine.
RIP
Judi Dench....maybe !
:-)
I thought by now we would have seen the first the coup d'etat and at least 4 new Trust splinter groups.
The Popular Charlton Supporters Front- for those that (quite) like the club but maintain 100% media silence for fear of upsetting anyone and believe all journalists should be shot on sight.
The Real Charlton Supporters Trust- the hardcore conservative founders who wont even tolerate any changes to the catering menu in the East stand without a minimum of three seasons full fans consultation.
The O2 Charlton Supporters Trust- those that support the club but will happily sell out to anyone with a few bob at the first opportunity.
The Charlton Supporters Revolutionary Guard- exclusively for west stand supporters of a certain age who will fling their tartan blankets in protest at the first sign of trouble.
Fuck off! 'Charlton People's Front'.
We're the People's Front of Charlton'
Think it means anything?