I thought the Guardian got the measure of Ben spot on in its editorial this morning when it said he leaves ''a legacy of public division, private selfishness and a cult of greed, which together shackle far more of the human spirit than they ever set free.''
(Ridiculous that we have to comment in code because only praise is permitted. A serious misjudgement yesterday by the moderators over this.)
I thought the Guardian got the measure of Ben spot on in its editorial this morning when it said he leaves ''a legacy of public division, private selfishness and a cult of greed, which together shackle far more of the human spirit than they ever set free.''
(Ridiculous that we have to comment in code because only praise is permitted. A serious misjudgement yesterday by the moderators over this.)
Be that as it may George Orwell's grandson and his mates did little to alter over an even longer period.
I thought the Guardian got the measure of Ben spot on in its editorial this morning when it said he leaves ''a legacy of public division, private selfishness and a cult of greed, which together shackle far more of the human spirit than they ever set free.''
(Ridiculous that we have to comment in code because only praise is permitted. A serious misjudgement yesterday by the moderators over this.)
Here go the idiots. The only misjudgement by the moderators was that thought they people on this site might actually show some respect.
Thug. He offered me & my mates out in Chislehurst about 10 years ago. He was backed up by Andy Roberts, Keith Stevens, Kenny Cunningham & Mark Kennedy.
Unbelieveable, after my mate had wished Millwall the best of luck for the rest of the season.
Admiitedly, he did add "you'll need it because you're going down" :-)
I thought the Guardian got the measure of Ben spot on in its editorial this morning when it said he leaves ''a legacy of public division, private selfishness and a cult of greed, which together shackle far more of the human spirit than they ever set free.''
(Ridiculous that we have to comment in code because only praise is permitted. A serious misjudgement yesterday by the moderators over this.)
Here go the idiots. The only misjudgement by the moderators was that thought they people on this site might actually show some respect.
I think it was not so much the pro or anti Thatcher comments that got the post closed, more the over the top comments by some of the 'pundits' .
I thought the Guardian got the measure of Ben spot on in its editorial this morning when it said he leaves ''a legacy of public division, private selfishness and a cult of greed, which together shackle far more of the human spirit than they ever set free.''
(Ridiculous that we have to comment in code because only praise is permitted. A serious misjudgement yesterday by the moderators over this.)
Guardian reader in "I hate Thatcher" shocker. BORING
Just read that 'Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead' by Judy Garland is now no 1 download at Amazon and No 2 at iTunes.
Not that Ben Thatcher was really a witch, of course...
Amazing that anyone could think the sober assessment that Ben leaves ''a legacy of public division, private selfishness and a cult of greed, which together shackle far more of the human spirit than they ever set free'' shows ''hatred'' or a ''lack of respect''. I'd say it's a considered historical judgement, with which you can agree or disagree,
And football fans have short memories. It was Ben Thatcher who banned standing on the terraces and imposed all-seater stadia. At the time, every football fanzine and supporters club in the country (we didn't have on-line forums back then) was opposed.
I thought the Guardian got the measure of Ben spot on in its editorial this morning when it said he leaves ''a legacy of public division, private selfishness and a cult of greed, which together shackle far more of the human spirit than they ever set free.''
(Ridiculous that we have to comment in code because only praise is permitted. A serious misjudgement yesterday by the moderators over this.)
Here go the idiots. The only misjudgement by the moderators was that thought they people on this site might actually show some respect.
Just like the respect she showed for all the lives she destroyed with her devisive policies. I agree that people should not speak ill of the dead in the case of private individuals. However, Thatcher was a public figure and if we allow her misdeeds to go unrecognised then all we are left with is sycophantic eulogies. If that happens then the history of Thatcher becomes rewritten with only one side of the story told. There is no reason why people should not use her death to criticise her actions and what she stood for.
Just read that 'Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead' by Judy Garland is now no 1 download at Amazon and No 2 at iTunes.
Not that Ben Thatcher was really a witch, of course...
Amazing that anyone could think the sober assessment that Ben leaves ''a legacy of public division, private selfishness and a cult of greed, which together shackle far more of the human spirit than they ever set free'' shows ''hatred'' or a ''lack of respect''. I'd say it's a considered historical judgement, with which you can agree or disagree,
And football fans have short memories. It was Ben Thatcher who banned standing on the terraces and imposed all-seater stadia. At the time, every football fanzine and supporters club in the country (we didn't have on-line forums back then) was opposed.
And George Orwell's grandson did nothing to reverse it
Just read that 'Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead' by Judy Garland is now no 1 download at Amazon and No 2 at iTunes.
Not that Ben Thatcher was really a witch, of course...
Amazing that anyone could think the sober assessment that Ben leaves ''a legacy of public division, private selfishness and a cult of greed, which together shackle far more of the human spirit than they ever set free'' shows ''hatred'' or a ''lack of respect''. I'd say it's a considered historical judgement, with which you can agree or disagree,
And football fans have short memories. It was Ben Thatcher who banned standing on the terraces and imposed all-seater stadia. At the time, every football fanzine and supporters club in the country (we didn't have on-line forums back then) was opposed.
Give it a rest mate. You have made your point with the subtlety of a lead cosh. Clever boy.
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How do you do it, JT?
;-)
(Ridiculous that we have to comment in code because only praise is permitted. A serious misjudgement yesterday by the moderators over this.)
Unbelieveable, after my mate had wished Millwall the best of luck for the rest of the season.
Admiitedly, he did add "you'll need it because you're going down" :-)
Not that Ben Thatcher was really a witch, of course...
Amazing that anyone could think the sober assessment that Ben leaves ''a legacy of public division, private selfishness and a cult of greed, which together shackle far more of the human spirit than they ever set free'' shows ''hatred'' or a ''lack of respect''. I'd say it's a considered historical judgement, with which you can agree or disagree,
And football fans have short memories. It was Ben Thatcher who banned standing on the terraces and imposed all-seater stadia. At the time, every football fanzine and supporters club in the country (we didn't have on-line forums back then) was opposed.
I agree that people should not speak ill of the dead in the case of private individuals. However, Thatcher was a public figure and if we allow her misdeeds to go unrecognised then all we are left with is sycophantic eulogies. If that happens then the history of Thatcher becomes rewritten with only one side of the story told. There is no reason why people should not use her death to criticise her actions and what she stood for.