Maybe on jimmys day, the very last thing you would want your fans doing is the slit throat gesture. I guess you will pass the blame onto us for that as well.
Actually I thought it was pretty good. We did used to be two very close clubs, why would Millwall not also recongise that our fans have changed in the way that we have.
'However, after witnessing the usually sedate followers of Charlton Athletic throwing flares and plastic blue seats onto the hallowed Den pitch' Wrong as it was - Dont make it out to be worse than it was - one chair. Oh yes what about the Millwall lobbing coins and bottles at us during and after the game. What about the two sad, fat old buggers offering everyone out after the game. What about the Millwall 'lads' (grown men) who chased the Charlton 17-18-19 year old lads from outside the M of G before the game.
Millwall - Its never their fault - Always the bloody victim!
Even the nicest people lose their tempers after enough provocation. This article is basically the school yard bully complaining to the teacher because the kid he's been harassing finally decided to strike back. Pathetic.
Oh, and I am pretty sure we normally take as many as we're allowed for most London games, so don't flatter yourself.
Actually I thought it was pretty good. We did used to be two very close clubs, why would Millwall not also recongise that our fans have changed in the way that we have.
Me too. Thought it was a pretty reasonable article. We don't have to set off flares and throw seats just to prove that we are not slinking away politely.
Genuinely never thought I'd see the day when MILLWALL could try and claim the moral high ground over us! Or over anyone for that matter! Is the guy who wrote this really 'Bunny' on here?
even when trying to write some 'save the fixture' piece he/she still cant help but get the digs in and try to keep the high ground without rolling over too much as that would never do... but to be honest it doesnt bother me and doesnt change jack, i'll still be there for the home game and i'll still feel the same as ive always done to a certain type of spanner fan, thats it in a nutshell for me... same old same old.
The vast majority of Millwall fans acted reasonably but many of our fans are blaming ALL Millwall fans. It works both ways. There are idiots 'supporting' both clubs.
I thought "sports reporters" were ment to report the football match, not the goings on afterwards.
Is not a 'sports report' from a 'sports reporter' it is a 'comment piece' from a 'columnist' and it therefore supposed to give comment.
On a side note why are people saying it is from a female? Unless I am missing something it says Matt Little which seems to be very much a male name?
Because when he first posted on here,he pretended to be a woman.
We have had other WUM's from the Toolbox as well for example FrankBorman who used to post on here saying how brilliant the spanners were whilst pretending to be a Charlton fan.
What is it about the spanners that they have to pretend to be something they are not?
The vast majority of Millwall fans acted reasonably but many of our fans are blaming ALL Millwall fans. It works both ways. There are idiots 'supporting' both clubs.
Millwall are always the big hard men revelling in no-one liking them and their hooligan reputation, until, that is, they're the victims. And I don't mean that they're genuinely the victims, just that's how they like to be perceived when it suits them.
What they were actually the victims of on Saturday is being outsung and a single flare and a single chair being thrown.
It's laughable that Millwall can talk about Charlton throwing a single flare and a single chair and insinuate that this has made this fixture ugly. I've been to the Den several times and several home fixtures and to be honest, a fair few of them have been ugly experiences for me, I've been shoved head first at a phone box, threatened at a station and narrowly avoided a whack as I came out of the covered end to find Millwall fans charging down the street indiscriminately hitting anyone who was unlucky enough to be exiting at the wrong time. Irrespective of age or gender.
And thankfully I've not been caught up in it but who hasn't heard the stories of the local pubs on these 'chummy' derby days.
All of a sudden, the fixture has become a tiny little bit more ugly for Millwall fans (and I mean a tiny bit) and it's Charlton that have perpetrated this against their South London brethren. I mean, we're all brothers in arms. Aren't we?
My grandad was one of those that used to go to Charlton one week and Millwall the next, and my dad with him. They were both Charlton fans though because they couldn't stand the way the Millwall fans, the core Millwall fans, the ones that dictate the spirit of the club, behaved.
The threats of reprisals at The Valley in March are already being posted on moronic message boards by that small percentage of Millwall fans that stuck at school long enough to be literate. They'll probably calm down by March and I dare say that it'll be the same as every other time we host them; there'll be far more of them in the ground than have bought tickets and there'll be a much higher chance than there is in any other fixture you will ever go to of you being on the receiving end of a threat, a cut throat gesture or even a smack on the way to the station.
This ridiculous 'woe is me' article is just typical of Millwall, it even manages to dredge up the one instance where they may have been victims. Millwall accusing Charlton of making a fixture ugly is like China accusing you of personally destroying the environment by driving your car.
I'm not condoning the throwing of flares or seats but congratulations to those that created such a great atmosphere on Saturday without resorting to this (that would be 99.99% of of those in attendance) and I look forward to the home fixture where, if this article is anything to go by, we will all be able to mingle peacefully with the Millwall fans on the walk back to the station and give constructive feedback about the performances of our respective teams. Or not. Probably not, eh? Not now Charlton have made the fixture ugly.
Don't think that article could be even remotely more patronising and just... weird.
"I was genuinely miffed as to why a section of Charlton fans decided to hijack the day with petty violence"
Absolutely ridiculous statement. Charlton fans hijacked the day with violence? I didn't see a single Charlton fan instigating violence of any sort (unless we're counting a chair being thrown as hijacking the day with violence?). I did however see Charlton fans get offered out, spat at, had bottles thrown at, insulted, sworn at, and threatened with getting "a smack up the road" - all as I silently walked up the road leaving the ground with my equally silent friend. Charlton fans definitely hijacked the day, but not with violence - with noise and atmosphere, something that really got under millwall's skin as they clearly expect fans to turn up and quietly accept a defeat before tiptoeing our way out. That is of course unless we want to "turn this derby into something ugly"? Ridiculous.
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Wrong as it was - Dont make it out to be worse than it was - one chair.
Oh yes what about the Millwall lobbing coins and bottles at us during and after the game.
What about the two sad, fat old buggers offering everyone out after the game.
What about the Millwall 'lads' (grown men) who chased the Charlton 17-18-19 year old lads from outside the M of G before the game.
Millwall - Its never their fault - Always the bloody victim!
This article is basically the school yard bully complaining to the teacher because the kid he's been harassing finally decided to strike back.
Pathetic.
Oh, and I am pretty sure we normally take as many as we're allowed for most London games, so don't flatter yourself.
Our fans were superb and Millwall didnt like it. They thought they were gonna turn up, win and take the piss out of anorak Charlton.
They never and they dont like it (im talking about football/singing/atmosphere not violence)
On a side note why are people saying it is from a female? Unless I am missing something it says Matt Little which seems to be very much a male name?
We have had other WUM's from the Toolbox as well for example FrankBorman who used to post on here saying how brilliant the spanners were whilst pretending to be a Charlton fan.
What is it about the spanners that they have to pretend to be something they are not?
What they were actually the victims of on Saturday is being outsung and a single flare and a single chair being thrown.
It's laughable that Millwall can talk about Charlton throwing a single flare and a single chair and insinuate that this has made this fixture ugly. I've been to the Den several times and several home fixtures and to be honest, a fair few of them have been ugly experiences for me, I've been shoved head first at a phone box, threatened at a station and narrowly avoided a whack as I came out of the covered end to find Millwall fans charging down the street indiscriminately hitting anyone who was unlucky enough to be exiting at the wrong time. Irrespective of age or gender.
And thankfully I've not been caught up in it but who hasn't heard the stories of the local pubs on these 'chummy' derby days.
All of a sudden, the fixture has become a tiny little bit more ugly for Millwall fans (and I mean a tiny bit) and it's Charlton that have perpetrated this against their South London brethren. I mean, we're all brothers in arms. Aren't we?
My grandad was one of those that used to go to Charlton one week and Millwall the next, and my dad with him. They were both Charlton fans though because they couldn't stand the way the Millwall fans, the core Millwall fans, the ones that dictate the spirit of the club, behaved.
The threats of reprisals at The Valley in March are already being posted on moronic message boards by that small percentage of Millwall fans that stuck at school long enough to be literate. They'll probably calm down by March and I dare say that it'll be the same as every other time we host them; there'll be far more of them in the ground than have bought tickets and there'll be a much higher chance than there is in any other fixture you will ever go to of you being on the receiving end of a threat, a cut throat gesture or even a smack on the way to the station.
This ridiculous 'woe is me' article is just typical of Millwall, it even manages to dredge up the one instance where they may have been victims. Millwall accusing Charlton of making a fixture ugly is like China accusing you of personally destroying the environment by driving your car.
I'm not condoning the throwing of flares or seats but congratulations to those that created such a great atmosphere on Saturday without resorting to this (that would be 99.99% of of those in attendance) and I look forward to the home fixture where, if this article is anything to go by, we will all be able to mingle peacefully with the Millwall fans on the walk back to the station and give constructive feedback about the performances of our respective teams. Or not. Probably not, eh? Not now Charlton have made the fixture ugly.
"I was genuinely miffed as to why a section of Charlton fans decided to hijack the day with petty violence"
Absolutely ridiculous statement. Charlton fans hijacked the day with violence? I didn't see a single Charlton fan instigating violence of any sort (unless we're counting a chair being thrown as hijacking the day with violence?). I did however see Charlton fans get offered out, spat at, had bottles thrown at, insulted, sworn at, and threatened with getting "a smack up the road" - all as I silently walked up the road leaving the ground with my equally silent friend. Charlton fans definitely hijacked the day, but not with violence - with noise and atmosphere, something that really got under millwall's skin as they clearly expect fans to turn up and quietly accept a defeat before tiptoeing our way out. That is of course unless we want to "turn this derby into something ugly"? Ridiculous.
"Leave a comment there you sad cunt, and stop whinging on at me personally."
"Fuck off you Charlton cunt."
Yes, we're the antagonizing ones in this rivalry, lads..........
Is it to shock or just plain ignorance?