when a Charlton player (who shall remain nameless) missed a glorious chance for us a few seasons back, I did hear the bloke behind me shout:
"Man up you handicapped, pikey knob jockey. You're gay you poof, you play like a girl and you dress like a tranny. Now do the decent thing you half-caste wog and go back to your raghead neighbourhood you spaz. I never want to see you play in a red shirt again. My coloured, dwarf lezzer of a mum could do better than you and she's a cripple. Stop crying and don't be a woman you fairy rent-boy.
I'm going home now but intend to stop on the the way at a dyke for a fag so you can stop looking at me like that you lady-boy queen."
Recently heard an older supporter shout to the referee's assistant at a bad decision (in quite a posh accent) - 'what's the matter lino? got the sun in your eyes?' which I found quite refreshing in a way
The problem with this country is the ones that are offended the most are the tree hugging liberals who have nothing better to do. The people they claim to represent do not make half as much fuss.
Perhaps the problem is people who don't care what others think or who don't have the wit to say something that others don't find insulting.
If you know a word you use is offensive to a significant number of people why use it? And if you do why pretend you're surprised at the reaction. The brilliant thing about the English language is that there are many many words to use without having to use racist or homophobic or sexist ones.
I do agree that man up is pretty inoffensive though.
If you know a word you use is offensive to a significant number of people why use it? And if you do why pretend you're surprised at the reaction. The brilliant thing about the English language is that there are many many words to use without having to use racist or homophobic or sexist ones.
I do agree that man up is pretty inoffensive though.
When I played football, many moons ago, man up and man on had entirely different connotations. As did the word tranny.
Yes I am serious, none of the words offend me now nor would they offend me if I had mixed race parents, black skin, was four foot tall or walked on crutches. As one of the posters above said he has a friend who is a cripple (Oooo sorry) and he has no problem with being called one.
The problem with this country is the ones that are offended the most are the tree hugging liberals who have nothing better to do. The people they claim to represent do not make half as much fuss.
I'm mixed race. And while I wouldn't be "offended" if you called me half-caste (i.e. half-pure), I would think you were a complete knob.
If you know a word you use is offensive to a significant number of people why use it? And if you do why pretend you're surprised at the reaction. The brilliant thing about the English language is that there are many many words to use without having to use racist or homophobic or sexist ones.
I do agree that man up is pretty inoffensive though.
When I played football, many moons ago, man up and man on had entirely different connotations. As did the word tranny.
If you know a word you use is offensive to a significant number of people why use it? And if you do why pretend you're surprised at the reaction. The brilliant thing about the English language is that there are many many words to use without having to use racist or homophobic or sexist ones.
I do agree that man up is pretty inoffensive though.
When I played football, many moons ago, man up and man on had entirely different connotations. As did the word tranny.
Someone used the derogatory term "munter" on CL a few weeks ago. I haven't got a clue what it means, but it sounds bloody good and I'm going to be using it all the time from now on.
Yes I am serious, none of the words offend me now nor would they offend me if I had mixed race parents, black skin, was four foot tall or walked on crutches. As one of the posters above said he has a friend who is a cripple (Oooo sorry) and he has no problem with being called one.
The problem with this country is the ones that are offended the most are the tree hugging liberals who have nothing better to do. The people they claim to represent do not make half as much fuss.
I'm mixed race. And while I wouldn't be "offended" if you called me half-caste (i.e. half-pure), I would think you were a complete knob.
It's strange Jints. I've always felt it is difficult with different generations having different upbringings and levels of acceptability in terms of language.
Yet I'm 37, not what I would class as the 'older generation', but only picked up in the last couple of years that 'coloured' and 'half caste' are not viewed as acceptable. Ibwas certainly never aware of that growing up.
There is a huge distinction between descriptive, derogatory and insulting. I would only ever use / think in the descriptive sense, and despite picking up that they are not seen as I thought they were, I still think in that way.
It's strange Jints. I've always felt it is difficult with different generations having different upbringings and levels of acceptability in terms of language.
Yet I'm 37, not what I would class as the 'older generation', but only picked up in the last couple of years that 'coloured' and 'half caste' are not viewed as acceptable. Ibwas certainly never aware of that growing up.
There is a huge distinction between descriptive, derogatory and insulting. I would only ever use / think in the descriptive sense, and despite picking up that they are not seen as I thought they were, I still think in that way.
Spot on AFKA, I would never dream of walking up to jints and saying "are you a half caste mate" however if I was describing him to a mate who could not place him I would say something along the lines of "you know he is the half caste fella who drinks in the...."
No offence meant and I would like to think no offence taken. I have a very close friend who has been left crippled following a motor bike accident, he says himself he is a cripple, nothing wrong with the word at all.
I am not going to discuss midgets with you though :-)
I'm in my 40s AFKA. When I was a kid, half-caste was used all the time and it wasn't regarded as derogatory at all. It's about context really. If someone asked me if I was a half-caste, I'd cut him some slack if it was obvious he just didn't know that it's an archaic term these days.
It's not really a big deal (to me, at least). It's just about having the social intelligence to be aware of what you are saying and who you are saying it to.
I'm in my mid fifties and when I was growing up my parents always referred to black people as 'coloured' - it was considered a polite term then. My dad still refers to them as coloured and doesn't think he's doing anything wrong.
I'm in my mid fifties and when I was growing up my parents always referred to black people as 'coloured' - it was considered a polite term then. My dad still refers to them as coloured and doesn't think he's doing anything wrong.
Your dad is not doing anything wrong is he, that is how he see's it?
Whilst I have become aware in the last 5 years or so, that many people take offence to terms such as coloured or half caste. I'm also aware that some do not.
How are the general public meant to know "the descriptive rules" have changed & when & where are these changes announced ? (Ok slightly in jest, but also serious).
Whilst I have become aware in the last 5 years or so, that many people take offence to terms such as coloured or half caste. I'm also aware that some do not.
How are the general public meant to know "the descriptive rules" have changed & when & where are these changes announced ? (Ok slightly in jest, but also serious).
Whilst I have become aware in the last 5 years or so, that many people take offence to terms such as coloured or half caste. I'm also aware that some do not.
How are the general public meant to know "the descriptive rules" have changed & when & where are these changes announced ? (Ok slightly in jest, but also serious).
Personally I cannot see anything wrong with words such as Half Caste, Coloured, Midget, Cripple or Handicapped and anyone that is offended with the term "man up" needs to take a serious look at themselves.
Yet another strike at the way we live by the PC brigade.
Are you serious? Or are you some kind of forum algorithm designed to create arguments and increase web traffic?
Yet another strike? At what point in your daily life are you forced to suffer by a imaginary collection of people?
Yes I am serious, none of the words offend me now nor would they offend me if I had mixed race parents, black skin, was four foot tall or walked on crutches. As one of the posters above said he has a friend who is a cripple (Oooo sorry) and he has no problem with being called one.
The problem with this country is the ones that are offended the most are the tree hugging liberals who have nothing better to do. The people they claim to represent do not make half as much fuss.
Algorithm then. A human couldn't possibly be this stupid.
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"Man up you handicapped, pikey knob jockey. You're gay you poof, you play like a girl and you dress like a tranny. Now do the decent thing you half-caste wog and go back to your raghead neighbourhood you spaz. I never want to see you play in a red shirt again. My coloured, dwarf lezzer of a mum could do better than you and she's a cripple. Stop crying and don't be a woman you fairy rent-boy.
I'm going home now but intend to stop on the the way at a dyke for a fag so you can stop looking at me like that you lady-boy queen."
at least I think that's what he said.
I do agree that man up is pretty inoffensive though.
Man up!
Yet I'm 37, not what I would class as the 'older generation', but only picked up in the last couple of years that 'coloured' and 'half caste' are not viewed as acceptable. Ibwas certainly never aware of that growing up.
There is a huge distinction between descriptive, derogatory and insulting. I would only ever use / think in the descriptive sense, and despite picking up that they are not seen as I thought they were, I still think in that way.
It's strange Jints. I've always felt it is difficult with different generations having different upbringings and levels of acceptability in terms of language.
Yet I'm 37, not what I would class as the 'older generation', but only picked up in the last couple of years that 'coloured' and 'half caste' are not viewed as acceptable. Ibwas certainly never aware of that growing up.
There is a huge distinction between descriptive, derogatory and insulting. I would only ever use / think in the descriptive sense, and despite picking up that they are not seen as I thought they were, I still think in that way.
Spot on AFKA, I would never dream of walking up to jints and saying "are you a half caste mate" however if I was describing him to a mate who could not place him I would say something along the lines of "you know he is the half caste fella who drinks in the...."
No offence meant and I would like to think no offence taken. I have a very close friend who has been left crippled following a motor bike accident, he says himself he is a cripple, nothing wrong with the word at all.
I am not going to discuss midgets with you though :-)
It's not really a big deal (to me, at least). It's just about having the social intelligence to be aware of what you are saying and who you are saying it to.
How are the general public meant to know "the descriptive rules" have changed & when & where are these changes announced ? (Ok slightly in jest, but also serious).