However much it pains to see Lennie in the Palace dugout, you have to say it was an excellent appointment, having an experience old pro to back up an inexperienced young manager in his first job, at a club where money is tight was a good move...
Was more painful to see him in the lounge afterwards wearing a Palace tie. Totally unnecessary I thought. Probably shouldn't have booed him though... ;-)
Agree with Oggy. People must remember that, although he probably holds a soft spot for us, working for Palace is a job, as was working for us. Let's face it, if he loved the club as much as many here seem to think he should, he'd never have left for Boro when he did.
It's painful to see him with a Palace tie on, but he does have to work for a living. He's probably one of the few people who can make it to Selhurst without getting lost too.
Gritty worked for Millwall for a while, but somehow it didn't seem so bad?
Another pertinent reminder, many of which have been underlined in the last 24 hrs, that the heart and soul of everything Charlton Athletic is to be found with and amongst us supporters and not amongst the transient staff of the Club, on and off the pitch, except where staff are supporters themselves.
I'd like to think that Chris Powell has the class to understand the role he plays and the place he has in us Addick's collective hearts, and should he ever find himself in the situation described above, he'd act with a little more respect for us. He is a class act.
I used to love Lennie and his status as a Charlton legend is rightfully assured. However, in my view he is a bit of an arrogant prick.
I didn't want to say anything as he is a Charlton legend. But in all honesty I came to the same conclusion, when he was at Bromley a couple of years ago, desperately trying to flog his book.
I was going to buy one before he started talking, but by the end, there was no way !
Different circumstances surrounding Gritt . He was effectively sacked by Charlton ,so I don't believe we can comment about what he did next .
Lawrence went north apparently to sign Alan Kernaghan for Charlton and ended up taking the Middlesbrough job and convincing him to stay put at Ayresome Park.
I was impressed when Curbs said at a function that when Crystal Palace made overtures to him a few years ago he laughed the suggestion off . He understood symbolically what it would mean to our fans if he took that job ,there is no real rivalry with West Ham and I don't think he would have been disrespectful if they had won when he returned as the Hammers boss in the crucial relegation clash . Pardew certainly respected the Whammers that day.
As said above I do think there comes a point where someone should show a bit more class in these situations and Lennie has gone down even further in my estimation .
But then what should Lennie have done at the final whistle, his team won a crucial game, their first away win for ages, when his and Friedman's positions may have been under threat?
It's not as give he ran across the pitch, and dived into the Jimmy Seed end to take their adulation!
I used to love Lennie and his status as a Charlton legend is rightfully assured. However, in my view he is a bit of an arrogant prick.
don't normally agree but this with knobs on.
From what was said when he was here then there is no change. However, he did wonders with this club and for that reason he us a legend. I did look over when they scored to see if he would celebrate and if he did if they would be muted celebrations. Sadly not, just like the rest.
We put people up on a pederstal, and more often than not that can later lead to disappointment.
Lennie was seen as Mr Charlton at one time, but the truth of the matter is Lennie is, and always has been, a football man and never a Charlton man.
Because that era was special to us we presume it was special to others involved. We then get disappointed when we realise that is just a job that has less emotional attachment than we thought.
But yes, the couple of Charlton meetings I've been to with Lennie in recent years I've not been impressed with how he come across.
As i said in the past , He is nothing but a F*****g school teacher come good hate the arsole with a passion, Hope hes next shit is a hedgehog.....Proper c***....
As i said in the past , He is nothing but a F*****g school teacher come good hate the arsole with a passion, Hope hes next shit is a hedgehog.....Proper c***....
The derisory offer of £200k he made for Robert Lee, when the boro manager, soon after he'd left us, knowing we were short of cash and looking to get back to the Valley was an insult to us as a club of the highest order
You can't buy class
But still performed a legendary job as Houdini for us
And I'm pretty certain there'd be a lot more anger/hatred towards Curbishley if he behaved anywhere like lennie has
Well said, Oggy - ''Lennie is a legend here, rightly so.He performed miracles in motivating his team to keep going against all the odds - and if he hadn't, maybe there would be no Charlton Athletic today.''
Some people will try to tarnish every great Charlton name.
Jimmy Seed - why have we named a stand after him when the rat went to Millwall?
Sam Bartram - what was he thinking, going to manage pond life at York City?
Alan Curbishley - never proper Charlton, always was a West Ham boy and got what he deserved when he took the manager's job there.
Keith Peacock - seven years at Gillingham? What a traitor.
The lack of respect is perhaps unsurprising because that's the world in which we now live. It's still disappointing, though.
Lennie and his colleagues had been working towards Friday night's game for two weeks, planning and strategising, hoping and dreaming of a win. It all came right for them and he smiled with the satisfaction of job done and slapped Dougie Freedman on the back. I'd have had a lower opinion of him if he'd looked glum and miserable and had gone over to the Charlton bench and said, ''Sorry, I really didn't want that to happen''.
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Lennie is a legend here, rightly so.
He performed miracles in motivating his team to keep going against all the odds - and if he hadn't, maybe there would be no Charlton Athletic today.
But it was still only a job.
Gritty worked for Millwall for a while, but somehow it didn't seem so bad?
Still a Charlton legend though -- up there with Seed and Curbs for me.
I'd like to think that Chris Powell has the class to understand the role he plays and the place he has in us Addick's collective hearts, and should he ever find himself in the situation described above, he'd act with a little more respect for us. He is a class act.
I was going to buy one before he started talking, but by the end, there was no way !
Lawrence went north apparently to sign Alan Kernaghan for Charlton and ended up taking the Middlesbrough job and convincing him to stay put at Ayresome Park.
I was impressed when Curbs said at a function that when Crystal Palace made overtures to him a few years ago he laughed the suggestion off . He understood symbolically what it would mean to our fans if he took that job ,there is no real rivalry with West Ham and I don't think he would have been disrespectful if they had won when he returned as the Hammers boss in the crucial relegation clash . Pardew certainly respected the Whammers that day.
As said above I do think there comes a point where someone should show a bit more class in these situations and Lennie has gone down even further in my estimation .
It's not as give he ran across the pitch, and dived into the Jimmy Seed end to take their adulation!
Lennie was seen as Mr Charlton at one time, but the truth of the matter is Lennie is, and always has been, a football man and never a Charlton man.
Because that era was special to us we presume it was special to others involved. We then get disappointed when we realise that is just a job that has less emotional attachment than we thought.
But yes, the couple of Charlton meetings I've been to with Lennie in recent years I've not been impressed with how he come across.
The derisory offer of £200k he made for Robert Lee, when the boro manager, soon after he'd left us, knowing we were short of cash and looking to get back to the Valley was an insult to us as a club of the highest order
You can't buy class
But still performed a legendary job as Houdini for us
And I'm pretty certain there'd be a lot more anger/hatred towards Curbishley if he behaved anywhere like lennie has
Some people will try to tarnish every great Charlton name.
Jimmy Seed - why have we named a stand after him when the rat went to Millwall?
Sam Bartram - what was he thinking, going to manage pond life at York City?
Alan Curbishley - never proper Charlton, always was a West Ham boy and got what he deserved when he took the manager's job there.
Keith Peacock - seven years at Gillingham? What a traitor.
The lack of respect is perhaps unsurprising because that's the world in which we now live. It's still disappointing, though.
Lennie and his colleagues had been working towards Friday night's game for two weeks, planning and strategising, hoping and dreaming of a win. It all came right for them and he smiled with the satisfaction of job done and slapped Dougie Freedman on the back. I'd have had a lower opinion of him if he'd looked glum and miserable and had gone over to the Charlton bench and said, ''Sorry, I really didn't want that to happen''.