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Next CAST startup meeting:Tuesday 24th July 2012 7:30pm Con Club, Charlton

edited July 2012 in General Charlton
Please don't be put off if you missed the first startup meeting for Charlton Athletic Supporter Trust, we still need people willing to put in hard graft and dedication to this project for it to succeed who can commit to this.

Please email me castenq@gmail.com if needed or inbox me on here

we are also on twitter @CAStrust


Thanks

Barnie (interim chair)
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    Now more than ever will clubs wished they had one of these set up when the s*** hits the proverbial.
    Football for the fans.
    Wish you all the best in your endeavors
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    I will not miss this one.
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    Raz: Sorry I couldn't make the last one, really hopeful to be there on the 24th: Depending on venue.
    MoG.
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    depending on location, I'll do my best to be there.
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    If the date is not changed, then im a yes
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    Has anyone thought about having the meetings before Saturday home games once a month?
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    Has anyone thought about having the meetings before Saturday home games once a month?
    Sounds like a good constructive idea to me on a couple of levels.
    1. People have Charlton on there mind, having made a commitment to go to the game
    2. It would be a good access point of fans who could find out more about the trust, and get involved themselves.

    I think it is very important that the trust is seen as an inclusive gateway to support the club in the long term.

    So......... anyone got any contact details such as the conservative club or liberal club that are Charlton friendly and that could be approached to let us use part of there premises. Probably have to keep the meeting's to a limited time say 30 minutes, and delegate the details to 'working groups' to report back. People might have kids or on a tight time scale, and people do like myself do like a drink before the match.

    Give me a inbox and I will contact the relevant person/organisation........and see if this can be put into action.
    Of course I expect the above poster above to be pro active having suggested this.........


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    Has anyone thought about having the meetings before Saturday home games once a month?
    Sounds like a good constructive idea to me on a couple of levels.
    1. People have Charlton on there mind, having made a commitment to go to the game
    2. It would be a good access point of fans who could find out more about the trust, and get involved themselves.

    I think it is very important that the trust is seen as an inclusive gateway to support the club in the long term.

    So......... anyone got any contact details such as the conservative club or liberal club that are Charlton friendly and that could be approached to let us use part of there premises. Probably have to keep the meeting's to a limited time say 30 minutes, and delegate the details to 'working groups' to report back. People might have kids or on a tight time scale, and people do like myself do like a drink before the match.

    Give me a inbox and I will contact the relevant person/organisation........and see if this can be put into action.
    Of course I expect the above poster above to be pro active having suggested this.........


    I really like this idea. Coming up from Kent to meetings is very costly and this would help considerably.

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    edited July 2012
    I am more than willing to present this idea however i can see problems with as well as some good points.

    I personally feel the match day experience should be separate, and the Trust meetings normally on a different time and date, we need people who are committed with enough spare time to make the separate journey and can deal with the inconvenience. I know this will rule some people out but there are other ways for folk to contribute including ideas on forums, and other ways. It is however up to the trust to decide this, and it might be more appropriate for an AGM, but then that might have time issues too. Would you want to miss kick off if the meeting overran.

    Anyway we will work on ways of making the Trust as open and inclusive as possible but this must be in a way that does not inhibit its effectiveness.

    Depending on how things go we may need to do some pre match activity though, so hold that thought

    BR

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    I think the match days might be difficult for those that have children, or a routine that they like. However, I do think that excluding those that don't have more time than they can spare from being involved would be a mistake.

    I'm guessing that is not what you meant Razil, but for this to work , really work, I think all need to be welcome. If this is going to turn into (and I'm no saying that it will) another of those things that is only going to welcome those in the clique, or those that have the same views then it will struggle. There are just not enough members of the CL Clique to either fund or run something that is going to be able to make any contribution at all.
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    Once the Trust gets going, matchdays will have to be used to get membership up.
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    There are just not enough members of the CL Clique to either fund or run something that is going to be able to make any contribution at all.
    I completely agree.

    However I would also say please be patient, this needs to work and be given time to work, paricularly while we go about the unglamorous work of setting everything up. So I humbly ask people to reserve judgement for the finished product, and come to meetings and give your time if you can in that way or by making suggestions, etc.

    BR
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    I think all need to be welcome. If this is going to turn into (and I'm no saying that it will) another of those things that is only going to welcome those in the clique, or those that have the same views then it will struggle. There are just not enough members of the CL Clique to either fund or run something that is going to be able to make any contribution at all.
    Not really understanding this. Is there any indication that this would be anything other than inclusive? What's with the Clique Chip?

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    Quite right Lookout. I really believe that some people on here could have a row in an empty house.
    The first meeting, and in fact the second one, has never been advertised as a "clique only" event. It's been open to one and all to attend.
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    It was in response to Razil suggesting that they need people that can commit enough time to get to the meetings.

    I was making the point that those that can't drive all the way up from Kent for these meetings as well as for matches shouldn't be made to feel as though they are not included. I made the comparison with the CL clique (and I did say that I didn't expect it to happen) because there is a risk that the events will be social and those that don't know many people that a going might not be inclined to go along.
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    Why not just attend rather than look for excuses about what might happen ? I appreciate that not everyone can attend any type of meeting for whatever reason but, although I don't really know anyone on here, I travelled up from Hastings to go to the meeting the other night ( not that I contributed!).
    At no time did I worry about it being a cliquey social event.
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    It was in response to Razil suggesting that they need people that can commit enough time to get to the meetings.

    I was making the point that those that can't drive all the way up from Kent for these meetings as well as for matches shouldn't be made to feel as though they are not included. I made the comparison with the CL clique (and I did say that I didn't expect it to happen) because there is a risk that the events will be social and those that don't know many people that a going might not be inclined to go along.
    The CL clique is merely an urban myth.

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    Why not just attend rather than look for excuses about what might happen ? I appreciate that not everyone can attend any type of meeting for whatever reason but, although I don't really know anyone on here, I travelled up from Hastings to go to the meeting the other night ( not that I contributed!).
    At no time did I worry about it being a cliquey social event.
    It's difficult for me to get to the meetings. I'm also not sure I have the time to committ to it right now.
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    Then what point are you making then ?

    At this stage, this is mainly about forming a committee, assuming roles, responsibilities, setting aims and objectives etc.

    How can you get absorbed in that if you're not prepared / can't make meetings ??
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    Has anyone thought about having the meetings before Saturday home games once a month?
    Sounds like a good constructive idea to me on a couple of levels.
    1. People have Charlton on there mind, having made a commitment to go to the game
    2. It would be a good access point of fans who could find out more about the trust, and get involved themselves.

    I think it is very important that the trust is seen as an inclusive gateway to support the club in the long term.

    So......... anyone got any contact details such as the conservative club or liberal club that are Charlton friendly and that could be approached to let us use part of there premises. Probably have to keep the meeting's to a limited time say 30 minutes, and delegate the details to 'working groups' to report back. People might have kids or on a tight time scale, and people do like myself do like a drink before the match.

    Give me a inbox and I will contact the relevant person/organisation........and see if this can be put into action.
    Of course I expect the above poster above to be pro active having suggested this.........



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    Thanks, appreciated.
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    Apparently its still okay to use the Lib this season:
    Contact Adele through the FB page if needed.
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    Apparently its still okay to use the Lib this season:
    Contact Adele through the FB page if needed.
    Or her record company.

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    Tried ringing the con last week, when are they most likely to answer the phone
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    A couple of reasons why I don't think holding meetings on match days are the best idea;
    1) For the local pubs, where meetings would normally take place, are likely to see match days as pretty much their busiest 23 times of the year. How (and more importantly why) would they be able to give us a seperate room/area when they struggle to accommodate their clientele as it is ?
    2) Matchdays are definately a great idea for driving involvement through membership and engagement. However even if we did have a venue for meetings on Matchdays it would be difficult to get people in the room who are truly engaged rather than just turning up for a chat which would quickly eat up the hour and mean very little productive gets done.

    However I agree that Matchdays represent a great way of "spreading the message" and we need to think about how we can use this oppertunity to the best of our abilities.
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    A couple of reasons why I don't think holding meetings on match days are the best idea;
    1) For the local pubs, where meetings would normally take place, are likely to see match days as pretty much their busiest 23 times of the year. How (and more importantly why) would they be able to give us a seperate room/area when they struggle to accommodate their clientele as it is ?
    2) Matchdays are definately a great idea for driving involvement through membership and engagement. However even if we did have a venue for meetings on Matchdays it would be difficult to get people in the room who are truly engaged rather than just turning up for a chat which would quickly eat up the hour and mean very little productive gets done.

    However I agree that Matchdays represent a great way of "spreading the message" and we need to think about how we can use this oppertunity to the best of our abilities.
    Re "spreading the message".....

    IMHO we need to aim for a flyer/leaflet to hand out to supporters on their way into home games, once the aims etc of the ST group have been discussed & decided. This should be as informative as possible , with contact details of those acting as "officials", date of next meeting etc.

    Or a flyer could be produced before this point has been reached ie asking for people's ideas etc and inviting everyone to the next meeting where more viewpoints can be expressed.

    At present, the only supporters aware of the proposed ST are Lifers and their contacts. We need to ensure that ALL supporters are aware of the group and have an opportunity to become involved. The Club could also be approached to request that a piece be input into an early season match programme, echoing the contents of the aforementioned flyer. Hand in hand with this , in an ideal world, would be a ST website of course for everyone to view ...

    All this has probably been discussed already- if so, apologies to those concerned.
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    A couple of reasons why I don't think holding meetings on match days are the best idea;
    1) For the local pubs, where meetings would normally take place, are likely to see match days as pretty much their busiest 23 times of the year. How (and more importantly why) would they be able to give us a seperate room/area when they struggle to accommodate their clientele as it is ?
    2) Matchdays are definately a great idea for driving involvement through membership and engagement. However even if we did have a venue for meetings on Matchdays it would be difficult to get people in the room who are truly engaged rather than just turning up for a chat which would quickly eat up the hour and mean very little productive gets done.

    However I agree that Matchdays represent a great way of "spreading the message" and we need to think about how we can use this oppertunity to the best of our abilities.
    Re "spreading the message".....

    IMHO we need to aim for a flyer/leaflet to hand out to supporters on their way into home games, once the aims etc of the ST group have been discussed & decided. This should be as informative as possible , with contact details of those acting as "officials", date of next meeting etc.

    Or a flyer could be produced before this point has been reached ie asking for people's ideas etc and inviting everyone to the next meeting where more viewpoints can be expressed.

    At present, the only supporters aware of the proposed ST are Lifers and their contacts. We need to ensure that ALL supporters are aware of the group and have an opportunity to become involved. The Club could also be approached to request that a piece be input into an early season match programme, echoing the contents of the aforementioned flyer. Hand in hand with this , in an ideal world, would be a ST website of course for everyone to view ...

    All this has probably been discussed already- if so, apologies to those concerned.
    No you're quite right, but first I think we need to establish the trust and more importantly we need to establish what the goals of that trust are, which will be agreed at the meeting on the 24th.

    A website, Facebook and Twitter as well as forums such as this are all going to be extremely useful but we need a strategy defining how we engage with our "off line" community as well.
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    Sorry everyone, won't be available for this meeting. But CAST still has my full support.
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    I hope a supporters trust can work fully hand in hand with the parent club as at Swansea. However if we get information in the programme (which would be a great way of contacting people) in the early stages, would it not compromise the initial independent status of any trust and look like a club initiative?
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