The police don't sound like their building good relationships with local communities , sounds like an episode of Life on Mars on here , sorry to hear the crap you've had to put up with choice.
Choice is doing the right thing. For god's sake if everyone just dropped it we'd be in an even worse state. Nothing changes if people don't take a stand
Absolutely right. To even suggest dropping the complaint cos the police will have your cards marked and that they will hound you for life is just laughable . I think Covered End reads the Daily Mail .
Whats good for me ? My wrists are f***** mate and I spent a day at the hospital yesterday. The consequences don't bear thinking about if Jude (my 6 year old) had been with me. Those cuffs were so tight for an hour it cut off circulation to my hands, even today my wrists are numb, pins and needles and there are minor lacerations. Even when they took them off they "lost" the key for 5mins. I missed the last 15mins, if we'd come back and won i would of felt robbed for life.
The evidence has been photo'd and the hospital have a record, solicitor reckons compensation likely without an apology. I get what your saying but I feel like I've gotta see it through for the above reasons.
The cuffs are invariably slammed on and locked too tight for the obvious point of inflicting pain and preventing any struggling
I thought they were meant to be used as a restraining tool rather than a form of torture. Solicitor reckons they should of only been used if they felt i was gonna kick off or run away.
You think you had it bad? The route march the police took us on meant that the 3 hour limit on the father-in-laws blue badge expired. Result? £110.00 parking ticket.
I missed all that as was elsewhere, but I would of happily taken the parking ticket in exchange.
Would of thought you could write in and appeal that ...if not thats out of order.
Phoned the Parking Shop today. Not interested. Going to take it all the way with appeals but won't get anywhere.
I had my tongue firmly in my cheek when posting that. Defo think you should see this one through. They are totally in the wrong. Perhaps @newshopper might be interested in taking up the story.
Whats good for me ? My wrists are f***** mate and I spent a day at the hospital yesterday. The consequences don't bear thinking about if Jude (my 6 year old) had been with me. Those cuffs were so tight for an hour it cut off circulation to my hands, even today my wrists are numb, pins and needles and there are minor lacerations. Even when they took them off they "lost" the key for 5mins. I missed the last 15mins, if we'd come back and won i would of felt robbed for life.
So you don't reckon they may be on the look out for you, if you take action against them. Light up a fag & they'll be on you soon as. You might be a marked man. If you want to run the risk that they're looking out for you in future, it's up to you. Personally I'd rather not have that hanging over me.
Having said that it didn't happen to me, so it's up to you mate.
1. Private matter - would cost me £500 2. Solicitor takes on the case - No win No fee 3. Legal Aid - however it transpired this case wouldn't qualify for legal aid, I wouldn't have qualified anyway
So taking this forward, the fsf (very helpful org) are drafting a letter on my behalf over the next few days to start the process on a no win no fee. Once there has been a response from the Police, the Solicitors will decide whether to invest their time on it as they firstly need to ascertain whether they think it's winnable or not. They have advised that initially that the officers involved with be investigated by local police ("who tend to cover each others backs" - solicitors words not mine), so have been warned it can be a frustrating process.
I have read all the discussions relating to this incident, and as a ex-policeman think that you were probably asking for it young man.
the general public do not ask to be tortured with handcuffs by the police, restrained maybe but this seems to be force beyond what could be considered reasonable and is wrong and you as an ex policeman should know that, perhaps as you don't, it is just as well that you are ex.
I have read all the discussions relating to this incident, and as a ex-policeman think that you were probably asking for it young man.
Seriously? I spent ages in the other thread on the Palace match defending the police and their actions - just for this.
I can fully understand if you said something like "It's fairly easy to cause injury when cuffing someone - unfortunately that happens"; as I believe it does.
This was actually my main concern when reading this thread; it would be easy to claim that any injuries were accidental and due to the handcuffs themselves - not specifically the officer.
But to actually say that he deserved it? Glad you're not in the job anymore mate, that's one less tosser in uniform giving all the decent officers a bad name...
I do hope he was joking on here! But unfortunately that is the attitude of the older generation of police cuntsable who should be now pensioned off and acting the big I am in his security hut on a disused industrial estate watching old episodes of Sweeney! Remembering wot the force used be like!
Sorry to read of your unpleasant occurrence on Saturday. Was it a wrists twisted, wrists stacked, behind the back cuffing? If it was, I sympathise. It's very painful. That you were not charged at the nick is a good sign that they have little or no evidence against you. It's good that you got your injuries seen at hospital. Do bear in mind that you may need the records to back up your claim for injury, should you decide to make one. I suggest that you contact the hospital and request that they send a report to your GP. It might be sensible to see your GP and get the injuries noted by them, too. Did you ask a friend to take a photo of your wrists? You've probably done the following, but in case you haven't, I advise making notes of approx timings, any police shoulder numbers and anything you can recall being said. I can't recommend a solicitor, but many offer a 'no-win, no-fee' service. The CAB might be a source of help on this. Bon chance.
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Would of thought you could write in and appeal that ...if not thats out of order.
I had my tongue firmly in my cheek when posting that. Defo think you should see this one through. They are totally in the wrong. Perhaps @newshopper might be interested in taking up the story.
Having had nothing but bad experiences with the ob myself, i am once again disgusted by this story.
I imagine there are police on here. Take a look at yourselves and your colleagues. Who are the real scum?
1. Private matter - would cost me £500
2. Solicitor takes on the case - No win No fee
3. Legal Aid - however it transpired this case wouldn't qualify for legal aid, I wouldn't have qualified anyway
So taking this forward, the fsf (very helpful org) are drafting a letter on my behalf over the next few days to start the process on a no win no fee. Once there has been a response from the Police, the Solicitors will decide whether to invest their time on it as they firstly need to ascertain whether they think it's winnable or not. They have advised that initially that the officers involved with be investigated by local police ("who tend to cover each others backs" - solicitors words not mine), so have been warned it can be a frustrating process.
Good luck and sorry to hear about your experiance.
I can fully understand if you said something like "It's fairly easy to cause injury when cuffing someone - unfortunately that happens"; as I believe it does.
This was actually my main concern when reading this thread; it would be easy to claim that any injuries were accidental and due to the handcuffs themselves - not specifically the officer.
But to actually say that he deserved it? Glad you're not in the job anymore mate, that's one less tosser in uniform giving all the decent officers a bad name...
And don't forget.
Keep em peeled...
Provide bail or something?
It's good that you got your injuries seen at hospital. Do bear in mind that you may need the records to back up your claim for injury, should you decide to make one. I suggest that you contact the hospital and request that they send a report to your GP. It might be sensible to see your GP and get the injuries noted by them, too. Did you ask a friend to take a photo of your wrists? You've probably done the following, but in case you haven't, I advise making notes of approx timings, any police shoulder numbers and anything you can recall being said.
I can't recommend a solicitor, but many offer a 'no-win, no-fee' service. The CAB might be a source of help on this. Bon chance.