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Last nights supporters

edited August 2012 in General Charlton
I went to the rowing at Eton Dorney and sat amongt Kiwis and Aussies. Had a great day with some friendly banter. Dreaded last night as at these games I seem to be haunted by drunken loudmouth tossers who spoil the game for me and put me on edge throughout. My son will stand up to anyone anywhere which sounds great, but sometimes it's best to keep quiet and tutt rather than stand up and tell someone to shut up. However, no such problem last night. There was more women than normal, and appeared to be more families. Next to us was an asian couple ( wife was pregnant ) who were both wearing Charlton shirts. They thoroughly enjoyed the game and I felt they may not have done a few years ago.
Made me wonder if things were changing. We all know the twats who think football is a game played by men and watched by men and we must all be working class and right geezers ( listen to Alan Brazil for confirmation). I suspect a change is coming , especially at our place.
Great feeling last night. Next tuesday the usuals will be back, around us they are a great crowd of people. Maybe the drunken fat rude ignorant racist twats are a dying breed?
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    I dunno, there was a group of muggy 12 year olds behind us who kept on daring eachother to start singing millwall songs and a couple of them even cheered when they scored the equaliser before running off down the steps to the concourse. Bloke near me in the second half told them to shut it in the end.

    I do think football crowds are changing though, just in the past 5 seasons I have seen a lot more young kids, families and women around us, what with the rising cost of the cinema, days out and other attractions, maybe it's simply because it's a more reasonable day out compared to Thorpe Park, the Sea Life Centre etc.?
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    masicat said:

    I seem to be haunted by drunken loudmouth tossers

    Sorry.
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    Interesting, I thought the crowds were changing for the worse over the past 10 years. Even in the upper north.
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    Sounds great. Can't wait for the hostile reception at The Valley this season....
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    edited August 2012

    Sounds great. Can't wait for the hostile reception at The Valley this season....

    ha ! Just watch out for flying flasks and rogue blankets SLL !! ;-)
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    I found last night involved some absolute moaners who insisted in wanting to put down everything we tried and predicting inevitable doom if we get 1-2 injuries in the season, if it goes to penalties, if Danny Green goes near the ball etc.

    Amazed I managed to hold myself back from telling em to p!ss off home.
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    Interesting, I thought the crowds were changing for the worse over the past 10 years. EvenEspecially in the upper north.

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    It's good in certain areas, but at the end of the day it is a sport watched by working class blokes. Fair dos if you don't want shit in the family stand and in the more "friendly areas" but when these complaints come from people in the north stand I have to say, "why are you here?" I hope the change isn't coming because for the most part we're a friendly club, if we take the last vestiges of.. erm spice? From our fanbase then we'd be no better than Fulham, and that is fucking embarrassing.
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    " Shit in the family stand" !!!!!!!

    I couldn't manage the seat cleaning this year but am now pleased I had to give it a miss !
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    Sounds like Fulham.

    Hope you're wrong!
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    Sounds great. Can't wait for the hostile reception at The Valley this season....

    Likewise for our trip to the den.

    Those kiddies In burberry reaking of joop are an intimidating bunch.

    You'll never make the station, they say...

    Absolutely sh$%iting my pants.

    Sparrows, please tell me the safest way out of the den, please.


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    well i suppose its good if you like to clap and sit in your seat but i for one like making a noise
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    SE10 said:

    Sounds like Fulham.

    Hope you're wrong!

    Sadly it's probably the way football is heading
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    Jarman said:

    Sounds great. Can't wait for the hostile reception at The Valley this season....

    Likewise for our trip to the den.

    Those kiddies In burberry reaking of joop are an intimidating bunch.

    You'll never make the station, they say...

    Absolutely sh$%iting my pants.

    Sparrows, please tell me the safest way out of the den, please.
    Probably out of the designated exit fella. Pretty obvious.
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    I thought the atmosphere at the game from our fans was sterile and utter dross for most of the game.

    Hope it livens up when the league games start as if we are moving towards a utopian love in with friendly banter and jolly backslapping and hair ruffling of oppo fans i'll find it horrible.

    Not saying we have to let flares off or make cut throat gestures to old ladies in the away end in but if we do end up as quaint like Fulham it will be a sad day imo.

    And just because I embrace football as a man's game and a working class sport it doesn't mean I'm a racist or ignorant twat.....although I am arguably fat and often drunk so Ill give you that one.
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    mparsons1 said:

    well i suppose its good if you like to clap and sit in your seat but i for one like making a noise

    Well said.
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    And just because I embrace football as a man's game and a working class sport it doesn't mean I'm a racist or ignorant twat.....although I am arguably fat and often drunk so Ill give you that one.

    Same here fella !!
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    Tried to make some noise but there's not many songs you can play using a metal fixing as a drum
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    Thats another annoying thing.

    Seems almost every football crowd needs a drum ffs to create an atmosphere!
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    cafctom said:

    I found last night involved some absolute moaners who insisted in wanting to put down everything we tried and predicting inevitable doom if we get 1-2 injuries in the season, if it goes to penalties, if Danny Green goes near the ball etc.
    Amazed I managed to hold myself back from telling em to p!ss off home.

    You must have been sitting with the CL clique, Tom ;-)

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    Timely thread for me - I'm thinking of taking by 4-year old boy to his first ever game, away to Forest (in/out-laws live in Notts, so have convinced Mrs she wants to visit her family that weekend), but not sure if that's the best idea as obviously away games have a different feel and you generally have to have your wits about you a little bit more than in the Family Stand at the Valley. Would appreciate thoughts, particularly from Lifers who've had similar situations - do I go for it at Forest or wait for something like Barnsley at home for the boy's induction to the glory of CAFC?
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    cafctom said:

    I found last night involved some absolute moaners who insisted in wanting to put down everything we tried and predicting inevitable doom if we get 1-2 injuries in the season, if it goes to penalties, if Danny Green goes near the ball etc.
    Amazed I managed to hold myself back from telling em to p!ss off home.

    You must have been sitting with the CL clique, Tom ;-)

    Quite possibly. We all know the League Cup is not the be all and end all but I don't understand why that sort of negativity has to be taken out on the team.
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    Timely thread for me - I'm thinking of taking by 4-year old boy to his first ever game, away to Forest (in/out-laws live in Notts, so have convinced Mrs she wants to visit her family that weekend), but not sure if that's the best idea as obviously away games have a different feel and you generally have to have your wits about you a little bit more than in the Family Stand at the Valley. Would appreciate thoughts, particularly from Lifers who've had similar situations - do I go for it at Forest or wait for something like Barnsley at home for the boy's induction to the glory of CAFC?

    Took my five year old nephew to Derby away as his first game many years ago - had great seats near the front behind goal with civilised people around us. But he still burst into tears when all the adults around him (including his aunt...) started shouting! So you never know...but might be worth the risk?
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    Working class mans sport? Why would it be that? It was, but it no longer is. We go every week to watch 11 millionaires play 11 millionaires watched by the billionaire owners. They humour us by serving pies and crappy hot dogs when most of us would prefer a Costa coffee and a ciabatta. Also, a place to sit and an ashtray. Maybe even a cheeky little sauvignon blanc ?
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    Timely thread for me - I'm thinking of taking by 4-year old boy to his first ever game, away to Forest (in/out-laws live in Notts, so have convinced Mrs she wants to visit her family that weekend), but not sure if that's the best idea as obviously away games have a different feel and you generally have to have your wits about you a little bit more than in the Family Stand at the Valley. Would appreciate thoughts, particularly from Lifers who've had similar situations - do I go for it at Forest or wait for something like Barnsley at home for the boy's induction to the glory of CAFC?

    Took my five year old nephew to Derby away as his first game many years ago - had great seats near the front behind goal with civilised people around us. But he still burst into tears when all the adults around him (including his aunt...) started shouting! So you never know...but might be worth the risk?
    Thanks WA - you could be right. Luckily in-laws live close by so if it starts to go a bit PT with him it won't be far to go if we need to leave. As long as there aren't any Sheff Wed away-type incidents of brave attacks on parents with kids (allegedly)!
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    Timely thread for me - I'm thinking of taking by 4-year old boy to his first ever game, away to Forest (in/out-laws live in Notts, so have convinced Mrs she wants to visit her family that weekend), but not sure if that's the best idea as obviously away games have a different feel and you generally have to have your wits about you a little bit more than in the Family Stand at the Valley. Would appreciate thoughts, particularly from Lifers who've had similar situations - do I go for it at Forest or wait for something like Barnsley at home for the boy's induction to the glory of CAFC?

    Taken my 5 and 7 year old boys to football for a couple of years now, they bloody love it.

    Biggest problem is limiting their soft drinks so you don't spend the whole game in the bogs, we brought their mate to a game last season (mainly because his mother has awesome norks) and I had to take him to the bogs FOUR times in the first half - missing both goals in a 1-1 draw.

    It does depend on the kid though, mine are tough little buggers but some others do find it a bit too much.
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    Timely thread for me - I'm thinking of taking by 4-year old boy to his first ever game, away to Forest (in/out-laws live in Notts, so have convinced Mrs she wants to visit her family that weekend), but not sure if that's the best idea as obviously away games have a different feel and you generally have to have your wits about you a little bit more than in the Family Stand at the Valley. Would appreciate thoughts, particularly from Lifers who've had similar situations - do I go for it at Forest or wait for something like Barnsley at home for the boy's induction to the glory of CAFC?

    Forest fans seem ok these days. Not had any trouble from them for a while. You would still need to be careful.
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    Biggest problem is limiting their soft drinks so you don't spend the whole game in the bogs, we brought their mate to a game last season (mainly because his mother has awesome norks) and I had to take him to the bogs FOUR times in the first half - missing both goals in a 1-1 draw.
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    Seems a legit reason, Ormiston.
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    Working class this, middle class that. Yawn. Can't we just enjoy things without putting these labels on them
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    From where I was sat we have the best supporters in the land?
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