Mate seriously, we've tried to play 4-4-2 a couple of times this season and it hasn't worked well. In general we've done best 4-5-1, we shouldn't switch to a particular formation that doesn't work for us just because we're at home.
More of a case of why change a winning team, 3 wins in a row, 2 with the same starting 11. Lots of people all season have said we've not had a settled side and always change the 11 from game to game. It's worked the last 2 games why change it. Always easier to pick a team after the game.
4-5-1 does not suit us at home, we lack tempo and it quietens the crowd then we ultimately get sucked into the oppo's game plan. At home WE should setting the tempo and as far as I can recollect Leicester was the last time we really went at it from the start. I agree away from home it's good for us as the results have proved but we need to take advantage of our 12 man and a single striker limits us in our ability to keep the ball in advanced areas which ultimately excites the crowd and raises noise levels. It's been dull from the start of most games at home for a while lets be honest!!
The reason we play 4-5-1 at home is because our midfield sadly isn't strong enough , we hit the post and the cross bar today , if we'd got a 2nd goal i could have seen Wendies heads dropping , we didn't we lost and we move on.
Our squad isn't good enough to allow us to play 4:4:2 with any degree of quality. We are playing to our strengths. It's not ideal but its the best we got.
4-5-1 when played properly can be 4-3-3. The main thing is to get the ball into the front mans feet and through midfield....something we very rarely do, especially at home.
nothing wrong with teh formation today - players did their bit and afer 70 mins 1-0 up we were ok ............ we just needed to capitalise on the huge spaces being left open for us when they attacked by bringing on a couple of pacy players (BWP & Hariott) and to replace a tiring Kermy with a powerful strong Fuller.
nothing wrong with teh formation today - players did their bit and afer 70 mins 1-0 up we were ok ............ we just needed to capitalise on the huge spaces being left open for us when they attacked by bringing on a couple of pacy players (BWP & Hariott) and to replace a tiring Kermy with a powerful strong Fuller.
Today Kermorgant played so deep at times that we rarely had a recognised striker with Pritchard and Jackson playing up top, and then Kermorgant found himself out wide all the time when Hamer had a goal kick. I know he may be a good header of the ball but just seemed like the team was all over the place in the final third in terms of positionig.
nothing wrong with teh formation today - players did their bit and afer 70 mins 1-0 up we were ok ............ we just needed to capitalise on the huge spaces being left open for us when they attacked by bringing on a couple of pacy players (BWP & Hariott) and to replace a tiring Kermy with a powerful strong Fuller.
So we bring a kid on to defend a 1-0 when waggy was still going strong and revert back to a 4-4-2 when we were already being outmuscled in a 4-5-1
4-5-1 isn't a defensive formation when you have the likes of waggy, Wilson and jacko bombing forward. Jacko scored, waggy hit the post and I felt Wilson should have shot across the keeper instead of passing when we were 1-0 up.
It works for us, and remember the 2 goals we conceded yesterday were a Hamer flap and a lucky deflection.
4-5-1 should have been changed to 4-3-3 on the 75 minute .Wednesday were taking chances and leaving big gaps all over the place when they finally started playing some football through their wingers.We should have had either Harriot or Green on running at Buxton and anyone with pace told to bomb on directly at the hapless Llera.I was so looking forward to seeing fuller turning him totally inside out in the last 15 minutes but unfortunately it didn't happen .Only Chris Powell knows why.
4-5-1 should have been changed to 4-3-3 on the 75 minute .Wednesday were taking chances and leaving big gaps all over the place when they finally started playing some football through their wingers.We should have had either Harriot or Green on running at Buxton and anyone with pace told to bomb on directly at the hapless Llera.I was so looking forward to seeing fuller turning him totally inside out in the last 15 minutes but unfortunately it didn't happen .Only Chris Powell knows why.
This. Last fifteen minutes at least their back four didn't need to defend and could join in the attacks at will and with ease. Yann was out on his feet and both Wilson and Wagstaff couldn't compensate. On 75 minutes I would have brought on BWP and Fuller for Yann and Wilson. Would have changed the flow of the game IMHO and might have got us three points.
You only have to look at our record if you want to decide whether we are using the correct formation and tactics: a) Away we are one of the best sides in the division. b) At home we are one of the worst sides in the division.
Don't think it's the formation that was the problem yesterday at all. I do think that Yann did his best but it was far from his best game for us and he was (understandably) shot after 70 minutes carrying Big Mig et al on his back so couldn't offer us an outlet. Fuller could have offered us a more straightforward, physical replacement or BWP for his work rate and to stretch their defence.
Problem wasn't the starting lineup it was sticking with shagged out players and workshy layabout fancy dan Dahlia Stephens when Wednesday upped their game and squashed our overstretched midfield 2 of JJ and Bradley Pritchard into the Somme like mud. Needed freshening up around 70 minutes. SCP has to acknowledge his part in the tactical failure. Wednesday genuinely poor, just strong and large - too strong and two large for 10 man charlton
nothing wrong with teh formation today - players did their bit and afer 70 mins 1-0 up we were ok ............ we just needed to capitalise on the huge spaces being left open for us when they attacked by bringing on a couple of pacy players (BWP & Hariott) and to replace a tiring Kermy with a powerful strong Fuller.
we didn't, so we lost.
This. x3.
x5
+2.5.
You just knew they would score as the players were tiring. 3 points lost.
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Lots of people all season have said we've not had a settled side and always change the 11 from game to game. It's worked the last 2 games why change it.
Always easier to pick a team after the game.
We would have been totally overrun playing 4-4-2.
Sad but true.
Who was the last manager to do that? Pardew.....
The main thing is to get the ball into the front mans feet and through midfield....something we very rarely do, especially at home.
we didn't, so we lost.
4-5-1 isn't a defensive formation when you have the likes of waggy, Wilson and jacko bombing forward. Jacko scored, waggy hit the post and I felt Wilson should have shot across the keeper instead of passing when we were 1-0 up.
It works for us, and remember the 2 goals we conceded yesterday were a Hamer flap and a lucky deflection.
So much backwards thinking by so many when it comes to having 1 striker
Forget about Wednesday, they're well suited to the bottom half of this division
a) Away we are one of the best sides in the division.
b) At home we are one of the worst sides in the division.
BTW...shouldn't this be on the post match thread?
You just knew they would score as the players were tiring. 3 points lost.