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Positive or Negative?

edited April 2012 in General Charlton
After reading Doctor Kish’s blog ‘Wondrous Journey’ about the last 134 Charlton games, I have been wondering if this stint in the third tier has been good for Charlton or not. Embarrassing, humiliating and very expensive for some it may have been but, we now look a better run outfit that is no longer running to stand still but looking to the future and moving forward.

Promotion (champions maybe), 28 wins (still counting, hopefully) and 22 clean sheets (same) can give you slightly rose tinted spectacles but, history may well judge this visit to the never regions of the football league system as a positive period.

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  • We deserved our punishment, and good things can come from punishment - but nonetheless it was punishment.

    Getting relegated from the Prem was nobody's choice, but at least there was the compensation that the Championship was competitive, had mostly decent crowds, grounds & atmosphere (esp. compared to those of us who lived through 3,500 crowds in the 70s & 80s), and there would be fewer games that were dead after 30 minutes. But there were far fewer compensations dropping down again, and I for one will not be sorry if we never go back to L1...
  • Not positive for me. I don't think we've got a divine right to be in the Championship, but I do think we're not a League 1 club and shouldn't have spend 3 seasons at that level - just compare our facilities with the majority of the clubs we've played this year. I hold the popular view that the Championship is our natural level, although with our mysterious owners we could see ourselves gracing the Premiership.
  • Funny you should say that. A couple of days ago I was wondering where we would be now if we'd won the shootout against Swindon and beaten Millwall at Wembley. I don't suppose we'd have CP as manager and the accompanying feelgood factor, though we'll never know. I suspect hitting rock bottom, or as close to it as we've been, will be good for us in the long run. (Not that anyone enjoyed it.)
  • To be honest, when you look back at what you call the years spent in the nether regions of the league, it's all pretty negative. What is positive is the introduction of new owners, and thanks to Richard Murray for recognising their very positive attitude, and the management appointments that were made.
    I do prefer always to look forward to the future about which I am extremely positive, and look forward to regularly filling the Stadium again. In the meantime I hope to lose my voice tomorrow over our success, after all you can always say Goodbye Hoarse !
  • Without the downs in life you dont enjoy the ups for what they are.
    Or my view; A down is an up waiting to happen.
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    Without the downs in life you dont enjoy the ups for what they are.
    Or my view; A down is an up waiting to happen.
    Good news for Luton fans.
  • Positive.
  • Without the downs in life you dont enjoy the ups for what they are.
    Or my view; A down is an up waiting to happen.
    Good news for Luton fans.
    Speaking to my stepdad lastnight and found out they pay more for a season ticket, than we will be next year if sat in the North !

  • Positive : imo from a fans perspective, we have lost the glory hunters who came in for their 'cheap & quick thrill'. I'm an old skool Charlton fan, did my apprenticeship in the 80's and 90's, undoubtedly some of the best times, in fact I'd say supporting Charlton outside of the Premiership was much more of a thrill. Looking at the fantastic support that we have had this season, especially on the road, we've regained a proper hardcore support base. Apologies if i offend any of those that came in off the back of the Prem days.
  • I agree that we appreciate the highs more, but there's not a lot of enjoyment in watching your club in relentless decline - finishing lower each season.
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  • I'd like to think that one positive that will be garnered from languishing in the 3rd Division is that we'll fully appreciate our new found status and not become complacent or overdemanding as has happened in the past.
    I for one cannot wait.
  • Trophy(?), a new found confidence, new owners some quality new players and watched some good football.. All positive in my eyes, not an easy league to get out off so when you do in style it's only positive imo
  • Bar this season, I can't feel anything but abject depression about the previous four years. This doesn't, and in my opinion shouldn't, change how I feel about those seasons.
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    I rejoice in Chris, the team and promotion..... but not for one moment do I think this has been a positive experience, at least for me as a supporter, since our demise from the prem and championship days
  • While in hindsight I would not have wanted to miss out on the 1999/2000 promotion season and coming back into the Premier League much the stronger, I would happily have missed out on nearly every part of the last 3 years aprt from the appointment of SCP. Even this season there has been too much angst at the possibility of failure to go up
  • Negative.

    Positive things have happened such as the new board and SCP but they could have happened in the Championship or Premiership.

    For example I would much rather we were celebrating promotion up the Prem now under Powell that out of league one but it is what it is, we are here and as Powell said "we have to accept that, not like it, but accept it".

    We've lost fans, income and good young players too early. Most likely hit our recruitment of good 8, 9 and 10 year olds as well.

    Lots of good people behind the scenes also lost their jobs.

    Negative all the way.
  • Who "Doctor Kish ?"
  • Him big chief blogger .
  • I think we will grow bigger, if only for the reason that we have a huge fanbase compared to the last time we were in the 3rd divison.
    For those that were there I seem to remember crowds of 6-8k with 'big' games attracting 12-14k, (these figures are off the top of my head, cant be arsed trawling the net). This year we average 16k I guess with big games hitting 20k+. So all things being equal, if/when we get to the EPL our percentage of 'real' supporters will be higher then when we were last there. So a positive for me will be that we will be a bigger club in terms of support and that has to be a good thing.
    I still wish the slide into League 1 had not of happened though.
  • Positive : imo from a fans perspective, we have lost the glory hunters who came in for their 'cheap & quick thrill'. I'm an old skool Charlton fan, did my apprenticeship in the 80's and 90's, undoubtedly some of the best times, in fact I'd say supporting Charlton outside of the Premiership was much more of a thrill. Looking at the fantastic support that we have had this season, especially on the road, we've regained a proper hardcore support base. Apologies if i offend any of those that came in off the back of the Prem days.
    I'm one of the glory hunters, however those Prem years brought me to the club (well, that and geography, but as we know geography of S/E London could have led to all sorts of unfortunate club-supporting outcomes!), and as I've said many times, I am so grateful for that.

    I agree with Henry's comments about the loss of players, staff and the other undebatable costs of relegation, but the comments that resonate with me are that without the bad, you simply can't appreciate the good. Leeds, and to a lesser extent Liverpool are examples of clubs that for years likely took their positions in the game for granted. Should they be fortunate enough to rise again, they will certainly appreciate the heights much more than if they had simply ticked along at the top of the Premiership, qualifying for Europe etc. in the interim.

    I think that the past three years at CAFC have been devastating, but have also distilled the club to its essence in terms of management and support, and it is clear that the club is not only on an upward trajectory, but also that always was and remains the plan.

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  • Positive : imo from a fans perspective, we have lost the glory hunters who came in for their 'cheap & quick thrill'. I'm an old skool Charlton fan, did my apprenticeship in the 80's and 90's, undoubtedly some of the best times, in fact I'd say supporting Charlton outside of the Premiership was much more of a thrill. Looking at the fantastic support that we have had this season, especially on the road, we've regained a proper hardcore support base. Apologies if i offend any of those that came in off the back of the Prem days.
    I'm one of the glory hunters, however those Prem years brought me to the club (well, that and geography, but as we know geography of S/E London could have led to all sorts of unfortunate club-supporting outcomes!), and as I've said many times, I am so grateful for that.

    I wouldn't worry about Spanish mate. He stopped going after we dropped out of the Premier League.
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