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financial fair play

razilrazil
edited May 2012 in General Charlton
excuse my ignorance, but it seems a bit unfair on the newly promoted clubs who will have to spend more on their squads to bring them up to scratch, also how does it square with parachute payments for relegated prem side (sorry cdnt find the thread for this)

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  • razilrazil
    eff me there's tumbleweed ere..
  • LincsaddickLincsaddick
    edited May 2012
    Financial fair play ? ... deport the thieves who are exploiting the financial crisis .. are you listening MR WONGA ?
  • razilrazil
    I meant this

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/championship/9226249/Championship-clubs-agree-to-introduce-financial-fair-play-model.html
  • LincsaddickLincsaddick
    ^^^ I know .. just a good chance to air a bit of a 'political view'
  • razilrazil
    I was hoping for some informed discussion, doh!

    :)
  • LincsaddickLincsaddick
    you'll be lucky !! .. parachute payments, of course, inherently favour relegated clubs over promoted clubs. A quick reading of the new and proposed 'rules' indicates to me that the idea is to prevent two thing ; 1) Sugar daddys chucking large amounts of money into a club and 2) clubs going into crazy amounts of debt. I suspect that parachute payments will be exempt from the new rules, but expect that, as usual, lawyers and professional chatterboxes will make a lot of money deciding what is what and what is not.
  • eaststandmikeeaststandmike
    I was hoping for some informed discussion, doh!

    :)
    Wrong site for that, however if you want to discuss the size of a sky presenters charlies, bid on a pair of pants or start a rumour about who we are going to sign........keep it tuned :-)
  • jimmymelrosejimmymelrose
    Thirteen years on and I think we can see that the Premier League is becoming more and more of a closed shop, and I believe that this is due to F(U)FP.

    FFP limits spending to how much profit you earn. You cannot lose money for multiple years continuously. This basically means that large clubs will stay big and small clubs will stay small.

    Ipswich have money to spend but they are not allowed to spend it. Wolves, on the other hand, can spend theirs because it comes from TV money that Ipswich didn’t get. How is that fair play?

    Imagine in a business environment if you set a rule where businesses could only invest proportionally based on revenues. You would basically just entrench the current hierarchy permanently.

    I've heard the explicit reasoning given for financial fair play is to prevent clubs from going bankrupt and folding. If that's the case, then as long as the club can prove it has significant reserves of capital, shouldn't they be able to invest as much as they want?

    To all the people that are saying ffp prevents State ownership: FFPis preventing small clubs far more from succeeding. Newcastle have since got state ownership; they’ve just dressed it up otherwise. Their owners have been prevented so far from ’doing a Man City.’ What concerns me more is that we will soon have the same six clubs just swapping places. It’s only January and the relegation battle is virtually finished.

    Eventually the Premier League clubs will do as in Ligue 1 and reduce it to 2 up, 2 down. I also predict that they will take the opportunity to reduce it to 18 clubs and have one relegation place as it was until recently between the EFL and The National League. 



  • Athletico CharltonAthletico Charlton
    Given Championship clubs can lose £39M across 3 seasons it is, frankly, daft to think that FFP would stop bankruptcy of British clubs.
    A while bunch will go pop when the rich and famous of this world get bored with English football, assuming they ever do.  
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  • Karim_myBagheriKarim_myBagheri
    On a serious note, it was always obvious to me that the premier League would basically become a closed league. (The fact they can't and won't mention what happened before 92) The gap is getting larger with every year. I was one of the few that actually wanted the super league to happen. Get rid of at least a few of the clubs causing this gulf. Might of made a chance to create a more fairer and competitive league structure because of it. 
  • thickandthin63thickandthin63
    Big clubs will always find ways around it,while smaller. clubs will get fined and points deducted.When are Man City going to have to explain 115 charges,and they are still splashing millions.
  • msomertonmsomerton
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    On a serious note, it was always obvious to me that the premier League would basically become a closed league. (The fact they can't and won't mention what happened before 92) The gap is getting larger with every year. I was one of the few that actually wanted the super league to happen. Get rid of at least a few of the clubs causing this gulf. Might of made a chance to create a more fairer and competitive league structure because of it. 
    Problem with that is, the money would go with them.so you end up with impoverished teams playing domestic football only.
    That will not bring in world wide tv or the sponsorship and advertising that goes with it.
  • cafcnick1992cafcnick1992
    I totally agree with the bold statement above. FFP needs to go.
  • Karim_myBagheriKarim_myBagheri
    edited January 27
    msomerton said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    On a serious note, it was always obvious to me that the premier League would basically become a closed league. (The fact they can't and won't mention what happened before 92) The gap is getting larger with every year. I was one of the few that actually wanted the super league to happen. Get rid of at least a few of the clubs causing this gulf. Might of made a chance to create a more fairer and competitive league structure because of it. 
    Problem with that is, the money would go with them.so you end up with impoverished teams playing domestic football only.
    That will not bring in world wide tv or the sponsorship and advertising that goes with it.
    that's the beauty of it. Make it more how it was before the money. Theres only so many decent players they can have in their squad. 
  • msomertonmsomerton
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    msomerton said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    On a serious note, it was always obvious to me that the premier League would basically become a closed league. (The fact they can't and won't mention what happened before 92) The gap is getting larger with every year. I was one of the few that actually wanted the super league to happen. Get rid of at least a few of the clubs causing this gulf. Might of made a chance to create a more fairer and competitive league structure because of it. 
    Problem with that is, the money would go with them.so you end up with impoverished teams playing domestic football only.
    That will not bring in world wide tv or the sponsorship and advertising that goes with it.
    that's the beauty of it. Make it more how it was before the money. Theres only so many decent players they can have in their squad. 
    The question then is how much these players need or want to play domestic football, how much would you get in sponsorship and tv wrights and would it cover the cost or most of it of running a football club. 
  • conkerconker
    I admit that I do not fully understand FFP. But what I do know is that when the bigger clubs such as Chelsea, are having to sell their homegrown younger players such as Conor Gallagher but can get as many imports as they like something cannot be right.
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