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England v Germany

Will England put in a good performance or will Germanys ressie's just highlight how far behind the worlds top teams we are.

Should be a better game than friday, and i think a score draw is on the cards.
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    even with "better" players returning for England, I do wonder whether the German's technical ability, physical strength and sheer hard work (reserves or not) will be too much for us to handle.

    can't see us winning and if they score early think we'll be in for a hard night.

    1-3.
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    Psychological blow if a strong England team get's beaten by a German reserve team, especially at home.
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    Im just pissed off Im a Celeb isnt on tonight cos of it!
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    Curb_It said:

    Im just pleased Im a Celeb isnt on tonight cos of it!

    That's better... :-D
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    Should be a positive result looking at the sides but you have to wonder what hold cleverly has on the manager cos he really is pants.
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    England 2 v Germany 1 .. and I agree with Beds .. Cleverly is not a clever (lol) selection .. would hope this is a last ditch for him .. another no good show and he won't be selected for Brazil .. I feel that the same goes for Smalling, though he is gradually improving .. the right back issue needs sorting, Clyne would have been a good choice (and YES I know he is ex palace .. so what?)
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    Boring Draw or close England win and a false dawn
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    edited November 2013
    Both teams giving some border line players one last chance to stake a claim for the final squad selection so not too fussed about the result but I'm mildly confident we can take the old enemy tonight C'mon England.
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    edited November 2013
    Don't think Smalling is the answer at CB; despite his aberration on Friday I reckon Cahill & Jagielka are Roy's preferred pairing.
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    edited November 2013
    A bit of ex-player interest...

    Carl Jenkinson has scored tonight for the U21s against erm San Marino
    Flourent Roumba is playing for Burkina Faso as they attempt to qualify against an Algerian side with Madjid Bougherra in the side

    EDIT: Bougherra who has just scored for Algeria...
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    u21s are scoring roughly every 8 mins...64 mins gone.
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    Can't see England getting anything out of the game 0-3 / 1-3 / 1-4.
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    I always support and cheer my country on no matter what sport it is, but I am very concerned about tonight
    everyone remembers to 5-1 in Munich I think it could be reversed tonight
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    Very much a second string Germany side tonight so shouldnt be as tough
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    edited November 2013

    I always support and cheer my country on no matter what sport it is, but I am very concerned about tonight
    everyone remembers to 5-1 in Munich I think it could be reversed tonight

    Not everyone! 4-2 after extra time July 1966 is at the forefront of my mind :0)
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    England XI to face Germany: Hart, Walker, Smalling, Jagielka, Cole, Gerrard (capt), Cleverley, Townsend, Rooney, Lallana and Sturridge

    Germany XI: Weidenfeller, Westermann, Mertesacker, Boateng, Schmelzer, Lars Bender, Sven Bender, Götze, Kroos, Reus, Kruse

    2 Benders starting for the Germans
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    Very much a second string Germany side tonight so shouldnt be as tough

    Mertesacker,Boateng,Schmelzer,Gotze,Kroos,Reus and Kruse sounds pretty strong to me
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    No under 21 scores please :D

    Score draw tonight.
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    God help us!
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    5-1 in Munich...forgot about that. That was a competitive game can't compare it to friendlies.

    What we want to do here is just look solid and strong. Make it a tough game for the Germans try and knock their confidence.

    Don't conceed a goal...in my eyes that's a victory in a friendly ...a friendly that still means nout rivalry or not. Relax is what I would say.

    An entertaining night would be nice though, but no need save it for Brazil.
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    No Neuer, Lahm, Hummels, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Ozil, Gomez or Podolski, and they still read stronger than us.
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    Love Michael Ballack on ITV... When asked if we're stupid for thinking we can win a competition in a few years he laughed and said "Dont be negative" its something so small but its probably the huge thing we're missing.

    He also went on to say that England cant be like Germany or other nations because its changing so much, i.e. a few years ago it was France and Bloemfontein, then Spain and tika taka and now the German way

    We're so obsessed with trying to copy the winners that we change our tune as to who we should imitate after every World Cup (2014... Will it be Brazil we should be copying??) when surely thats doing no more than confusing everyone.

    I watched the U21s the other night against Finland (will wait for the "its only Finland remarks") yet they passed the ball extremely well and if thats how they're doing it should be done that way in the main squad so there is a fluid transition.

    Was also a bloody joke how the team was booed off against Chile (and how everyone was saying the result proves we're not good enough) well every time a friendly comes up we demand that the Manager experiments, that he should try Youth... Why the hell should he use Youth when the first time he does it, he's critised for it!!!

    Sorry rant over lol!
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    "Another worrying statistic from Opta Joe: 3 - Germany have scored at least three goals in nine of their last 10 internationals".
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    Macronate said:

    "Another worrying statistic from Opta Joe: 3 - Germany have scored at least three goals in nine of their last 10 internationals".

    Including a 4-3 defeat to the USA...
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    Not a fan of Smalling at all.
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    We should copy the German way internationally AND domestically. Cheap to watch, full stadia, awesome atmospheres, standing room.
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    Swisdom said:

    We should copy the German way internationally AND domestically. Cheap to watch, full stadia, awesome atmospheres, standing room.

    Should definitely copy the German way domestically
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    Actually think this game is more important then previously. A solid 2-0 win against this lot would do the world of good for our team psychologically! Looking lively c'mon England!
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    This game is obviously about whether individuals such as Lallana, Cleverly & Smalling are good enough for the 23. Both teams 4-4-1-1.
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    Curb_It said:

    Im just pissed off Im a Celeb isnt on tonight cos of it!

    I am pissed off that I have to record Masterchef.
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