id gladly buy a shirt with the cafc and help for heroes logo may even be a good thing if LBG got involved !
No offence, really don't like it when things like this turn into a football thing (ie putting club links with poppy badges etc).
Stuff like this should be above football imo.
Seconded.
So your against the Kick it out campaign then?
Feel very honoured that you picked out me and not AFKA or SE9addick. In addition thank you for your assumptions...they make such great reading.
The question was to you and AFK, SE9 seems pretty much in tune with the thrust of the thread so I have no idea why I would want to "pick him out".
The question is unanswered but to put your mind at ease I have no assumptions, I just wanted to see why it is you feel this does not deserve the clubs involvement and that cause does. I was simply trying to create a consensus not have an argument.
Edit, just to add the Jimmy Mizzen case to the question, this seemed a good cause for the club to be involved with, I don't recall anyone objecting.
I read it as Maybe baby, AFKA and SE9Addick agreeing that putting football club badges on, for example, HFH shirts isn't appropriate, not that supporting HFH is wrong or as you implied that the Club should not be involved.
I read it as causes such as the RBL Poppy should be above and separate from mere football loyalties. The Poppy is an international symbol for everyone.
Nothing to do with Kick it Out (where players wear a t-shirt over kits while warming up not a badge on the kit anyway) or Street Violence Ruins Lives which is a Charlton Athletic Community Trust initiative anyway.
I read it as Maybe baby, AFKA and SE9Addick agreeing that putting football club badges on, for example, HFH shirts isn't appropriate, not that supporting HFH is wrong or as you implied that the Club should not be involved.
I read it as causes such as the RBL Poppy should be above and separate from mere football loyalties. The Poppy is an international symbol for everyone.
Nothing to do with Kick it Out (where players wear a t-shirt over kits while warming up not a badge on the kit anyway) or Street Violence Ruins Lives which is a Charlton Athletic Community Trust initiative anyway.
It seems I've misunderstood then, your objection is to the use of the club badge on merchandise not the clubs involvement as a community group?
To be honest I am disgusted that a charity/cause like Help for Heroes even has to exist.
As far as I am concerned anyone injured in service of their country should not have to want or need for anything for the rest of their life, the government should look after them right through everything from medical care to job finding.
The fact that some of these people give everything for their country and then get left on the scrapheap is disgraceful.
Well said, Ormiston. By all accounts the hardships suffered by some ex-Forces men and women are a disgrace to a civilised society. The very poor standard of housing on some military bases in the UK came to light a year or so ago and I hope improvements have been made on that score.
To be honest I am disgusted that a charity/cause like Help for Heroes even has to exist.
As far as I am concerned anyone injured in service of their country should not have to want or need for anything for the rest of their life, the government should look after them right through everything from medical care to job finding.
The fact that some of these people give everything for their country and then get left on the scrapheap is disgraceful.
Spot on. Scum like Abu Hamza and Qatada get council houses and tens of thousands in taxpayers money, poor soldiers who put their lives at risk, get fck all.
and this is the 'bizarre' thing. They hate us, they hate Western civilisation, hate everything we stand for. BUT they want to live here, take our benefits etc and then when we want to extradite them back to Jordan or wherever they cite their Human Rights and fight tooth and nail to stay here in doing so spend millions in Legal Aid paid by us to do so, so that ultimately they remain living in our country whilst still preaching their hatred against us. Are we nuts?
I share your exasperation at this deeply unjust situation, LargeAddick. I'm afraid it's a most unfortunate downside to having a generally free and open society. But I don't see why we can't stiffen our stance - Sweden, a famously liberal society, has a restrictive immigration policy implemented in accord with widespread wishes to protect the national identity.
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They are part of our community ---end of.
The question is unanswered but to put your mind at ease I have no assumptions, I just wanted to see why it is you feel this does not deserve the clubs involvement and that cause does. I was simply trying to create a consensus not have an argument.
Edit, just to add the Jimmy Mizzen case to the question, this seemed a good cause for the club to be involved with, I don't recall anyone objecting.
http://www.castrust.org/2013/05/addicks-fans-calling-for-woolwich-fundraiser/
I read it as causes such as the RBL Poppy should be above and separate from mere football loyalties. The Poppy is an international symbol for everyone.
Nothing to do with Kick it Out (where players wear a t-shirt over kits while warming up not a badge on the kit anyway) or Street Violence Ruins Lives which is a Charlton Athletic Community Trust initiative anyway.
Happy to support RBL, HFH or any number of other charties and happy for the Club to support the same as in fact they already do.
And I am proud of all the work the FC and CT do in and with the community. Long may it continue