How an earth do you figure the link between a bigger home = small away percentage, the likes of Leeds and Wednesday took well over 4%, in fact more like 10-12%.
Our home areas only provide 14,000 seats - it's the away end where the sea of empty seats are.
How an earth do you figure the link between a bigger home = small away percentage, the likes of Leeds and Wednesday took well over 4%, in fact more like 10-12%.
Our home areas only provide 14,000 seats - it's the away end where the sea of empty seats are.
Let me get this straight you give 6,000 seats up for away fans????
How an earth do you figure the link between a bigger home = small away percentage, the likes of Leeds and Wednesday took well over 4%, in fact more like 10-12%.
Our home areas only provide 14,000 seats - it's the away end where the sea of empty seats are.
I wasn't referencing all clubs, I was talking about Charlton. When we were playing our home games at Selhurst and Upton Parks our away numbers percentage would have been much higher (in comparison to our home attendances)....the fact is that our newly gained (or returning) extra home fans haven't converted (in the main) to those that travel away too.
Heading up there with a mate. Hoping for a naughty little day, maybe a fight or two, getting bang on the sniff before kick off, giving it the big one to any 12 year old who walks in my path, and maybe even throwing some chairs at the family stand in the home end.
Heading up there with a mate. Hoping for a naughty little day, maybe a fight or two, getting bang on the sniff before kick off, giving it the big one to any 12 year old who walks in my path, and maybe even throwing some chairs at the family stand in the home end.
PM me if you're interested.
Has bunny pm'd you yet
Can't wait for brum now. On the 9.23 out of euston. Getting to brum early doors. Hopefully hitting the town after with a massive smile on my face
What happened after the game has been subject to much questioning and conjecture, so let me try and clear it up as someone who saw it all unfold first hand. Having endured some fairly harmless banter throughout the evening, a section of the home supporters decided that after the game they were going to do something about it. I mean, the Marlon King abuse was worse, and a little tiresome in the end I might add.
Anyhow, as we were leaving the ground, there was a slightly heated argument going on between a couple of Barnet fans and a group of maybe ten or so young lads from Birmingham. What appeared to be pretty innocuous at first clearly wasn't as whatever was said served to wind up the said ten, and encourage more to join it. It soon became apparent that we weren't going home any time soon as the handful of stewards struggled to handle a mounting situation. More arrived, but one lad managed to make his way through, past me and aim a kick at thin air before retreating. Oh good.
With more stewards arriving, it appeared their primary aim was to shut the gate and make the crowd outside disperse. The problem now was that they were dealing with far more kids who were looking for trouble. Frantic radio messages were being relayed as we were asked to move back inside. Oddly, the stewards then moved back without closing the gates, which of course invited the youngsters to follow. It seemed pretty clear that none of these lads had any intention of trying to break through the line and attack anyone, but tell that to the vast majority of Barnet fans, many with their young children, who just wanted to go home. One lad slipped through the net. One brave, heroic lad. The one you could rely on when times were tough. Evading the stewards like Houdini himself, he strolled up bold as brass, shoulders swaggering and hips swaying. With clear intent in his eyes, he set himself upon his target. Walking past me at pace, he went for someone who was barely involved in the incident. With fearsome might, he pushed through thin air and made contact with his polo shirt. After this incredible display in the art of hand to hand combat, he moved back away from us at a pace an Olympian would have been proud of, his arms out wide as if to say "Did you see that? Did you see how hard I am?". It might have been one of the most absurd things I have ever seen.
Talking of the Olympics, a fortnight of huge pride for the nation after such an effort from our athletes, I was so glad to see that those values and sentiment were continued in this little pocket of Great Britain last night.
What this will unfortunately do is sour the experience of Birmingham City FC for all involved with Barnet. No reasonable individual could label all Blues fans under the same bracket as this handful of children, however this surreal end to the evening will stay in the memory. It is worth noting that the actions of some Barnet fans undoubtedly added fuel to the fire and helped cause an entirely avoidable situation. Eventually, with a seemingly more robust security team arriving, the gates were closed and the situation was diffused. It was a shame that the Birmingham stewarding team were not quicker to react to a mounting sitation, and indeed there’s a question mark over where the police were in this whole incident. Barnet’s police have been hot on our games for many years, but they were nowhere to be seen tonight.
I guess I was one of the fortunate ones, and perhaps I should not be so blasé about it considering that once the supporters coaches were allowed to leave, they came under fire from the dispersed youths. Windows were supposedly smashed and cracked. As if this whole incident wasn't moronic enough. It seems a shame that I have to dedicate almost as much space to this as I have the football. It was largely an awful lot of jumping around and shouting in effect, however this incident with the coach makes it plenty more serious.
Anyhow, it was a strange end to what was an entertaining evening. To any onlooker who peruses the scores this morning, it looks like a standard drubbing, but that wouldn't tell the entire story. Yes we were outclassed eventually, but we gave a good account of ourselves and it certainly leaves me feeling a little more optimistic about our prospects for the season. Room for improvement of course, however if the events of last night were anything to go by, it should be an interesting season if nothing else.
What happened after the game has been subject to much questioning and conjecture, so let me try and clear it up as someone who saw it all unfold first hand. Having endured some fairly harmless banter throughout the evening, a section of the home supporters decided that after the game they were going to do something about it. I mean, the Marlon King abuse was worse, and a little tiresome in the end I might add.
Anyhow, as we were leaving the ground, there was a slightly heated argument going on between a couple of Barnet fans and a group of maybe ten or so young lads from Birmingham. What appeared to be pretty innocuous at first clearly wasn't as whatever was said served to wind up the said ten, and encourage more to join it. It soon became apparent that we weren't going home any time soon as the handful of stewards struggled to handle a mounting situation. More arrived, but one lad managed to make his way through, past me and aim a kick at thin air before retreating. Oh good.
With more stewards arriving, it appeared their primary aim was to shut the gate and make the crowd outside disperse. The problem now was that they were dealing with far more kids who were looking for trouble. Frantic radio messages were being relayed as we were asked to move back inside. Oddly, the stewards then moved back without closing the gates, which of course invited the youngsters to follow. It seemed pretty clear that none of these lads had any intention of trying to break through the line and attack anyone, but tell that to the vast majority of Barnet fans, many with their young children, who just wanted to go home. One lad slipped through the net. One brave, heroic lad. The one you could rely on when times were tough. Evading the stewards like Houdini himself, he strolled up bold as brass, shoulders swaggering and hips swaying. With clear intent in his eyes, he set himself upon his target. Walking past me at pace, he went for someone who was barely involved in the incident. With fearsome might, he pushed through thin air and made contact with his polo shirt. After this incredible display in the art of hand to hand combat, he moved back away from us at a pace an Olympian would have been proud of, his arms out wide as if to say "Did you see that? Did you see how hard I am?". It might have been one of the most absurd things I have ever seen.
Talking of the Olympics, a fortnight of huge pride for the nation after such an effort from our athletes, I was so glad to see that those values and sentiment were continued in this little pocket of Great Britain last night.
What this will unfortunately do is sour the experience of Birmingham City FC for all involved with Barnet. No reasonable individual could label all Blues fans under the same bracket as this handful of children, however this surreal end to the evening will stay in the memory. It is worth noting that the actions of some Barnet fans undoubtedly added fuel to the fire and helped cause an entirely avoidable situation. Eventually, with a seemingly more robust security team arriving, the gates were closed and the situation was diffused. It was a shame that the Birmingham stewarding team were not quicker to react to a mounting sitation, and indeed there’s a question mark over where the police were in this whole incident. Barnet’s police have been hot on our games for many years, but they were nowhere to be seen tonight.
I guess I was one of the fortunate ones, and perhaps I should not be so blasé about it considering that once the supporters coaches were allowed to leave, they came under fire from the dispersed youths. Windows were supposedly smashed and cracked. As if this whole incident wasn't moronic enough. It seems a shame that I have to dedicate almost as much space to this as I have the football. It was largely an awful lot of jumping around and shouting in effect, however this incident with the coach makes it plenty more serious.
Anyhow, it was a strange end to what was an entertaining evening. To any onlooker who peruses the scores this morning, it looks like a standard drubbing, but that wouldn't tell the entire story. Yes we were outclassed eventually, but we gave a good account of ourselves and it certainly leaves me feeling a little more optimistic about our prospects for the season. Room for improvement of course, however if the events of last night were anything to go by, it should be an interesting season if nothing else.
What happened after the game has been subject to much questioning and conjecture, so let me try and clear it up as someone who saw it all unfold first hand. Having endured some fairly harmless banter throughout the evening, a section of the home supporters decided that after the game they were going to do something about it. I mean, the Marlon King abuse was worse, and a little tiresome in the end I might add.
Anyhow, as we were leaving the ground, there was a slightly heated argument going on between a couple of Barnet fans and a group of maybe ten or so young lads from Birmingham. What appeared to be pretty innocuous at first clearly wasn't as whatever was said served to wind up the said ten, and encourage more to join it. It soon became apparent that we weren't going home any time soon as the handful of stewards struggled to handle a mounting situation. More arrived, but one lad managed to make his way through, past me and aim a kick at thin air before retreating. Oh good.
With more stewards arriving, it appeared their primary aim was to shut the gate and make the crowd outside disperse. The problem now was that they were dealing with far more kids who were looking for trouble. Frantic radio messages were being relayed as we were asked to move back inside. Oddly, the stewards then moved back without closing the gates, which of course invited the youngsters to follow. It seemed pretty clear that none of these lads had any intention of trying to break through the line and attack anyone, but tell that to the vast majority of Barnet fans, many with their young children, who just wanted to go home. One lad slipped through the net. One brave, heroic lad. The one you could rely on when times were tough. Evading the stewards like Houdini himself, he strolled up bold as brass, shoulders swaggering and hips swaying. With clear intent in his eyes, he set himself upon his target. Walking past me at pace, he went for someone who was barely involved in the incident. With fearsome might, he pushed through thin air and made contact with his polo shirt. After this incredible display in the art of hand to hand combat, he moved back away from us at a pace an Olympian would have been proud of, his arms out wide as if to say "Did you see that? Did you see how hard I am?". It might have been one of the most absurd things I have ever seen.
Talking of the Olympics, a fortnight of huge pride for the nation after such an effort from our athletes, I was so glad to see that those values and sentiment were continued in this little pocket of Great Britain last night.
What this will unfortunately do is sour the experience of Birmingham City FC for all involved with Barnet. No reasonable individual could label all Blues fans under the same bracket as this handful of children, however this surreal end to the evening will stay in the memory. It is worth noting that the actions of some Barnet fans undoubtedly added fuel to the fire and helped cause an entirely avoidable situation. Eventually, with a seemingly more robust security team arriving, the gates were closed and the situation was diffused. It was a shame that the Birmingham stewarding team were not quicker to react to a mounting sitation, and indeed there’s a question mark over where the police were in this whole incident. Barnet’s police have been hot on our games for many years, but they were nowhere to be seen tonight.
I guess I was one of the fortunate ones, and perhaps I should not be so blasé about it considering that once the supporters coaches were allowed to leave, they came under fire from the dispersed youths. Windows were supposedly smashed and cracked. As if this whole incident wasn't moronic enough. It seems a shame that I have to dedicate almost as much space to this as I have the football. It was largely an awful lot of jumping around and shouting in effect, however this incident with the coach makes it plenty more serious.
Anyhow, it was a strange end to what was an entertaining evening. To any onlooker who peruses the scores this morning, it looks like a standard drubbing, but that wouldn't tell the entire story. Yes we were outclassed eventually, but we gave a good account of ourselves and it certainly leaves me feeling a little more optimistic about our prospects for the season. Room for improvement of course, however if the events of last night were anything to go by, it should be an interesting season if nothing else.
How an earth do you figure the link between a bigger home = small away percentage, the likes of Leeds and Wednesday took well over 4%, in fact more like 10-12%.
Our home areas only provide 14,000 seats - it's the away end where the sea of empty seats are.
Given the two ends are the same and capacity is about 20,000, that would mean you had about 12,000 seats behind the goals and 8,000 along the sides. Actually, it's the other way round.
Of course that doesn't account for home seats you're not allowed to use . . .
Again, not wanting to knock you or come across as a troll - but genuinely thought you would have sold this out a week ago.
you obviously over estimate our away support
Well, I did see on the football league website that you rarely take more than 4% of your average home gate to away games - one of the lowest in the entire FL.
Why tho? Especially when you lot love trains. Seriously though, why is that?
Well I don't think Millwall sell theirs out every weekend. Let's be honest, the majority of your fan base are teenage chavs who think they are macho for supporting Millwall.
Quite refreshing to see a Millwall fan take so much notice in a Charlton forum. Shows how much Millwall wish they were like Charlton... Big kiss x
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Our home areas only provide 14,000 seats - it's the away end where the sea of empty seats are.
Hoping for a naughty little day, maybe a fight or two, getting bang on the sniff before kick off, giving it the big one to any 12 year old who walks in my path, and maybe even throwing some chairs at the family stand in the home end.
PM me if you're interested.
Can't wait for brum now. On the 9.23 out of euston. Getting to brum early doors. Hopefully hitting the town after with a massive smile on my face
On the 9.23, big drink in town then 3 points
it was kids for a quid so there was a massive chav element apparently. saturday they wont go and it'll be sweet.
be a good day out.
What happened after the game has been subject to much questioning and conjecture, so let me try and clear it up as someone who saw it all unfold first hand. Having endured some fairly harmless banter throughout the evening, a section of the home supporters decided that after the game they were going to do something about it. I mean, the Marlon King abuse was worse, and a little tiresome in the end I might add.
Anyhow, as we were leaving the ground, there was a slightly heated argument going on between a couple of Barnet fans and a group of maybe ten or so young lads from Birmingham. What appeared to be pretty innocuous at first clearly wasn't as whatever was said served to wind up the said ten, and encourage more to join it. It soon became apparent that we weren't going home any time soon as the handful of stewards struggled to handle a mounting situation. More arrived, but one lad managed to make his way through, past me and aim a kick at thin air before retreating. Oh good.
With more stewards arriving, it appeared their primary aim was to shut the gate and make the crowd outside disperse. The problem now was that they were dealing with far more kids who were looking for trouble. Frantic radio messages were being relayed as we were asked to move back inside. Oddly, the stewards then moved back without closing the gates, which of course invited the youngsters to follow. It seemed pretty clear that none of these lads had any intention of trying to break through the line and attack anyone, but tell that to the vast majority of Barnet fans, many with their young children, who just wanted to go home. One lad slipped through the net. One brave, heroic lad. The one you could rely on when times were tough. Evading the stewards like Houdini himself, he strolled up bold as brass, shoulders swaggering and hips swaying. With clear intent in his eyes, he set himself upon his target. Walking past me at pace, he went for someone who was barely involved in the incident. With fearsome might, he pushed through thin air and made contact with his polo shirt. After this incredible display in the art of hand to hand combat, he moved back away from us at a pace an Olympian would have been proud of, his arms out wide as if to say "Did you see that? Did you see how hard I am?". It might have been one of the most absurd things I have ever seen.
Talking of the Olympics, a fortnight of huge pride for the nation after such an effort from our athletes, I was so glad to see that those values and sentiment were continued in this little pocket of Great Britain last night.
What this will unfortunately do is sour the experience of Birmingham City FC for all involved with Barnet. No reasonable individual could label all Blues fans under the same bracket as this handful of children, however this surreal end to the evening will stay in the memory. It is worth noting that the actions of some Barnet fans undoubtedly added fuel to the fire and helped cause an entirely avoidable situation. Eventually, with a seemingly more robust security team arriving, the gates were closed and the situation was diffused. It was a shame that the Birmingham stewarding team were not quicker to react to a mounting sitation, and indeed there’s a question mark over where the police were in this whole incident. Barnet’s police have been hot on our games for many years, but they were nowhere to be seen tonight.
I guess I was one of the fortunate ones, and perhaps I should not be so blasé about it considering that once the supporters coaches were allowed to leave, they came under fire from the dispersed youths. Windows were supposedly smashed and cracked. As if this whole incident wasn't moronic enough. It seems a shame that I have to dedicate almost as much space to this as I have the football. It was largely an awful lot of jumping around and shouting in effect, however this incident with the coach makes it plenty more serious.
Anyhow, it was a strange end to what was an entertaining evening. To any onlooker who peruses the scores this morning, it looks like a standard drubbing, but that wouldn't tell the entire story. Yes we were outclassed eventually, but we gave a good account of ourselves and it certainly leaves me feeling a little more optimistic about our prospects for the season. Room for improvement of course, however if the events of last night were anything to go by, it should be an interesting season if nothing else.
Of course that doesn't account for home seats you're not allowed to use . . .
Quite refreshing to see a Millwall fan take so much notice in a Charlton forum. Shows how much Millwall wish they were like Charlton...
Big kiss x
98 was an exception, when have we ever taken more than 1k to Brum?