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mini buses and booze

edited April 2012 in General Charlton
15 of us going to Preston saturday - we have a paid driver who obviously won't be drinking but the rest of us plan to have a 'few' drinks. What is the legal situation with this? If we get stopped, could we have our drink confiscated? what else?. Was planning on decking the minibus out with a few scrafs and flags but depending on what the score is with the booze, maybe its better to keep a low profile? We have 2 kids, 3 70 year olds and a lady on board so we hardly look like a 'proper norty firm' intent on getting boozed up and having a ruck so would just like a bit of advice as to what's what. Any advice will be appreciated.
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    Think it's illegal to have alcohol consumed by anyone in a travelling vehicle. Might be wrong though.
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    In theory, they can turn you back if stopped.

    In reality, this probably only applies to those the police class a risk, and can use as an excuse to turn away.

    Just be sensible, and clear out the empties when you get within half hour of Preston.
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    stop at the last services and ditch the empties and you'll be ok
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    Think it's illegal to have alcohol consumed by anyone in a travelling vehicle. Might be wrong though.
    You certainly are.
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    From memory illegal to be drinking when sat next to a driver.
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    Consuming alcohol on coaches/minibuses (and I think cars?) is illegal if you are either going to or from a football match. The legislation in question is the Sports Events Control and Alcohol Act 1985, so another thing you can thank Thatcher for.

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    From a football match? What are they going to do, turn you back to the ground?
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    From a football match? What are they going to do, turn you back to the ground?



    Maybe fine you several hundred quid? Give you a criminal record to boot...


    Anyway from the parliamentary act:


    1 Offences in connection with alcohol on coaches and trains..

    (1)This section applies to a vehicle which— .
    (a)is a public service vehicle or railway passenger vehicle, and .
    (b)is being used for the principal purpose of carrying passengers for the whole or part of a journey to or from a designated sporting event.

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    Wrong Section.....It's 1A that applies here.

    "Alcohol on certain other vehicles.E+W(1)This section applies to a motor vehicle which—
    (a)is not a public service vehicle but is adapted to carry more than 8 passengers, and
    (b)is being used for the principal purpose of carrying two or more passengers for the whole or part of a journey to or from a designated sporting event.
    (2)A person who knowingly causes or permits intoxicating liquor to be carried on a motor vehicle to which this section applies is guilty of an offence—
    (a)if he is its driver, or
    (b)if he is not its driver but is its keeper, the servant or agent of its keeper, a person to whom it is made available (by hire, loan or otherwise) by its keeper or the keeper’s servant or agent, or the servant or agent of a person to whom it is so made available.
    (3)A person who has intoxicating liquor in his possession while on a motor vehicle to which this section applies is guilty of an offence.
    (4)A person who is drunk on a motor vehicle to which this section appliesis guilty of an offence."

    If it's a mix of people as described and you're sensible it shouldn't be a problem, but you never know.b Whoever drinks, the driver and whoever hires the vehicle are committing offences. Don't you just love Democracy!
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    Well It'll be a long old journey to Preston with Booze
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    So, it would be ok to go to Blackpool on a stag weekend, take the wrong exit off the motorway and end up in Preston?
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    It's bans like this that make you question how much freedom we actually have.

    I mean, why should the Police have the power to stop a mini-bus full of law abiding, tax paying individuals just because they are drinking a few beers?

    Booze is legal, the driver is stone cold sober so its a few people enjoying a day out and a drink on the way there, what is this a bloody Police state or something?
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    Ormiston

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    It's bans like this that make you question how much freedom we actually have.

    I mean, why should the Police have the power to stop a mini-bus full of law abiding, tax paying individuals just because they are drinking a few beers?

    Booze is legal, the driver is stone cold sober so its a few people enjoying a day out and a drink on the way there, what is this a bloody Police state or something?
    but it only takes one dick to lob an empty can at the driver or dick about and you could have a nasty incident on your hands, madness myself but you can see the logic as to why coached mini buses ect must be dry.
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    It's bans like this that make you question how much freedom we actually have.

    I mean, why should the Police have the power to stop a mini-bus full of law abiding, tax paying individuals just because they are drinking a few beers?

    Booze is legal, the driver is stone cold sober so its a few people enjoying a day out and a drink on the way there, what is this a bloody Police state or something?
    but it only takes one dick to lob an empty can at the driver or dick about and you could have a nasty incident on your hands, madness myself but you can see the logic as to why coached mini buses ect must be dry.
    I see your point but why should the whole country have to suffer because of the potential of what one idiot might do? I think if sensible, law abiding people want to sink a few beers on a coach/minibus then its nobody's business but theirs.

    If someone acts up THEN do something, its out of order to ban the whole coach from any booze whatsoever and I find it sad that people are so willing to hand over their freedoms like this, although I appreciate that they did not have much choice in it in the first place.

    Here in Oz the boozy coach journey to the cricket/races/football is a rite of passage and - although Australia is a massively over-regulated country - there would be hell to pay if the government tried to ban people from having a beer on a coach.
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    But it only takes one dick to lob an empty can at the driver or dick about and you could have a nasty incident on your hands, madness myself but you can see the logic as to why coached mini buses ect must be dry.
    I didn't know you were a member of The Beehive National Hunt Club Adam?

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    Ok, thanks all. Pretty much as i thought. Will take AFKA and Eltham's advice on board. Only decision to make is whether to clad the fun bus in colours - probably won't and will put the oldies and youngsters nearest the driver. See you in Preston. Any tips on what pub people will be going to and how many we've sold so far? Last week it seemed to be about the 1500 mark but haven't seen an update for a while. Will be working on the double denim this week rather than the 'Charlton are back' flag.
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    Just under 1500 by the end of Saturday.
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    personally I wouldn't clad it in colours, maybe scarfs and flags once at the last services, no need to unduely draw attention to yourselves if you are having a beer or two !
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    im in no way bitter and jelous that i missed out on a seat on the mini bus going to preston with certain lifers, some would say its a clique special, god help us if that mini bus has a mishap en route charltonlife will come to a standstil. ;-)

    oh and ive just hacked there account and re-orderd the mini bus... have a nice trip guys:

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    ;-)
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    It's a horse racing club I and a couple of others on here belong to. You described a typical scene on our return journeys from a big meeting. People often falling down the stariwell etc....
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    rather than the 'Charlton are back' flag.
    Make the flag!

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    Adam was you invited on this "cliques" mini bus that you miss out on?

    Maybe Ricky could give you a piggy back up to Preston
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    edited April 2012
    Jeeze gumbo mate, again with the ricky stuff, did he touch you as a child or somthing i will give his agent a bell and see if i can fix you 2 up on a date ;-) It was only when doyles old man asked me if i was going with you lot that i knew anything about it mate, no need for grief pal.
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    If you wouldn't mind Adam could with catching up with him

    And thanks for offering us that mini bus mate anyway that Loyalty discount you get has come in helpful
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    no worries mate just dont forget to ask for a backdraft special,, will make your eyes water.
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    Who is Doyle?
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    It's ok, penny's dropped... you mean Doyley as his mates know him?
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    yes and his cousin as to which i is..
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