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Playing Direct Football (hoof ball)

There have been a number of derisory comments on Wendies direct style of football.

It is just a style of football, Wimbledon (rip) used it to great effect and most teams when they need a goal In the final 10 minutes resort to the direct style. It isn't pretty and I don't like it but for a team of overgrown schoolboys it can be effective. We proved yesterday that our way is better, but we do use the direct style ourselves at times so don't criticise the Wendies for their lack of style as they know no better.

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  • 3 points all that matters to me but if you can play nice football then so be it.I do notice it a bit but were top of the league so not gonna criticize.
  • Smiles - seriously, we do go direct sometimes and I'm not against any team doing that in moderation - you need to be versatile - what is wrong for me when that is all a team is about. get big lumps and get the ball up to them as quickly as possible- it just is the dark side of the force but it is what Megson is all about. I'm taking it out on Wednesday but really it is my dislike for him as a manager. If they don't go up, which is a decent possibility I can see them changing tack with somebody new.
  • Much earlier in the season some Sheffield Wednesday fans said that their powerful style of play would get them out of this division better than Charltons 'tippy tappy' style. I wonder if they still have as much confidence in that assertion.
  • edited January 2012
    I hate 'Tippy tappy' football . its far too successful ;-0
  • I think there's nothing wrong with using it when it's what needs to be done. But if it's all you've got, then there's only so far it will take you. Other teams will know what to expect when they play you.

    We've seen plenty of teams this season chucking balls into the box against us and we've been very good at dealing with it and generally gone on to win the game.

    Mixing things up is always going to come out on top in the long run.
  • edited January 2012
    it MAY be successful, but not what any fan would really want from their team, other than short term success. For me it says more about, the manager if it is used as the "norm" (as in Sheffield Wednesday's case) and as Mutley points out is combined with a lack of versitility.

    Megsons's pre-match team talk yesterday must have been along the lines............
    "Keeper, when in possesion, just lump it up to the front two"
    "full backs, when in possesion, just lump it up to the front two"
    "midfield, when in possesion, just lump it up to the front two"
    "forwards, when in possesion, don't just lump it up to the front two, try backing into their defenders and hope the ball drops nicely for you to shoot, if it doesn't and they win possession, ALL whinge, and get our clueless crowd to cheer by winning corners and throw ins near their box"
    "if they are in possesion, try to stop them, if the referee thinks that elbowing, shirt pulling and taking the man out after the ball has gone is against the rules, just whinge"
    "now get out there and show them how MASSIVE we are.
  • Megson fills his team with 6ft 5in brutes and hoof ball is the only style the man plays wherever he has been manager.
  • Cambridge Utd under John Beck were the ultimate hoof ball team.
  • I was expecting to see Wednesday play some football yesterday.

    What I saw yesterday from the first minute to the last was either weaver kicking up to the front 2 or weaver rolling out to the fullbacks who would lump it up to the front two.

    Theirs times when we need to go direct and we can do it. There were times yesterday where we would curl one down the line behind their full backs and times yesterday when we played some top drawer footy on the deck. Down in the right hand corners in the 2nd half to be precise.

    Wednesday don't have a plan b. All they can do is hoof hoof hoof and it must be awful to watch every week but is obviously effective against teams with weaker defences
  • Much earlier in the season some Sheffield Wednesday fans said that their powerful style of play would get them out of this division better than Charltons 'tippy tappy' style. I wonder if they still have as much confidence in that assertion.
    I wouldn't be surprised. They still think they are better than us. Ignorance is bliss i suppose?
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  • Cambridge Utd under John Beck were the ultimate hoof ball team.
    He used to keep the grass long down the wings, so the ball didn't run out of play.
  • Cambridge Utd under John Beck were the ultimate hoof ball team.
    He actually subbed one of his midfielders once for failing - just once - to follow the team method of hoofing the ball down towards the corner flag.

    At their home ground - Abbey Road? - they used to dump loads of sand into the corners of the pitch to slow the ball down and trap their opponents in their own penalty areas.

    I had a mate who played for Charlton against the U's in the early 90's, he described it as being like no other game of football he had played in because of their heavily drilled long-ball tactics.
  • For those who went what was Gary Madine like?
  • Noticed yesterday the extent to which Megson will go to "aid" his footballing philosophy. Their pitch has had the width significantly reduced, so much so that there is a very large run-up on each side of the pitch with much less than that between sideline and the penalty area.
  • For those who went what was Gary Madine like?
    Rusty.
  • Cambridge Utd under John Beck were the ultimate hoof ball team.
    He used to keep the grass long down the wings, so the ball didn't run out of play.
    It was also to stop the opposition wingers from being able to run with the ball. They also used to waterlog the pitch in the middle and around the penalty area, and usually the away dressing rooms heating and hot water were unfortunately broken (funnily not the home teams though)! Absolutely dreadful club at that time and glad they haven't succeeded. I don't usually wish extinction of any club but them at that time deserved it.


    As for hoof ball, there's nothing wrong with it as part of mixing things up, when things aren't working out or as a particular tactic for a particular game/situation. We've certainly been doing far more of it since Yann joined us. However it isn't our default style and to just have that as your first style of football, especially for a big club like Wednesday is pathetic.
    Apparently Wednesday have been playing more on the floor recently but you can tell by the players in their team and the way they immediately reverted to type in a big game, that their default setting is long ball.
    They (and us if it was us) would argue anything within the rules is acceptable for success. I just say it's signs of a poor manager taking the easy option.

  • Cambridge Utd under John Beck were the ultimate hoof ball team.
    He used to keep the grass long down the wings, so the ball didn't run out of play.
    I think they also pioneered the concept of giving the ball-boys towels to dry the balls for throw-ins - for the home side only of course!

  • For those who went what was Gary Madine like?
    Rusty.
    Didn't look match fit. Would have been better coming on as sub later on. Thankfully Megson Cocked up.

  • For those who went what was Gary Madine like?
    a thug in a football kit. One elbow at Taylor and a stamp on the foot. Like his manager, classless.

  • Cambridge Utd under John Beck were the ultimate hoof ball team.
    Without doubt
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  • I remember that match at Upton Park - it was grotesque to watch. The ball was played forward with no real accracy just get it forward as qyuickly as possible- free kick - put it down- don't look up kicl it forward, throw in - throw it forward -. They beat us 1-0 in that game (think Phil Chapple was playing for them) and they just missed out on promotion to th etop division - the problem was that everybody sussed them out and the following season they were relegated.
  • Probably about 85 teams in the Football League that would trade places with Stoke City, who have been the best of the rest in the last few years with their hoof ball style, and so what, fair play to them.
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