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Pistorious (pg 26 - now charged with Murder)
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is that from Private Eye .. or 'The Times' ?Bedsaddick said:
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The drugs thing is because they are designed to improve performance (ie cheating ) and I'm not sure commiting manslaughter does that.Fiiish said:Surely his career is over? Will he be fit enough to compete when he is eventually allowed to? If taking drugs can get you banned for life, then surely killing someone is at least as bad as that?
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There's possibly one rule for one and one for another, but you cannot use an imaginary sentence for an imaginary crime to support that argument.Fiiiiiish said:Baffling, one rule for one and one rule for another.
If she had shot him in panic of an intruder, would the sentence have been the same?4 -
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So he'll be available for Sheffield United to sign him in 10 months.7
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5 years. Doesn't seem enough if you don't agree with the verdict but then for most of us that comes down to emotion, supposition and guess work, not facts. life and legality is complicated and imperfect and always will be.
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It seemed strange to me, that the judge was reading out her own notes for the judgement and yet she seemed to stumble over many of the words as if she was reading someone else's statement. Am I just being suspicious or is there more to this than meets the eye?2
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Lawyers' writing is usually as bad as doctors'.ross1 said:It seemed strange to me, that the judge was reading out her own notes for the judgement and yet she seemed to stumble over many of the words as if she was reading someone else's statement. Am I just being suspicious or is there more to this than meets the eye?
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Don't think there is any more than a judge been given the single biggest/highest profile case for many many years in South Africa and knowing the whole world will be listening/judging her verdict. She's come under stick during the case (mostly from people who have no knowledge of South African law, if any at all) and can be pretty sure she'll take a lot of flack for the verdict (and would have regardless of her decision.) Judges have to be able to handle a lot of pressure/stress but I doubt many will have had anything quite like this before.ross1 said:It seemed strange to me, that the judge was reading out her own notes for the judgement and yet she seemed to stumble over many of the words as if she was reading someone else's statement. Am I just being suspicious or is there more to this than meets the eye?
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U get longer for not paying your council tax wot a joke .0
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I agree. A complete joke. An unfunny one. I'd like to remind everyone, this is just my opinion and that is formulated by friends and colleagues in SA0
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So, in fear of your life, and armed with a powerful handgun capable of killing someone from a very long distance, you would in fact approach within arms reach of your assailant? Given, that you are disabled and on your stumps at the time, that seems extraordinarily brave. I applaud you Sir!!colthe3rd said:
Personally if I was looking to murder someone, I'd make sure my view and my shot wasn't obstructed by a door.AllHailTheHen said:
You will have to forgive me. I binned my law degree in the 1st year so I base my opinion on what I think may have happened rather than any actual legal insight. Yes he was found guilty of manslaughter because he couldnt possibly know that shooting 4 times through a door would actually kill someone. My personal opinion is that when you fire a gun four times (not once) into a small room that someone is standing in, your only intention is to kill them.colthe3rd said:
Not sarcasm, I just don't see what point you are trying to make.AllHailTheHen said:
Lol. Looks like the sarcasm police are out in force.colthe3rd said:
THat's exactly what he was found guilty of, what's your point?AllHailTheHen said:How could he possibly know that shooting 4 bullets into a small room could kill someone.
Give me strength...
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I don't know what you are insinuating here?Rizzo said:
So, in fear of your life, and armed with a powerful handgun capable of killing someone from a very long distance, you would in fact approach within arms reach of your assailant? Given, that you are disabled and on your stumps at the time, that seems extraordinarily brave. I applaud you Sir!!colthe3rd said:
Personally if I was looking to murder someone, I'd make sure my view and my shot wasn't obstructed by a door.AllHailTheHen said:
You will have to forgive me. I binned my law degree in the 1st year so I base my opinion on what I think may have happened rather than any actual legal insight. Yes he was found guilty of manslaughter because he couldnt possibly know that shooting 4 times through a door would actually kill someone. My personal opinion is that when you fire a gun four times (not once) into a small room that someone is standing in, your only intention is to kill them.colthe3rd said:
Not sarcasm, I just don't see what point you are trying to make.AllHailTheHen said:
Lol. Looks like the sarcasm police are out in force.colthe3rd said:
THat's exactly what he was found guilty of, what's your point?AllHailTheHen said:How could he possibly know that shooting 4 bullets into a small room could kill someone.
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I'm pointing out that your contention that someone wanting to shoot someone would go and open the door first is ridiculous.colthe3rd said:
I don't know what you are insinuating here?Rizzo said:
So, in fear of your life, and armed with a powerful handgun capable of killing someone from a very long distance, you would in fact approach within arms reach of your assailant? Given, that you are disabled and on your stumps at the time, that seems extraordinarily brave. I applaud you Sir!!colthe3rd said:
Personally if I was looking to murder someone, I'd make sure my view and my shot wasn't obstructed by a door.AllHailTheHen said:
You will have to forgive me. I binned my law degree in the 1st year so I base my opinion on what I think may have happened rather than any actual legal insight. Yes he was found guilty of manslaughter because he couldnt possibly know that shooting 4 times through a door would actually kill someone. My personal opinion is that when you fire a gun four times (not once) into a small room that someone is standing in, your only intention is to kill them.colthe3rd said:
Not sarcasm, I just don't see what point you are trying to make.AllHailTheHen said:
Lol. Looks like the sarcasm police are out in force.colthe3rd said:
THat's exactly what he was found guilty of, what's your point?AllHailTheHen said:How could he possibly know that shooting 4 bullets into a small room could kill someone.
Give me strength...
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Shoot or murder them?Rizzo said:
I'm pointing out that your contention that someone wanting to shoot someone would go and open the door first is ridiculous.colthe3rd said:
I don't know what you are insinuating here?Rizzo said:
So, in fear of your life, and armed with a powerful handgun capable of killing someone from a very long distance, you would in fact approach within arms reach of your assailant? Given, that you are disabled and on your stumps at the time, that seems extraordinarily brave. I applaud you Sir!!colthe3rd said:
Personally if I was looking to murder someone, I'd make sure my view and my shot wasn't obstructed by a door.AllHailTheHen said:
You will have to forgive me. I binned my law degree in the 1st year so I base my opinion on what I think may have happened rather than any actual legal insight. Yes he was found guilty of manslaughter because he couldnt possibly know that shooting 4 times through a door would actually kill someone. My personal opinion is that when you fire a gun four times (not once) into a small room that someone is standing in, your only intention is to kill them.colthe3rd said:
Not sarcasm, I just don't see what point you are trying to make.AllHailTheHen said:
Lol. Looks like the sarcasm police are out in force.colthe3rd said:
THat's exactly what he was found guilty of, what's your point?AllHailTheHen said:How could he possibly know that shooting 4 bullets into a small room could kill someone.
Give me strength...
And that isn't want I was saying anyway.0 -
Prosecution are appealing: bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-298957861
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The prosecution have been granted leave to appeal the conviction (or lack thereof).
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this is going to run and run3
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Funny how this has resurfaced after the Dewani case wrapped up. The SA justice system must have become addicted to overblown, overhyped cases that capture the imagination of the international community.1
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He's expected to be released on parole in August !0
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Now guilty of murder. About time too.
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Can't believe the first judge ever reached that decision to start with. Hope he gets a very long stretch!0
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He won't fit on the rack.Rizzo said:Hope he gets a very long stretch!
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I'm sure something else will get stretched whilst he's inside.2
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Disgraceful it's taken this long and I feel for her family having to relive it all again - but this is justice0
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Seems unlikely - apparently he goes back to the original judge for re-sentencing.Rizzo said:Can't believe the first judge ever reached that decision to start with. Hope he gets a very long stretch!
She won't be happy having her verdict overturned, and the new sentence might well reflect that.0 -
$$$$$$$$$Rizzo said:Can't believe the first judge ever reached that decision to start with.!
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Minimum 15 years though apparently.cafcfan said:
Seems unlikely - apparently he goes back to the original judge for re-sentencing.Rizzo said:Can't believe the first judge ever reached that decision to start with. Hope he gets a very long stretch!
She won't be happy having her verdict overturned, and the new sentence might well reflect that.0
