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Jonjo Shelvey
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He’s had a great career, 250+ appearances in the top flight and capped by his country is better than most players end up with.3
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10 being what? Lampard, Gerrard, Shearer, Ronaldo?mendonca said:Brilliant? How would you rate it out of 10?
I'd say 7 out of 10, impactful, exciting cult hero. Made things happen not a stereotypical academy product.
I'm not entirely into splitting hairs over words, you are allowed to disagree and say he was shit, never rated him and I'm allowed to strongly disagree, makes football and the world beautiful4 -
I personally think that liverpool move kind of hurt him a bit early on because people were trying to measure him against Gerrard - when really (ironically) he was a bit of a Bowyer - a baller with an edge.Carter said:
10 being what? Lampard, Gerrard, Shearer, Ronaldo?mendonca said:Brilliant? How would you rate it out of 10?
I'd say 7 out of 10, impactful, exciting cult hero. Made things happen not a stereotypical academy product.
I'm not entirely into splitting hairs over words, you are allowed to disagree and say he was shit, never rated him and I'm allowed to strongly disagree, makes football and the world beautiful
I dunno maybe i'm off base but just how i've always seen him particularly when he found his home at Newcastle. I don't think its a coincidence that they both ended up there and did well and were well liked.
Surprised Leeds never went in for him at some point as well (I guess they were down with us in league 1 at the time)2 -
Yeah hindsight and all that, although to be honest training and being around someone like Gerrard who played the game in a very similar way would have been too good to pass up and I totally understand him making that choice, I do see the Bowyer comparison as well. Talk to anyone who played with or against Lee Bowyer and they will tell you he was a class act midfielder, I really wish we had gone all out to sign him again when Parker left us in the shit. He was never going to sign for West Ham or Tottenham and he was definitely not a Wenger player I reckon Ferguson had loads of respect for him after Jonjo gave an honest assessment of his character in the game he got sent off but that would have been a hard sell. I know Swansea fans adored him as did Newcastle fans, Forest, he was never going to get on with Steve Cooper. Leeds last season would have been a great move indeed their fans would have lapped him up, Bielsa wouldn't have gone near him thoughManic_mania said:
I personally think that liverpool move kind of hurt him a bit early on because people were trying to measure him against Gerrard - when really (ironically) he was a bit of a Bowyer - a baller with an edge.Carter said:
10 being what? Lampard, Gerrard, Shearer, Ronaldo?mendonca said:Brilliant? How would you rate it out of 10?
I'd say 7 out of 10, impactful, exciting cult hero. Made things happen not a stereotypical academy product.
I'm not entirely into splitting hairs over words, you are allowed to disagree and say he was shit, never rated him and I'm allowed to strongly disagree, makes football and the world beautiful
I dunno maybe i'm off base but just how i've always seen him particularly when he found his home at Newcastle. I don't think its a coincidence that they both ended up there and did well and were well liked.
Surprised Leeds never went in for him at some point as well (I guess they were down with us in league 1 at the time)
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Is he Jewish? Just wondered how the hell he didn’t go to Saudi Arabia on massive wages with all the other washed up has beens. ( I always liked him though ). The only person I’ve ever seen who claps with his wrists.1
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Had a good career at the top level and considering he was playing men's football at 16, has done well to play 15 years in mainly the Premier since leaving Cafc.
His career tailed off in the last 18 months but he is set up for life and should be able earn plenty more in the next 2 to 3 years fitness allowing, in the League's that love the over 30's that are just a tad over the hill.
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Alexei smertinIan Nightingale said:
Jonjo after 3 months in Turkey (sent from my Forest mate)3 -
jonjo has had a decent career but it could have been so much better if he just got out of his own way. He has had a falling out with many of the managers he has played for, the reckless challenges in bad areas of the pitch, unnecessary cards, trying the hollywood pass when the simple one would do. If he just had more personal discipline, he could have been performing at highest level. That being said, he is probably the most talented kid to come out of our academy in the last twenty years and I hope he does well in Turkey1
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I see what you did there 😂Carter said:
10 being what? Lampard, Gerrard, Shearer, Ronaldo?mendonca said:Brilliant? How would you rate it out of 10?
I'd say 7 out of 10, impactful, exciting cult hero. Made things happen not a stereotypical academy product.
I'm not entirely into splitting hairs over words, you are allowed to disagree and say he was shit, never rated him and I'm allowed to strongly disagree, makes football and the world beautiful1 -
31 is not old for a footballer and I wouldn't call him over the hill.The forest move didn't work out because he didn't get on with the manager, these things happen.0
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More like a bird from the millerskentaddick said:
Alexei smertinIan Nightingale said:Jonjo after 3 months in Turkey (sent from my Forest mate)2 -
Great pace on that strike.0
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Excellent from Jonjo and Çaykur Rizespor are the Turkish delight who benefited from Shelvey's ambition of an up and under from the half way line.
I remember he tried that for Cafc at the valley and I thought the ball ended up on the top of the net 🤔0 -
Signed for Burnley for the rest of the season.
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He should've come home. Unfinished business and all that.........1
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Managed by Scott Parker and in a midfield with Josh Cullen.KBslittlesis said:Signed for Burnley for the rest of the season.2 -
I didn’t realise he was still playing! Best of luck to him, hope he does well
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https://x.com/footballtweet/status/2008461740955062345?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g🗣️ Jonjo Shelvey: "When I went to Turkey, I lived alone for 18 months. It was the hardest period of my life. I became addicted to sleeping pills. I’d come home from training and time just wouldn’t pass.The city was predominantly Muslim, with only three restaurants. There were basically three things you could do: Starbucks, McDonald’s, Domino’s. I’d come home, stare at the four walls, and to kill time I’d take three or four sleeping pills and pass out. The next morning, straight back to training — just to make time pass.Then it turned into an addiction. I moved to Istanbul and it was livelier. You could go out, but I was still on my own. I’m not the type to go out alone — I hate loneliness.I said to myself, “If this keeps up, I’ll either turn to booze or the pills.” Booze isn’t good for a footballer, so instead of drinking I stuck with the pills. “At least I won’t gain weight,” I thought.I’d turn up to training around 1pm. I’d eat at 3pm and that would be my last meal. Then I’d take three or four pills. I’d wake up around midnight, take three or four more — then go to morning training.Honestly, it ruined my relationship with my kids. I was mentally absent. I think this is the first time I’ve ever spoken about it.I was lucky — my wife is a really good woman. She basically shook me out of it. It was really tough. I was so lonely. That’s why I was taking the pills — just to pass the time." 🇹🇷💊
Well done to him for speaking up about a tough time in his life and addiction30 -
I thought he was a bit odd.Callumcafc said:https://x.com/footballtweet/status/2008461740955062345?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g🗣️ Jonjo Shelvey: "When I went to Turkey, I lived alone for 18 months. It was the hardest period of my life. I became addicted to sleeping pills. I’d come home from training and time just wouldn’t pass.The city was predominantly Muslim, with only three restaurants. There were basically three things you could do: Starbucks, McDonald’s, Domino’s. I’d come home, stare at the four walls, and to kill time I’d take three or four sleeping pills and pass out. The next morning, straight back to training — just to make time pass.Then it turned into an addiction. I moved to Istanbul and it was livelier. You could go out, but I was still on my own. I’m not the type to go out alone — I hate loneliness.I said to myself, “If this keeps up, I’ll either turn to booze or the pills.” Booze isn’t good for a footballer, so instead of drinking I stuck with the pills. “At least I won’t gain weight,” I thought.I’d turn up to training around 1pm. I’d eat at 3pm and that would be my last meal. Then I’d take three or four pills. I’d wake up around midnight, take three or four more — then go to morning training.Honestly, it ruined my relationship with my kids. I was mentally absent. I think this is the first time I’ve ever spoken about it.I was lucky — my wife is a really good woman. She basically shook me out of it. It was really tough. I was so lonely. That’s why I was taking the pills — just to pass the time." 🇹🇷💊
Well done to him for speaking up about a tough time in his life and addiction2 -
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Fair play for speaking out and it shows that it is hard for footballers being away from family.According to Google, he is now in the Middle East, even further away from his family! Unless, they are with him.3
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Surely he could have found something better to do than huffing down sleeping tablets? Could have taken up online poker, played video games, watched endless repeats of Friends, gone to the driving range...
Sad for him that he felt he had to do that to pass the time1 -
I've always had empathy with footballers and this issue
I've spent years working all over the place, often. Aside from going on the piss there is not much to fill evenings with. I was mostly single when I was doing it but a professional footballer cam hardly finish training and go on the piss every evening to kill time. Its one thing to say play golf but you need people to do that with.
This is also why people don't say anything about issues like this. He speaks honestly about a serious problem and one that clearly exists in professional football a lot more than anyone acknowledges and they are judged, told to play a round of golf, facetime people. Not a million miles away from telling someone suffering from depression to just cheer up.
I enjoyed it, I'm biased, I like Jonjo and his family. I listen to plenty of these and his was more interesting than a lot they have had recently, different. He didn't have loads of stories about being chased by Kevin Nicholls with a handful of shit or Ben Thatcher shitting on his washbag his was considered, self-reflective and honest.
Horses for courses, yes footballers at his level earn very well. I used to earn well when I was in the arse end of somewhere up north but it didn’t mean I wasnt ever lonely or didn't miss my friends and family or even my own home and creature comforts. Its a lot easier now with the internet and smartphones to organise a game of padel for example or even line up a shag.
Point being he spoke about something he struggled with for whatever reason and without reading the twitter comments I cam guess they fly in the face of all the platitudes we hear about addiction, mental health and speaking out18 -
If you don't like being alone, why go to Turkey though? Nobody forced him to move there, and he was 31 when he made that decision, someone old enough to consider all the consequences.
And he stayed at Çaykur Rizespor for a whole season, so why didn't he come home in January instead of staying there for a year, and then moving to Istanbul?4 -
They’re with him. He did an interview a few months back saying he didn’t want his kids to grow up in the UK so he moved to DubaiTodds_right_hook said:Fair play for speaking out and it shows that it is hard for footballers being away from family.According to Google, he is now in the Middle East, even further away from his family! Unless, they are with him.3 -
killerandflash said:If you don't like being alone, why go to Turkey though? Nobody forced him to move there, and he was 31 when he made that decision, someone old enough to consider all the consequences.
And he stayed at Çaykur Rizespor for a whole season, so why didn't he come home in January instead of staying there for a year, and then moving to Istanbul?
The lure of a pound note.
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sam3110 said:Surely he could have found something better to do than huffing down sleeping tablets? Could have taken up online poker, played video games, watched endless repeats of Friends, gone to the driving range...
Sad for him that he felt he had to do that to pass the time
I am sure that anyone who has suffered from addiction could have "found something better to do". People are imperfect.
Well done to him for speaking out about it.9 -
He might not have realised it was going to be a problem before he went out there. And then if he didn’t get any offers to come back home he might’ve felt like he had to stay out there - seems silly when you’re living the life of a professional footballer, you’d think he could’ve just asked for the contract to be terminated but it’s not so easy when you’re in a bad way mentally.killerandflash said:If you don't like being alone, why go to Turkey though? Nobody forced him to move there, and he was 31 when he made that decision, someone old enough to consider all the consequences.
And he stayed at Çaykur Rizespor for a whole season, so why didn't he come home in January instead of staying there for a year, and then moving to Istanbul?3 -
Shelvey was a “Big I am” throwing his money about in a night club in Leicester, to a team of U21 University players that had come in for a night out . Got lairy with a couple of them, nasty horrible piece of work.3
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If you watch his Undr the Cosh interview on YouTube, you will understand why he went to Turkey……2
