I would encourage kermit to drop a little deepr or maybe push out wide and bring jacko or green more central, that our go 4-3-3 with Haynes or Green, Bradly and Kermit, and play more decisive balls to the front three (not aimless punts fwd or just percentage balls) and then let them do there thing not offering too much support from midfield, this would also encourage solly and wiggings to act more as wing backs with extra sapce to run into
I think Yann can play in the 'hole' has a great touch, good link up play, and would hopefully keep the ball on the floor a lot more, has a great engine and doesn't mind covering - woudl allow Hollands and Stephens to bomb on more which is harder for the other teams to mark
More importantly we need to educate our own fans, passing back the ball in order to retain possession is not a crime, giving away the ball is a crime. Most our fans seem far to concerned with gettin it fwd as quick as poss rather than taking our time making to make space.
More importantly we need to educate our own fans, passing back the ball in order to retain possession is not a crime, giving away the ball is a crime. Most our fans seem far to concerned with gettin it fwd as quick as poss rather than taking our time making to make space.
This. There is nothing wrong with a pass backwards or to the side. You can't always just 'get it into the box'.
Agree that having a look at this system would be worthwhile and might free up Stephens and Hollands to get forward into the box a bit more. Doubt we will see it though as I think SCP is a dedicated 4-4-2 man.
More importantly we need to educate our own fans, passing back the ball in order to retain possession is not a crime, giving away the ball is a crime. Most our fans seem far to concerned with gettin it fwd as quick as poss rather than taking our time making to make space.
this all day long, really getting to me all this 'get it forward', 'hoof it upfield' comments around me. I am beginning to despair.
More importantly we need to educate our own fans, passing back the ball in order to retain possession is not a crime, giving away the ball is a crime. Most our fans seem far to concerned with gettin it fwd as quick as poss rather than taking our time making to make space.
especially as we have a keeper who can get involved and take a couple of touches before picking out the right pass.......
thats a joke before anyone gets their panties all twisted, i think Hamer has done well this season and i'm glad the team are happy to get the ball down and retain possesion rather than punting it up the pitch aimlessly.
Well, I always thought 4-4-2 seemed too much like a steam locomotive classification and we can't have that can we? But seriously, I think we should have gone 4-5-1 at half time against Colchester.
I like the 4-5-1 system away from home but our overall record has been got by playing 4-4-2. might be that a tweak to the team is required just to freshen it up.
plus you have to look at the oppo and see how they are likely to set up or change it according to how the pattern of play is developing during the game.
I think you stick with 4-4-2 but if you go behind or are level going into the second half against a team that is parking the bus- you change to a 3-4-3.
I'd like to see how a 4-2-3-1 goes, that way BWP isn't the 'lone striker', there's a lot of support right behind him. It also eliminates the problem of a lack of pace on the wings.
The other way to combat packed midfields rather than dropping strikers back is to push the defenders forward. Sometimes, I feel we fail to do this at home because we are not prepared to take some risks at the back.
I'd stick to 4-4-2 it's got us 13 points clear this season, why change it. If half way through next season and we're in decline perhaps change it then.
I'd like to see how a 4-2-3-1 goes, that way BWP isn't the 'lone striker', there's a lot of support right behind him. It also eliminates the problem of a lack of pace on the wings.
Of course it elimates the problem of pace on the wings when you don't have them...
More importantly we need to educate our own fans, passing back the ball in order to retain possession is not a crime, giving away the ball is a crime. Most our fans seem far to concerned with gettin it fwd as quick as poss rather than taking our time making to make space.
You could start with the loud bloke who sits near me!
If you played 3 up front, you have Kermogant's aerial ability for flick ons and say Haynes and BWP running off of him. Not a way to start but certainly a good approach to chasing a game when your opponents are more content with closing down space and defending than attacking your goal with numbers.
As for educating some of our fans- good luck - I'd concerntrate on something easier like teaching monkeys to speak!
Last time we tried to change our system to combat another team's style it resulted in a disjointed performance and a loss. This system works and it's well drilled. Asking the players to adapt to a new system at this stage in the season is just begging to drop points
Apply what numbers you like, but someone needs to get forward from central midfield more and support the front men. With the right players, 4-5-1 can be very positive - witness the Kish/Murphy/Smertin/Thomas/Romm era which briefly gave us the some of the best football we ever played. However, it can be awfully negative, look at half the teams every saturday, they just pack the middle and try and nick something.
You can't possibly change a formation that has resulted in losing only 3 games all season. You just need a plan B for the odd occasion when things aren't going your way.
You can't possibly change a formation that has resulted in losing only 3 games all season. You just need a plan B for the odd occasion when things aren't going your way.
I'd like to see how a 4-2-3-1 goes, that way BWP isn't the 'lone striker', there's a lot of support right behind him. It also eliminates the problem of a lack of pace on the wings.
Of course it elimates the problem of pace on the wings when you don't have them...
Who would you play in that formation?
No need to be pedantic. The same back 5. Jackson and Hollands as the two. Kermorgant, Stephens and Green/Wagstaff behind BWP. We have a good squad though, I think there's a lot you could do with that formation and you could only really tell the best positions for each player after a bit of experimenting with it.
For the record, I agree there's no huge need for change but it would be good to try a few new things, especially after we pick up a few more points and promotion is all but confirmed. I'm sure Powell has tried other ways of playing in training.
And as for 3 at the back? What a load of bollocks. Maybe if you're playing football manager, or if you dont think we're conceding enough. Take a look at every other team... 4 at the back is standard for a reason. Every player learns how to defend in a back 4.
And as for 3 at the back? What a load of bollocks. Maybe if you're playing football manager, or if you dont think we're conceding enough. Take a look at every other team... 4 at the back is standard for a reason. Every player learns how to defend in a back 4.
Surely experimenting when you've already gained automatic promotion is better than experimenting midway through a season?
We've been outnumbered and outplayed in midfield the last two games so more than reasonable for Len to bring this up. I hope SCP and Dyer are discussing the exact same thing at Sparrows Lane this week-how to solve the problem when team's play three in midfield against us because they've been outthought tactically in the last two.
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There is nothing wrong with a pass backwards or to the side. You can't always just 'get it into the box'.
thats a joke before anyone gets their panties all twisted, i think Hamer has done well this season and i'm glad the team are happy to get the ball down and retain possesion rather than punting it up the pitch aimlessly.
But seriously, I think we should have gone 4-5-1 at half time against Colchester.
plus you have to look at the oppo and see how they are likely to set up or change it according to how the pattern of play is developing during the game.
would stick with 4-4-2 for Saturday, at home.
Who would you play in that formation?
As for educating some of our fans- good luck - I'd concerntrate on something easier like teaching monkeys to speak!
For the record, I agree there's no huge need for change but it would be good to try a few new things, especially after we pick up a few more points and promotion is all but confirmed. I'm sure Powell has tried other ways of playing in training.
And as for 3 at the back? What a load of bollocks. Maybe if you're playing football manager, or if you dont think we're conceding enough. Take a look at every other team... 4 at the back is standard for a reason. Every player learns how to defend in a back 4.
I hope SCP and Dyer are discussing the exact same thing at Sparrows Lane this week-how to solve the problem when team's play three in midfield against us because they've been outthought tactically in the last two.
Edit: Just to be clear, not got an issue with 5 in the middle (as it may have read) but an issue with 5 or 3 at the back...