"I don't have a problem with anyone. I haven't had a problem in the past and I don't know why I have to keep repeating my story, to be defending myself on something that doesn't belong to me every time I change clubs.
"Talk about racism? That is absolutely stupid, stupid and ridiculous. The people who know me can change that idea quickly. When I was in England my best friends were Trevor Sinclair and Chris Powell, the Charlton manager - they can tell you everything about my character."
Love the standard 'I'm not racist, some of my best friends are black' response.
Loved him at The Valley, but PdC is a total lunatic. He won't last 12 months. He's perfect Sky Sports News fodder. The press conferences will be hilarious, there'll be some ridiculous short term controversy, then someone at Sunderland will realise he's mental, fire him and realise the damage is done.
His brand of insanity as a player, but as a manager it won't wash. Swindon enjoyed the attention he brought. Sunderland won't.
Good use of the words mental and insanity. What qualifies you ?
The Miliband resignation is crap. He's off to the States indefinately anyway and so might have been resigning anyway so hardly a stance being made is it.
Maybe but it was definitely quoted in the papers on Saturday that was retaining his connections with their board. If nothing else I think it's safe to say he wasn't in the loop on this one.
He's certainly a character who inspires debate. Shame we can't seperate the footballer from the off field persona because, imo, he was at times sublime on the pitch but I struggle with the fascism.
Anyway, got a Sunderland mate at work and he's not happy at all. Already put twenty quid on them to go down. It'll be no quiet ride to the end of the season that's fo' sure.
it's interesting that a "multi cultural" society only accepts those with more left leaning politically. Isn't the point of multiculturalism to accept each others personal and private views? I really don't think he's a racist, a fascist - maybe sure. But the two can be mutually exclusive.
The Miliband resignation is crap. He's off to the States indefinately anyway and so might have been resigning anyway so hardly a stance being made is it.
Im sure I heard on the radio wed/thurs last week that he was giving up politics and off to the states for a well paid charity job.
His reasons for resigning were to allow his brother to politically thrive without the shadow or perceived threat from David hanging over him. He is becoming CEO of the charity International Rescue. He will be a success.
His reasons for resigning were to allow his brother to politically thrive without the shadow or perceived threat from David hanging over him. He is becoming CEO of the charity International Rescue. He will be a success.
How can you not be a success in such a plum job?
He could have been PM or at least party leader if he'd shown some balls when Gordon Brown was losing the plot. Everything was set up for him to resign as Foreign Secretary and mount a leadership challenge. A lot of Labour people had made the way clear for him but he bottled it and we ended up with Brown fighting the General Election when it was clear that the British people would never vote Brown into office. You have to seize the moment in life as it doesn't come along that often.
I suppose it is a plum job but I think it's fairly nonsensical today how can you not be a success. I think that being Prime Minister is a plum job but I wouldn't say David Cameron is a success.
Just to all those people defending fascism, arguing that his views are his and shouldn't effect his job. In a fascist society you can't hole any independent views - you tow the line or wave goodbye to any job/liberty. Also do you all like freedom of speech? Yeah, thought so..
I seem to remember that the fascist salute at the Lazio-Roma derby was to the Irriducibili, the Lazio ultra group, which I presume had fascist tendencies. Unlike the self-styled British Ultra groups of today, Italian ultras are not only "firms" but often politically motivated. I think PDC acknowledged in an interview that he grew up on the Curva Nord as a member of the Lazio supporter / Ultra groups at the time. The salute was emotional & stupid. I don't understand Italian politics enough to know if PDC has fascist tendencies or if he was just trying to show The Irriducibili he was one of them and had to back it up with all that nonsense about Mussolini. Either way, he ain't gonna lose that tag.
I seem to remember that the fascist salute at the Lazio-Roma derby was to the Irriducibili, the Lazio ultra group, which I presume had fascist tendencies. Unlike the self-styled British Ultra groups of today, Italian ultras are not only "firms" but often politically motivated. I think PDC acknowledged in an interview that he grew up on the Curva Nord as a member of the Lazio supporter / Ultra groups at the time. The salute was emotional & stupid. I don't understand Italian politics enough to know if PDC has fascist tendencies or if he was just trying to show The Irriducibili he was one of them and had to back it up with all that nonsense about Mussolini. Either way, he ain't gonna lose that tag.
Good post. I remember Gazza when playing for Rangers did a little flute playing mime which he thought was harmless but inflamed the Republicans. PDC might be just as daft as Gazza but perhaps not ?
I think he may keep them up and then implode next season. But from Sunderlands point of view if that were the scenario the £xx million pay off would be worth it, Given the cost of relegation, even if they were relegated next seasson as the parachute would be that much greater.
I suppose it is a plum job but I think it's fairly nonsensical today how can you not be a success. I think that being Prime Minister is a plum job but I wouldn't say David Cameron is a success.
You think being PM is a plum job? It's not even well paid!
I suppose it is a plum job but I think it's fairly nonsensical today how can you not be a success. I think that being Prime Minister is a plum job but I wouldn't say David Cameron is a success.
You think being PM is a plum job? It's not even well paid!
Let's leave it there then.
Well we have a plum as a Prime Minister. Does that count ;0)
I seem to remember that the fascist salute at the Lazio-Roma derby was to the Irriducibili, the Lazio ultra group, which I presume had fascist tendencies. Unlike the self-styled British Ultra groups of today, Italian ultras are not only "firms" but often politically motivated. I think PDC acknowledged in an interview that he grew up on the Curva Nord as a member of the Lazio supporter / Ultra groups at the time. The salute was emotional & stupid. I don't understand Italian politics enough to know if PDC has fascist tendencies or if he was just trying to show The Irriducibili he was one of them and had to back it up with all that nonsense about Mussolini. Either way, he ain't gonna lose that tag.
Pretty much true. Outside the Olimpico there's still a Mussolini monument. Lazio along with Verona's are the most controversial over there, but politics are part of their identity rather than their raison d'etre.
It was Lazio though who first sung 'there are no black Italians' to Balotelli, but that's not to say all Lazio fans agree with that, nor Di Canio. He's said in the past that he admires Mussolini for his supposed organisation, efficiency and productivity rather than politics per se, which is more understandable.
Mussolini had a concept of Spazio vitale (vital space), announced 1919. This is a a territorial area that would allow the Italian economy to grow and so they could resolve the country's problems. This was to be based on the ancient Roman province of Italia.
The right to colonize the neighboring Slovene ethnic areas and Mediterranean, being inhabited by what were alleged to be less developed peoples, was justified under the grounds that Italy was suffering from overpopulation.
Though biological racism was less prominent in Fascism than National Socialism, right from the start there was a strong racist undercurrent to the spazio vitale concept, in which Mussolini asserted there was a "natural law" for stronger peoples to subject and dominate "inferior" peoples such as the "barbaric" Slavic peoples of Yugoslavia as Mussolini claimed in a September 1920 speech, when Mussolini stated:
When dealing with such a race as Slavic - inferior and barbarian - we must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy ... We should not be afraid of new victims ... The Italian border should run across the Brenner Pass, Monte Nevoso and the Dinaric Alps ... I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Slavs for 50,000 Italians ... —Benito Mussolini, speech held in Pula, 20 September 1920[64][65]
<blockquote class="Quote" rel="cafctom">How comes all this fascism tripe and fake outrage didn't come out when he joined Swindon?
Just another example of the problem with Football in this country where the majority think the game starts and ends with the Premier League.
Good luck to him I say</blockquote>
I was thinking the same thing. Hypocrites.
This will certainly provide a lot of popcorn time. I think Paolo is just too hot headed to take the stress of the Premier League. He couldn't even handle it in L1. Will be an interesting few months though.
Interesting interview on SSN. Prevuoys comments hsd been manipulated although he had contributed tgrough his own actions. Not a racist .. cited teo black friends. Trevor Sinclair at West Ham and a certain Chris Powell at ... err ... Charlton. Overall came over quite well. Sunderland have made a statement against him beung a fascist and it bring unfounded. Should have kept mouths shut
Just to all those people defending fascism, arguing that his views are his and shouldn't effect his job. In a fascist society you can't hole any independent views - you tow the line or wave goodbye to any job/liberty. Also do you all like freedom of speech? Yeah, thought so..
You're absolutely right.
Whereas in a Communist society everyone is equal and you can say and do what you like.
The fact is, that in Italy, every club has a fan base that tends towards a particular political position. In Spain, Real Madrid fans and Barcelona fans are politically opposed. In Scotland, you have a religeous divide between Celtic and Rangers. In this country, as this site proves, you can be from the right or left and support the same side.
That fascist salute has never sat comfortably with me though. From a player who was always a bit of a hero for me -especially when he played for us. Wouldn't want him managing us!
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Anyway, got a Sunderland mate at work and he's not happy at all. Already put twenty quid on them to go down. It'll be no quiet ride to the end of the season that's fo' sure.
How can you not be a success in such a plum job?
He could have been PM or at least party leader if he'd shown some balls when Gordon Brown was losing the plot. Everything was set up for him to resign as Foreign Secretary and mount a leadership challenge. A lot of Labour people had made the way clear for him but he bottled it and we ended up with Brown fighting the General Election when it was clear that the British people would never vote Brown into office.
You have to seize the moment in life as it doesn't come along that often.
Go and work for Thunderbirds David, FAB!
Let's leave it there then.
It was Lazio though who first sung 'there are no black Italians' to Balotelli, but that's not to say all Lazio fans agree with that, nor Di Canio. He's said in the past that he admires Mussolini for his supposed organisation, efficiency and productivity rather than politics per se, which is more understandable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini
Mussolini had a concept of Spazio vitale (vital space), announced 1919. This is a a territorial area that would allow the Italian economy to grow and so they could resolve the country's problems. This was to be based on the ancient Roman province of Italia.
The right to colonize the neighboring Slovene ethnic areas and Mediterranean, being inhabited by what were alleged to be less developed peoples, was justified under the grounds that Italy was suffering from overpopulation.
Though biological racism was less prominent in Fascism than National Socialism, right from the start there was a strong racist undercurrent to the spazio vitale concept, in which Mussolini asserted there was a "natural law" for stronger peoples to subject and dominate "inferior" peoples such as the "barbaric" Slavic peoples of Yugoslavia as Mussolini claimed in a September 1920 speech, when Mussolini stated:
When dealing with such a race as Slavic - inferior and barbarian - we must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy ... We should not be afraid of new victims ... The Italian border should run across the Brenner Pass, Monte Nevoso and the Dinaric Alps ... I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Slavs for 50,000 Italians ...
—Benito Mussolini, speech held in Pula, 20 September 1920[64][65]
Football needs its characters.
Just another example of the problem with Football in this country where the majority think the game starts and ends with the Premier League.
Good luck to him I say</blockquote>
I was thinking the same thing. Hypocrites.
This will certainly provide a lot of popcorn time. I think Paolo is just too hot headed to take the stress of the Premier League. He couldn't even handle it in L1. Will be an interesting few months though.
Overall came over quite well. Sunderland have made a statement against him beung a fascist and it bring unfounded. Should have kept mouths shut
Whereas in a Communist society everyone is equal and you can say and do what you like.
That fascist salute has never sat comfortably with me though. From a player who was always a bit of a hero for me -especially when he played for us. Wouldn't want him managing us!