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Pardew

It might grate to say it, but he is doing a really good job at Newcastle. So far this season he's made lots of good tactical calls, and coped with the loss of key players in defence - both S Taylor and Colocini are out at the moment. An excelent scouting network helps of course, but he certainly has been up to the job. His record at West Ham, Reading and Soton is reasonable too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Pardew

So why did he screw it up so badly at Charlton?
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    edited April 2012
    Pardew is a complete knob but Charlton were a club in a terminal tailspin when he was manager. I doubt Jose Mourinho would have done much better.
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    Pardew is a complete knob but Charlton were a club in a terminal tailspin when he was manager. I doubt Mose Mourinho would have done much better.
    Is that a Jewish Jose?

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    For example, for us he bought Varney (2.5m), McLeod (1m) and Gray (1m?) all flops.

    At Soton he bought Lambert who can't stop scoring for them (85 goals so far). Imagine if we had had Lambert up front instead of Mcleod...
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    edited April 2012
    Don't think he had any interest in managing a Championship side. Once we dropped out of the Premiership and then sold Andy Reid it was game over for the Pardew/Charlton experiment.
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    To be fair the year we came down from the Prem, he had enough backing to get us back up at the first time of asking imo and failed badly, some of his signings that season were terrible, and then the following season was never going to cut it with no funds available.

    But you cannot fault the job he has done at castle, different horses for different courses and all that.
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    He can't be totally crap as a manager as he's proved at Newcastle. He's still an odious knob though.
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    Maybe his time with us removed some of the arrogance that I think was responsible for many of his poor decisions.

    I do feel my anger rising everytime I hear his achievements this season discussed on TV. No doubt he has done well, and it does make it loo like it was the club's fault rather then the manager's but I still have a sneaking feeling that they might struggle next season. West Ham made the Cup final and minister 9th the season after winning the play offs. The following season they, literally, imploded.

    I'm not sure I will ever stop hating Pardew, so I welcome his future failure with welcome arms.
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    He's still an odious knob though.
    That covers it for me
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    I think he lost interest in us early on just as he lost interest in the players he brought in very quickly but he was never as good as some hailed him when he came or as bad as he was painted when he left.

    Regardles time to move on. New manager, new board, new direction.
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    For example, for us he bought Varney (2.5m), McLeod (1m) and Gray (1m?) all flops.

    At Soton he bought Lambert who can't stop scoring for them (85 goals so far). Imagine if we had had Lambert up front instead of Mcleod...
    This is what I don't get. No matter how shit we were, he bought awful players.

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    No matter how successful Pardew is he will always remain for me an utter and complete self-serving poseur of the first order.
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    Toon fans were singing his name yesterday.
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    Someone on MOTD2 suggested that his experiences at Charlton and Southampton had taken him down a much-needed peg or two and that he wasn't as arrogant as he once was. It is grudging, but I'm with Killerandflash in that he seems to have become the manager at the Toon that I'd hoped he'd be at Charlton.

    I did hear from a very good source that Pardew was burnt out after West Ham and had been looking for a break from the game - but that our offer was too good to refuse. Coupled with his arrogance it was a recipe for the disaster than ensued.

    We or he can't get away from the damage that he did to us, but he's doing the opposite at the Toon and credit where it's due. And this from someone who thought I'd never find a good word to say about him.
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    I wouldn't say Varney was a flop. Always played quite well just didn't score enough. Andy Gray had just won football league player of the year when we signed him and Mcleod was banging the goals in before he came to us and has been since he left.
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    edited April 2012
    He had a 'thing' for signing young, especially black, French players. It didn't work for us but has worked VERY well at the Toon
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    He's good at motivating a side that's doing well, but he can't arrest the slump once it gets started. Instead of pulling the players out of their funk he chops and changes the squad and publicly blames players for their performances. Teams end up with 500 debuts and 0 points. And of course his ego prevents him from admitting it's him who's made a mistake. He's very lucky to have landed on his feet so many times, but I have a suspicion that Newcastle are still a selling club and in the summer he'll lose Tiote, Krul and Ba, then the likes of Cisse and Ben Arfa the next. It will most likely go downhill and the pattern will repeat
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    not forgetting he brought an assistant here that hardly helped matters ;-)

    at newcastle they don't sign anyone old and are looking to get value and potential sell ons from their players , they are a club that is being run properly and atm aren't losing money

    tiote goes in the summer

    pardew is not given a free reign like murray made the mistake of doing
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    One thing that characterised his teams was the turnover in players - particularly in defence. In our first season in the CCC I tried counting the number of changes he made, mostly unforced, to the defence and gave up. He rarely played the same back five for more than one or two games in succession giving me the impression that he was desperately looking for a combination of players that worked regardless of how many changes he would have to make until he found it. How many loanees came in for example and always seemed to play immediately regardless of how match fit they were in preference to a home-grown/a full time Charlton player?

    This season by contrast in league matches we've used three goalkeepers (one of whom was sold), three central defenders and Solly and Wiggins have been ever-present barring a couple of matches when Solly was unaccountably dropped/rested and then ill for one game. Ok, Chris Powell has been lucky with injuries and suspensions but a settled back five has created the tightest defence in L1, that's no coincidence.
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    Thought he was the right man for us when he signed, due to his past connections with the club. Time proved this to be wrong. Can't knock what he is doing at the moment with Newcastle, but can't forgive him for leaving us on the brink!
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    I think he lost interest in us early on just as he lost interest in the players he brought in very quickly but he was never as good as some hailed him when he came or as bad as he was painted when he left.

    Regardles time to move on. New manager, new board, new direction.
    About right really.

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    What BFR said. Ashley is so tight that the side picks itsef. If he had 30+ similar quality players to choose from he'd struggle to choose best 11. Not sure who targets buys but they have signed great unknowns.
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    You have to give him his due for what he's done at newcastle. He turned out to be the wrong man at the wrong time for us. It happens
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    The previous manager, Houghton, signed scout Graham Carr (Alan's dad) who seems to be given the credit for many of these signings. Newcastle is being well-run at present, we weren't, and that's the probable difference.
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    Sorry, but I think he was a failure at Charlton , and a failure that has cost us dearly.
    I agree he has been an effective manager at Newcastle, and was being lauded as the possible winner of the LMA of the year on tv.
    I welcomed his appointment at Charlton, so my bitterness has not yet gone.
    To me he was a failure, and a very costly one, that the club has had to pay the price for.
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    The man is like a bad stain. I still dislike Southampton but have to ask myself why and remind myself that he's no longer there. I've always previously liked Newcastle but now I can't stand seeing them do well. He was good for us as a player but I now think that it was a secret Palace plan to one day tempt us into making him our manager and send us down. He is like the apple in Snow White.
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    I wouldn't say Varney was a flop. Always played quite well just didn't score enough. Andy Gray had just won football league player of the year when we signed him and Mcleod was banging the goals in before he came to us and has been since he left.
    So he failed to get them to achieve the potential that he bought them for.

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    Maybe he was trying to do us over like a kipper.
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    What BFR said. Ashley is so tight that the side picks itsef. If he had 30+ similar quality players to choose from he'd struggle to choose best 11. Not sure who targets buys but they have signed great unknowns.
    Not too sure the players they have signed have been unknowns, Cabaye won the French title last season with Lille and has played a number of times for France, Tiote won the Dutch league a couple of years ago and Cisse had been banging in the goals in Germany.

    I'm fairly sure a number of clubs have been chasing these unknowns for quite a while.
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    The big thing about Pardew at Newcastle, is that his signings have all been good, he's had an incredible success rate (thanks to Alan Carr's dad - perhaps we should ask Jim Davidson's dad for transfer tips?). At Soton, he bought well too - Lambert could score the goals for 2 successive promotions.

    At Charlton, oh dear...he had a massive budget for a newly relegated Championship team, but never managed to create a cohesive team. I guess he's learned from his mistakes...
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    Stop your snivelling,the man's long gone and is but a footnote in Charlton's history.
    Moaning is life's blood to some of you people.
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