Just shows how poor our academy is. Only three Charlton players called up! The other 19 are all from Crystal Palace.
Hear from Academy Director Paul Hart and U21 Development Coach Nathan Jones about these players and others when they come to Bromley Addicks next week, Wednesday 26th.
Goalkeepers Jordan Pickford (Sunderland), George Willis (Sheffield United) Defenders Tyler Blackett (Manchester United), Jordan Cousins (Charlton Athletic), Eric Dier (Sporting Lisbon), Jack O’Connell (Blackburn Rovers), Daniel Potts (West Ham United), Brad Smith (Liverpool), Jack Stephens (Southampton) Midfielders Lewis Baker (Chelsea), Nathaniel Chalobah (Watford – on loan from Chelsea), Callum Chambers (Southampton), John Lundstram (Everton), Blair Turgott (West Ham United) Forwards Chuba Akpom (Arsenal), Jack Barmby (Manchester United), Jordi Hiwula-Mayifuila (Manchester City), Hallam Hope (Everton).
Very encouraging news. Hope they we get to see them all in Charlton red rather than Arsenal, Man U or Liverpool's like our other recent youth products.
Goalkeepers Jordan Pickford (Sunderland), George Willis (Sheffield United) Defenders Tyler Blackett (Manchester United), Jordan Cousins (Charlton Athletic), Eric Dier (Sporting Lisbon), Jack O’Connell (Blackburn Rovers), Daniel Potts (West Ham United), Brad Smith (Liverpool), Jack Stephens (Southampton) Midfielders Lewis Baker (Chelsea), Nathaniel Chalobah (Watford – on loan from Chelsea), Callum Chambers (Southampton), John Lundstram (Everton), Blair Turgott (West Ham United) Forwards Chuba Akpom (Arsenal), Jack Barmby (Manchester United), Jordi Hiwula-Mayifuila (Manchester City), Hallam Hope (Everton).
So it's 'only' Jordan Cousins who has made the final squad?
Just shows how poor our academy is. Only three Charlton players called up! The other 19 are all from Crystal Palace.
Hear from Academy Director Paul Hart and U21 Development Coach Nathan Jones about these players and others when they come to Bromley Addicks next week, Wednesday 26th.
Goalkeepers Jordan Pickford (Sunderland), George Willis (Sheffield United) Defenders Tyler Blackett (Manchester United), Jordan Cousins (Charlton Athletic), Eric Dier (Sporting Lisbon), Jack O’Connell (Blackburn Rovers), Daniel Potts (West Ham United), Brad Smith (Liverpool), Jack Stephens (Southampton) Midfielders Lewis Baker (Chelsea), Nathaniel Chalobah (Watford – on loan from Chelsea), Callum Chambers (Southampton), John Lundstram (Everton), Blair Turgott (West Ham United) Forwards Chuba Akpom (Arsenal), Jack Barmby (Manchester United), Jordi Hiwula-Mayifuila (Manchester City), Hallam Hope (Everton).
So it's 'only' Jordan Cousins who has made the final squad?
Squad was taken from the FA website.
According to my ITK sources*, Azzez was originally on standby but has now been called up.
Very interesting, always felt that Hart has a great record of developing internationals. Wonder what the story is with the Sporting Clube player in there.
Although Jordan Cousins has been part of the England set up since before Hart's time with us.
Having said that, it's one thing for a player at 15 to be regarded as the next Wunderkind - and another for him to have the right environment and guidance so that he actually reaches his potential.
I wouldn't get too excited - you'll not see them play for the 1st team..............well, not until they are 30 and have played for a number of other clubs first !!
Squad in full
Goalkeepers
Jordan Pickford (Sunderland), George Willis (Sheffield United)
Defenders
Tyler Blackett (Manchester United), Jordan Cousins (Charlton Athletic), Eric Dier (Sporting Lisbon), Jack O’Connell (Blackburn Rovers), Daniel Potts (West Ham United), Brad Smith (Liverpool), Jack Stephens (Southampton)
Midfielders
Lewis Baker (Chelsea), Nathaniel Chalobah (Watford – on loan from Chelsea), Callum Chambers (Southampton), John Lundstram (Everton), Blair Turgott (West Ham United)
Forwards
Chuba Akpom (Arsenal), Jack Barmby (Manchester United), Jordi Hiwula-Mayifuila (Manchester City), Hallam Hope (Everton).
Interesting to see what happened to all of these players - a couple like Pickford and Dier have gone on to be full internationals but so many have gone the other way. Turgott, for example, has spent most of his career in non league, recently for Jamaica too and is currently playing for Ostersund in Sweden. The likes of Hiwula-Mayifuila, Hope and Willis never fulfilled their early promise either.
The one that really fascinates me though and that sums up everything wrong with the system of the likes of Chelsea stock piling is Lewis Baker. Having played previously this season four times for Chelsea's U21s in the Football League Trophy, he scored on his debut for Stoke having signed for them on a permanent deal last week. Baker joined Chelsea at the age of nine but never made a single Premier League appearance for them. He went out on loan no less than nine times.
Baker will be 27 in three months time - 17 years at Chelsea without ever getting near the PL first team. That is absolutely ridiculous. Even more so when one considers that, in this period, they've sold the two best players currently playing in the Premier League for a combined profit of just £12m
Squad in full
Goalkeepers
Jordan Pickford (Sunderland), George Willis (Sheffield United)
Defenders
Tyler Blackett (Manchester United), Jordan Cousins (Charlton Athletic), Eric Dier (Sporting Lisbon), Jack O’Connell (Blackburn Rovers), Daniel Potts (West Ham United), Brad Smith (Liverpool), Jack Stephens (Southampton)
Midfielders
Lewis Baker (Chelsea), Nathaniel Chalobah (Watford – on loan from Chelsea), Callum Chambers (Southampton), John Lundstram (Everton), Blair Turgott (West Ham United)
Forwards
Chuba Akpom (Arsenal), Jack Barmby (Manchester United), Jordi Hiwula-Mayifuila (Manchester City), Hallam Hope (Everton).
Interesting to see what happened to all of these players - a couple like Pickford and Dier have gone on to be full internationals but so many have gone the other way. Turgott, for example, has spent most of his career in non league, recently for Jamaica too and is currently playing for Ostersund in Sweden. The likes of Hiwula-Mayifuila, Hope and Willis never fulfilled their early promise either.
The one that really fascinates me though and that sums up everything wrong with the system of the likes of Chelsea stock piling is Lewis Baker. Having played previously this season four times for Chelsea's U21s in the Football League Trophy, he scored on his debut for Stoke having signed for them on a permanent deal last week. Baker joined Chelsea at the age of nine but never made a single Premier League appearance for them. He went out on loan no less than nine times.
Baker will be 27 in three months time - 17 years at Chelsea without ever getting near the PL first team. That is absolutely ridiculous. Even more so when one considers that, in this period, they've sold the two best players currently playing in the Premier League for a combined profit of just £12m
Jack Barmby is another strange one, he was the standout player at United and at 27 has only played 50 games in his career, most in the MLS reserve league.
Squad in full
Goalkeepers
Jordan Pickford (Sunderland), George Willis (Sheffield United)
Defenders
Tyler Blackett (Manchester United), Jordan Cousins (Charlton Athletic), Eric Dier (Sporting Lisbon), Jack O’Connell (Blackburn Rovers), Daniel Potts (West Ham United), Brad Smith (Liverpool), Jack Stephens (Southampton)
Midfielders
Lewis Baker (Chelsea), Nathaniel Chalobah (Watford – on loan from Chelsea), Callum Chambers (Southampton), John Lundstram (Everton), Blair Turgott (West Ham United)
Forwards
Chuba Akpom (Arsenal), Jack Barmby (Manchester United), Jordi Hiwula-Mayifuila (Manchester City), Hallam Hope (Everton).
Interesting to see what happened to all of these players - a couple like Pickford and Dier have gone on to be full internationals but so many have gone the other way. Turgott, for example, has spent most of his career in non league, recently for Jamaica too and is currently playing for Ostersund in Sweden. The likes of Hiwula-Mayifuila, Hope and Willis never fulfilled their early promise either.
The one that really fascinates me though and that sums up everything wrong with the system of the likes of Chelsea stock piling is Lewis Baker. Having played previously this season four times for Chelsea's U21s in the Football League Trophy, he scored on his debut for Stoke having signed for them on a permanent deal last week. Baker joined Chelsea at the age of nine but never made a single Premier League appearance for them. He went out on loan no less than nine times.
Baker will be 27 in three months time - 17 years at Chelsea without ever getting near the PL first team. That is absolutely ridiculous. Even more so when one considers that, in this period, they've sold the two best players currently playing in the Premier League for a combined profit of just £12m
Really good article on Baker in The Athletic recently:
Squad in full
Goalkeepers
Jordan Pickford (Sunderland), George Willis (Sheffield United)
Defenders
Tyler Blackett (Manchester United), Jordan Cousins (Charlton Athletic), Eric Dier (Sporting Lisbon), Jack O’Connell (Blackburn Rovers), Daniel Potts (West Ham United), Brad Smith (Liverpool), Jack Stephens (Southampton)
Midfielders
Lewis Baker (Chelsea), Nathaniel Chalobah (Watford – on loan from Chelsea), Callum Chambers (Southampton), John Lundstram (Everton), Blair Turgott (West Ham United)
Forwards
Chuba Akpom (Arsenal), Jack Barmby (Manchester United), Jordi Hiwula-Mayifuila (Manchester City), Hallam Hope (Everton).
Interesting to see what happened to all of these players - a couple like Pickford and Dier have gone on to be full internationals but so many have gone the other way. Turgott, for example, has spent most of his career in non league, recently for Jamaica too and is currently playing for Ostersund in Sweden. The likes of Hiwula-Mayifuila, Hope and Willis never fulfilled their early promise either.
The one that really fascinates me though and that sums up everything wrong with the system of the likes of Chelsea stock piling is Lewis Baker. Having played previously this season four times for Chelsea's U21s in the Football League Trophy, he scored on his debut for Stoke having signed for them on a permanent deal last week. Baker joined Chelsea at the age of nine but never made a single Premier League appearance for them. He went out on loan no less than nine times.
Baker will be 27 in three months time - 17 years at Chelsea without ever getting near the PL first team. That is absolutely ridiculous. Even more so when one considers that, in this period, they've sold the two best players currently playing in the Premier League for a combined profit of just £12m
Really good article on Baker in The Athletic recently:
Very interesting article and seems that he became a bit of a victim of circumstance that, in the end, Chelsea used him as the "educator" and string puller in their U21s. How galling must it have been for him to see the players he is meant to be guiding then do the very thing he never did - play in the Premier League. That said, the choice was, to a large degree, to constantly go out on loan and play for the U21s rather drop down a division, as he has done now, for almost certainly less money but in order to carve out a career.
Squad in full
Goalkeepers
Jordan Pickford (Sunderland), George Willis (Sheffield United)
Defenders
Tyler Blackett (Manchester United), Jordan Cousins (Charlton Athletic), Eric Dier (Sporting Lisbon), Jack O’Connell (Blackburn Rovers), Daniel Potts (West Ham United), Brad Smith (Liverpool), Jack Stephens (Southampton)
Midfielders
Lewis Baker (Chelsea), Nathaniel Chalobah (Watford – on loan from Chelsea), Callum Chambers (Southampton), John Lundstram (Everton), Blair Turgott (West Ham United)
Forwards
Chuba Akpom (Arsenal), Jack Barmby (Manchester United), Jordi Hiwula-Mayifuila (Manchester City), Hallam Hope (Everton).
Interesting to see what happened to all of these players - a couple like Pickford and Dier have gone on to be full internationals but so many have gone the other way. Turgott, for example, has spent most of his career in non league, recently for Jamaica too and is currently playing for Ostersund in Sweden. The likes of Hiwula-Mayifuila, Hope and Willis never fulfilled their early promise either.
The one that really fascinates me though and that sums up everything wrong with the system of the likes of Chelsea stock piling is Lewis Baker. Having played previously this season four times for Chelsea's U21s in the Football League Trophy, he scored on his debut for Stoke having signed for them on a permanent deal last week. Baker joined Chelsea at the age of nine but never made a single Premier League appearance for them. He went out on loan no less than nine times.
Baker will be 27 in three months time - 17 years at Chelsea without ever getting near the PL first team. That is absolutely ridiculous. Even more so when one considers that, in this period, they've sold the two best players currently playing in the Premier League for a combined profit of just £12m
Really good article on Baker in The Athletic recently:
Very interesting article and seems that he became a bit of a victim of circumstance that, in the end, Chelsea used him as the "educator" and string puller in their U21s. How galling must it have been for him to see the players he is meant to be guiding then do the very thing he never did - play in the Premier League. That said, the choice was, to a large degree, to constantly go out on loan and play for the U21s rather drop down a division, as he has done now, for almost certainly less money but in order to carve out a career.
Yeah I remember seeing a lot of him playing for the England U21s and thinking he had all the tools but might need to go abroad to best fulfill his potential. But he did go abroad and it didn't really work. Like you said, there doesn't seem to be any one thing with Baker, just a victim of circumstance.
Another Chelsea youngster in this list who I thought had a bright future after watching him play for England youth sides was Nathaniel Chalobah. I think with Chalobah it might have been a bit more the case that physical attributes hid slight technical shortcomings when he was younger, and between that and ridiculously bad luck with injury he just never really kicked on.
JFC was also a part of this England youth group. I remember seeing him play in a side with Chalobah at CB, Cousins at RB, and Raheem Sterling (playing up a year, maybe two) on the left at a U17 Euros and thinking JFC had a really bright future ahead of him. Definitely a really good player for us, nut also shows that I'm not a great spotter of talent.
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Hear from Academy Director Paul Hart and U21 Development Coach Nathan Jones about these players and others when they come to Bromley Addicks next week, Wednesday 26th.
Goalkeepers
Jordan Pickford (Sunderland), George Willis (Sheffield United)
Defenders
Tyler Blackett (Manchester United), Jordan Cousins (Charlton Athletic), Eric Dier (Sporting Lisbon), Jack O’Connell (Blackburn Rovers), Daniel Potts (West Ham United), Brad Smith (Liverpool), Jack Stephens (Southampton)
Midfielders
Lewis Baker (Chelsea), Nathaniel Chalobah (Watford – on loan from Chelsea), Callum Chambers (Southampton), John Lundstram (Everton), Blair Turgott (West Ham United)
Forwards
Chuba Akpom (Arsenal), Jack Barmby (Manchester United), Jordi Hiwula-Mayifuila (Manchester City), Hallam Hope (Everton).
According to my ITK sources*, Azzez was originally on standby but has now been called up.
*not really
Having said that, it's one thing for a player at 15 to be regarded as the next Wunderkind - and another for him to have the right environment and guidance so that he actually reaches his potential.
No doubt that the Academy is in the right hands.
I didn't know that his grandfather was former Charlton player Ted Croker so Peter Croker was his great-uncle.
Sign him up!
But a 3rd generation player!
The one that really fascinates me though and that sums up everything wrong with the system of the likes of Chelsea stock piling is Lewis Baker. Having played previously this season four times for Chelsea's U21s in the Football League Trophy, he scored on his debut for Stoke having signed for them on a permanent deal last week. Baker joined Chelsea at the age of nine but never made a single Premier League appearance for them. He went out on loan no less than nine times.
Baker will be 27 in three months time - 17 years at Chelsea without ever getting near the PL first team. That is absolutely ridiculous. Even more so when one considers that, in this period, they've sold the two best players currently playing in the Premier League for a combined profit of just £12m
https://theathletic.com/3032012/2021/12/24/one-chelsea-appearance-in-eight-years-what-next-for-forgotten-man-lewis-baker?source=user-shared-article
Another Chelsea youngster in this list who I thought had a bright future after watching him play for England youth sides was Nathaniel Chalobah. I think with Chalobah it might have been a bit more the case that physical attributes hid slight technical shortcomings when he was younger, and between that and ridiculously bad luck with injury he just never really kicked on.
JFC was also a part of this England youth group. I remember seeing him play in a side with Chalobah at CB, Cousins at RB, and Raheem Sterling (playing up a year, maybe two) on the left at a U17 Euros and thinking JFC had a really bright future ahead of him. Definitely a really good player for us, nut also shows that I'm not a great spotter of talent.