Future Valley Capacity??

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I've been thinking recently, just how high a potential capacity could we achieve if needed. I've seen the plans that were put together for the extra seats, that would have made the capacity 40,000. Theoretically though how big could we make the Valley?
Obviously this is a speculative idea.

Addickted4life

I believe if we stayed in the Prem a couple more years it was going to made to 35,000?

jamescafc

So it's 27,111 at the moment and filling in the SE and SW corners plus re-building the South stand to match the North must make it 40-45,000 surely?

bingaddick

I can't see too much beyond 40,000 to be honest. I am sure if you double decked the West and East, you could probably go higher. The challenge would be permission in what is ostensibly a residential area.

As present we are struggling to get much over 20,000. I'd settle for selling out the current capacity.

Addick90

yeh slater said in his interview that that would be reviewed if we were knocking on the door/get back into the prem in a few years, he said the plans were accepted and could have been used had we not been relegated, but theyve expired now, though they could easily be re-granted for up to 40,000 at least..... they would do it in stages to around 30-35 first i think

eaststandmike

Steady lads, still a long way to go, we do not want to be running up debt building stands before we are established in the top flight..................look at Darlington & Coventry this week

Scoham

Back in November 2004 Charlton kicked off their initial plans to turn their SE7 home into a 31,000-capacity all-seater stadium, with detailed proposals for a second tier to the east stand and a new south-east quadrant handed to Greenwich Council the following month.

On top of that, the club also revealed its long-term intention to increase the capacity to 40,600, with additional work proposed at the south end of the stadium, the Jimmy Seed Stand.

http://cafc.digital-ink.co.uk/newsview.ink?nid=23980&newstype=n

paulsturgess

We obtained consent to build up the east stand first, and then finally do the south stand up. Total taking it to 40,000. Can't really see a situation where we would need more than that any time, certainly in the next 20 or 30 years or so.

Richard J

In Slater's interview he said that the planning permission had run out , normally you need to start work within five years of the permission being granted .

I was concerned a few months ago when there was a debate on here about the sale of some houses which back on to the East stand . There are all sorts of technical issues with Planning law such as the right to light and uninterupted views of parts of London which would possibly make this more difficult now .

cafcnorth7

I thought the Application was rejected,because of the flat behind the jimmy seed stand that what someone told me?

Callumcafc

Look at that graphic, it's glorious.

eaststandmike

Would have to segregate the Jimmy Seed, far too good just for away fans

paulsturgess

No the application was approved. We would be able to get permission again with relative ease.

eaststandmike

I would have thought any debt would be in the name of the club not an individual so what happens if they walk away or their business' s run into trouble??

cafcnorth7

could'nt they move the away supporter so they have half the east then we can have behind both goal use the car park behind the score board to park there coachs

kentaddick

could segregate one of the proposed quadrants off from the other stands and use that as the away fans area like some other PL clubs do

ShootersHillGuru

Can't park coaches in the car park because of the potholes.

cafcnorth7

oh well that my idear out the window make them walk

DartfordAddick

I'd love that graphic to become a reality, but first things first.. we have to go collect that League 1 title.. we're going to have to wait at least 6-10 years for this.

ROBCOLL132

I think the superstore needs enlargeing soon cause even with 18-19000 down there its way too packed, you just cant move in there,it would increase reveinue to help get in better players and there wages

SilentAddick

I believe that plans were to have the south stand JS stand a triple tiered one? It was MASSIVE when I saw the plans - a bit like the one at St James Park, Newcastle...

better red than dead

"Charlton4life
our owners are rich so we wont ever get in debts"
The club will owe money to the owners. They are not a charity and don't just donate money to the club; they lend money to it with the expectation of getting it back. Money is still owed to previous directors but they have waived payment until we get back to the Preniership.

thai malaysia addick

Hey, remember where we were a year ago. If we are promoted, there is no guarantee that the crowds in the Championship would be much different to this season unless we are right at the top again. A cold January evening game at home to Barnsley is only marginally more attractive than Bury if you are in, say, 14th place.

Friend Or Defoe

Great plans but I can't see the capacity being increased for a long time, although the new East Stand was going to have an extra row of boxes and only increase the capacity for 3,000 or so, so could happen.

Airman Brown

There is no automatic right to renew a planning consent if the material considerations have changed in the meantime. This can be a change in government guidance about land use or something else being built that affects it.

Stig

I thought that a major part of the plan was that we'd have to be established in the Premiership, because with our current level of support it's only games against the biggest teams where a bigger capacity would be of use. Getting two promotions is a big "if" in itself, let alone staying there. Even if we do establish ourselves as a Prem team again, it still might not pay, because the economic situation is so different. You never used to see empty seats at prem grounds, but you do now because lots of people can't afford to go. I've got the feeling it'll be a long time before we see The Valley looking like that model.

That said the plans were staged so that building of new sections could take place at different times, so there could be scope for some increase, if not the full-blown development.

legaladdick

On Saturday we were playing the second placed team in what we all recognized was a crucial match, yet we failed to get 21k, leaving us 6k short on our present maximum. And that was with Sheff Utd virtually selling out the Seed stand. Talk of increasing capacity beyond our present level is premature. The owners will not spend money to increase capacity when the reality is that even next season we would be unlikely to fill the ground for more than one or two games at most. There is nothing more disheartening than sitting in a half empty stadium - just ask the Spanners!!

lolwray

we ve a long way to go before it becomes a real consideration ...perhaps i got carried away with pre match enthusiasm on the site as i was hopeful that we d make beyond 22,000 ..lets get the "one aim" out of the way first

Salad

agree with legaladdick, Saturdays attendance whilst very good it was perhaps a reality check that we couldn't get 19k or 20k home fans for the biggest game of the season.
If we were re-established in the Prem then it might be nice to get a 30k stadium but 40k crowds are a pipe dream.

Simonsen

Wonder what the attendance Saturday would have been if we had had a couple of lower priced terraced areas? (for both home and away fans).

ljm29

I love that pic of what the ground would look like with it the stands all joined together. It would look beautiful. Going past the Valley on the train now makes me appreciate the ground we have already really. I loved the old covered end and the portacabins etc but we have a lovely ground now, if you used to go when it was smaller you wouldn't belive it would ever look like it does. Premier League is a long way off and i'm just hoping for promotion this season at the moment but how good would it be if Sir Chris got us back to those amazing days of a few years ago.