What a strange idea - how to complicate a simple message...
Somehow 'football for a sixer' doesn't have quite the same ring...why not do the charity collection bit on the day and let S/T holders join in too?
No reason you can't do both and there probably will be a collection too. There could also be an argument that some people may be more willing to attend if there is a charity donation, although it's not one I'd make.
Why not make it 4 quid and a quid to charity if we're in a charitable mood..
Bearing in mind that there is VAT on tickets - and I wouldn't know how this affects the extra £1 - I doubt if the club would want to reduce its income from £4.17 per head to, presumably, £3.17 by taking the hit - that's 24 per cent of receipts.
I think if they had said upfront that tickets were £6 and £1 would be donated to charity no one would have a problem. I am sure some bright spark would be able to work round the "Football For A Fiver" tag.
And the donations as with all those bucket collections don't get gift aided so more money goes missing towards the charities Although I understand that some dough to these charities would only get to them through the buckets
It's Soccer for a Sixer (ugh!) and the Club says it is giving a quid of it to charity.That's how it works and if there is a tax relief the club can claim it. But given the compulsory nature of the quid I think you may find the whole £6 is vatable. At th end of the day the ticket price is six quid!
Maybe there is a VAT expert on here who thinks otherwise?
Whatever, I think we can agree that this is an odd thing to do.
I really can't believe people are complaining about paying £1 to charity whilst getting a ticket for football for only £5. A little perspective people!
I really can't believe people are complaining about paying £1 to charity whilst getting a ticket for football for only £5. A little perspective people!
I do think the way it has been presented is the problem.
I really can't believe people are complaining about paying £1 to charity whilst getting a ticket for football for only £5. A little perspective people!
Doesn't bother me, I've got a season ticket.
And it's not really a ticket for a fiver is it? You can't get a ticket for £5 unless you pay to the charity. Just seems messy messaging.
I really can't believe people are complaining about paying £1 to charity whilst getting a ticket for football for only £5. A little perspective people!
It's Soccer for a Sixer (ugh!) and the Club says it is giving a quid of it to charity.That's how it works and if there is a tax relief the club can claim it. But given the compulsory nature of the quid I think you may find the whole £6 is vatable. At th end of the day the ticket price is six quid!
Maybe there is a VAT expert on here who thinks otherwise?
Whatever, I think we can agree that this is an odd thing to do.
You're right on the VAT point - if you have to pay £6 to get in then VAT is due on that £6. The fact that the club is then donating something to charity makes no difference to the VAT that's due.
However, I note that in relation to the extra £1 charge the club have actually said
"With this in mind, we have added a £1 charge to all tickets, the proceeds from which will go directly to charity".
My guess is that what will actually happen is that the charity will actually only get 83p of that pound, with the other "extra" 17p going into George Osbourne's coffers.
Overall the £6 entrance fee will likely be divied up as
£4.17 - cafc £1.00 - HMRC £0.83p - charity
so the club makes the same money as it would have done offering tickets for a fiver with no charity "donation".
By the time the various charities have put the 83p through their various admin processes about 50p of the pound might filter it's way through to be spent for a good cause. That's just the way it is.
For the record, I still think it's a great offer and represents very good value, it's just not the most efficient way of getting money to charitable causes.
It's Soccer for a Sixer (ugh!) and the Club says it is giving a quid of it to charity.That's how it works and if there is a tax relief the club can claim it. But given the compulsory nature of the quid I think you may find the whole £6 is vatable. At th end of the day the ticket price is six quid!
Maybe there is a VAT expert on here who thinks otherwise?
Whatever, I think we can agree that this is an odd thing to do.
You're right on the VAT point - if you have to pay £6 to get in then VAT is due on that £6. The fact that the club is then donating something to charity makes no difference to the VAT that's due.
However, I note that in relation to the extra £1 charge the club have actually said
"With this in mind, we have added a £1 charge to all tickets, the proceeds from which will go directly to charity".
My guess is that what will actually happen is that the charity will actually only get 83p of that pound, with the other "extra" 17p going into George Osbourne's coffers.
Overall the £6 entrance fee will likely be divied up as
£4.17 - cafc £1.00 - HMRC £0.83p - charity
so the club makes the same money as it would have done offering tickets for a fiver with no charity "donation".
By the time the various charities have put the 83p through their various admin processes about 50p of the pound might filter it's way through to be spent for a good cause. That's just the way it is.
For the record, I still think it's a great offer and represents very good value, it's just not the most efficient way of getting money to charitable causes.
Charitable donations are tax deductible as well, so CAFC will benefit a bit from that too
It's Soccer for a Sixer (ugh!) and the Club says it is giving a quid of it to charity.That's how it works and if there is a tax relief the club can claim it. But given the compulsory nature of the quid I think you may find the whole £6 is vatable. At th end of the day the ticket price is six quid!
Maybe there is a VAT expert on here who thinks otherwise?
Whatever, I think we can agree that this is an odd thing to do.
You're right on the VAT point - if you have to pay £6 to get in then VAT is due on that £6. The fact that the club is then donating something to charity makes no difference to the VAT that's due.
However, I note that in relation to the extra £1 charge the club have actually said
"With this in mind, we have added a £1 charge to all tickets, the proceeds from which will go directly to charity".
My guess is that what will actually happen is that the charity will actually only get 83p of that pound, with the other "extra" 17p going into George Osbourne's coffers.
Overall the £6 entrance fee will likely be divied up as
£4.17 - cafc £1.00 - HMRC £0.83p - charity
so the club makes the same money as it would have done offering tickets for a fiver with no charity "donation".
By the time the various charities have put the 83p through their various admin processes about 50p of the pound might filter it's way through to be spent for a good cause. That's just the way it is.
For the record, I still think it's a great offer and represents very good value, it's just not the most efficient way of getting money to charitable causes.
Charitable donations are tax deductible as well, so CAFC will benefit a bit from that too
Footy to a Champ game for £6 is a bargain, esp when one of those teams is tipped for Promotion and has a couple of genuine PL players (Wigan not bad either! lol).
Well done to the club again and I think the money to charity is a great idea too so I could not care less about 'weird, messy messaging'.
Totally agree - best bargain you'd get all season in the league probably.
My profession means I look at messaging quite closely. #FootballForAFiver is a great local brand that has been created over the years, think its losing some of that by bolting the quid on and retainer the "Fiver". It's simply not true.
We'll get a great crowd though, charities will benefit and hopefully well convert a few fans. Positives outweigh any negatives for sure.
It's Soccer for a Sixer (ugh!) and the Club says it is giving a quid of it to charity.That's how it works and if there is a tax relief the club can claim it. But given the compulsory nature of the quid I think you may find the whole £6 is vatable. At th end of the day the ticket price is six quid!
Maybe there is a VAT expert on here who thinks otherwise?
Whatever, I think we can agree that this is an odd thing to do.
You're right on the VAT point - if you have to pay £6 to get in then VAT is due on that £6. The fact that the club is then donating something to charity makes no difference to the VAT that's due.
However, I note that in relation to the extra £1 charge the club have actually said
"With this in mind, we have added a £1 charge to all tickets, the proceeds from which will go directly to charity".
My guess is that what will actually happen is that the charity will actually only get 83p of that pound, with the other "extra" 17p going into George Osbourne's coffers.
Overall the £6 entrance fee will likely be divied up as
£4.17 - cafc £1.00 - HMRC £0.83p - charity
so the club makes the same money as it would have done offering tickets for a fiver with no charity "donation".
By the time the various charities have put the 83p through their various admin processes about 50p of the pound might filter it's way through to be spent for a good cause. That's just the way it is.
For the record, I still think it's a great offer and represents very good value, it's just not the most efficient way of getting money to charitable causes.
Charitable donations are tax deductible as well, so CAFC will benefit a bit from that too
I could understand people being a bit annoyed if the compulsary donation was for some weird, two bob charity like helping stray cats or something, but its to help children.
No complaints here and £6 is still a right bargain.
The Club signed up to Capital & Help A London Child, but did say they would continue to support their local charities. I hope that means Demelza will still benefit, maybe more so given the increased exposure that Capital will be able to bring.
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Although I understand that some dough to these charities would only get to them through the buckets
Maybe there is a VAT expert on here who thinks otherwise?
Whatever, I think we can agree that this is an odd thing to do.
And it's not really a ticket for a fiver is it? You can't get a ticket for £5 unless you pay to the charity. Just seems messy messaging.
However, I note that in relation to the extra £1 charge the club have actually said
"With this in mind, we have added a £1 charge to all tickets, the proceeds from which will go directly to charity".
My guess is that what will actually happen is that the charity will actually only get 83p of that pound, with the other "extra" 17p going into George Osbourne's coffers.
Overall the £6 entrance fee will likely be divied up as
£4.17 - cafc
£1.00 - HMRC
£0.83p - charity
so the club makes the same money as it would have done offering tickets for a fiver with no charity "donation".
By the time the various charities have put the 83p through their various admin processes about 50p of the pound might filter it's way through to be spent for a good cause. That's just the way it is.
For the record, I still think it's a great offer and represents very good value, it's just not the most efficient way of getting money to charitable causes.
Well done to the club again and I think the money to charity is a great idea too so I could not care less about 'weird, messy messaging'.
My profession means I look at messaging quite closely. #FootballForAFiver is a great local brand that has been created over the years, think its losing some of that by bolting the quid on and retainer the "Fiver". It's simply not true.
We'll get a great crowd though, charities will benefit and hopefully well convert a few fans. Positives outweigh any negatives for sure.
Good to see some tourists at the Valley again.
"Which team is Chelsea Daddy?"
Lets hope they bring a picnic and don't all join the pre-match burger queue...
No complaints here and £6 is still a right bargain.
I'm bringing some Indian IT specialists who've never been to a game before. So if anyone's got a slow Laptop..........