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Mark Pitts (big Selwyn) Mins Silence ---?

edited December 2011 in General Charlton
There is a rumour that a meeting was held at The Valley this week to discuss a mins silence for Mark Pitts(Selwyn) at this meeting it was decided that as Mark was a football hooligan he wouldnt get one ! I received this via a text last night and a phone call at 8 AM this morning asking me if this was true. A few issues here :

* Was there a meeting  either about the yearly mins silence or specific to Mark ?
* Was it decided he wouldnt be included as he was a football  hooligan ?


Just for everyones benefit:

* Mark hasnt been involved as any sort of footie herbert for more than 20 years.
* Mark has been attending CAFC games for 30 years
* Check out Cardinal Sins blog " drinking during the game" it says it all about Mark far better than i ever could
* Mark would have been there for ANY   CAFC fan and often put himself on offer when he didnt have to.( to help others). Derby,Coventry,Pompey,Birmingham, Shef Wednesday to name a few times.
* On other sites he has been discribed as " a legend"---" a proper gent"--- " a real man" ------" a true mate"----" The guvnor".  He was all of these.

CAFC should be proud people like MARK PITTS followed them for decades and if its true re his exclusion then SHAME on you.
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  • I would hope when the rememberance game is played and names put on the screen that Selwyn's will be there. If it isn't then a few people should be ashamed of themselves. Let's see what happens.
  • You dont have a minutes silences for fans and I very much doubt they would have a meeting to discuss one person. 


  • Curb it has beaten me too it, I have never witnessed a minutes silence for the loss of a fan but I would like to think his name will be on the big screen on rememberence game day
  • Don't you just hate PC.

    By complete coincidence I was chatting to one of the check out ladies at Aldi, in Swanley, earlier today and knowing I support Charlton she mentioned Selwyn. Although her family are Millwall  they had known him as a good friend for years.

    She said she would be at his funeral on the 30th and the turnout is expected to be huge.
  • Not sure when the minutes applause for all the fans who died in the previous year will be this season but I'm sure any names put forward, including my dads, will be on the big screen.
  • The rumour started from someone who works at the club ( so im told) not a staff member
  • The rumour started from someone who works at the club ( so im told) not a staff member

    There is a minutes applause for Peter Croker, the FA Cup winning player, on Saturday.
  • You dont have a minutes silences for fans and I very much doubt they would have a meeting to discuss one person. 


    If we had a minutes silence for every fan we would have one every game and it will end up being meaningless, and you can't have it for some fans and not others. His name will be on the list with the others during the minutes applause, the club has too much class to exclude him.
  • read above again then

    i  have asked if it was true
    i have asked if there was a meeting either about Mark   or  -- thats or the yearly mins silence
  • Sounds like 2+2 equals 425 to me mate.

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  • edited December 2011

    Don't know why you are getting so hot under the collar, something based on a rumour,  get it verified and maybe its worth talking about.  I am sure the club has other things to do than discuss each fan who has passed away and discuss their merits.

    "CAFC should be proud people like MARK PITTS followed them for decades and if its true re his exclusion then SHAME on you." 

    Presumably, if its not true, then shame on you for pedling dubious information?
  • AFKA  i was asked to post it on here-- i have done that.




    Some still remember Duncan Frames son being asked to remove a George cross flag that was hung up with" RIP Dad" on it----- a good job most people only found out after the match ended ! The person who phoned this morning was pissed off to say the least.

  • edited December 2011
    Pedling dubious information ?  u twat   i was asked to post on here
  • No offence to the fella, but if the club don't hold a minute's silence for the likes of Bob Curtis and Charlie Hall, then im sorry, but they won't do one for a fan. As rightly said, i'm sure his name will be on the rememberance list sometime in the new year.
  • AFKA  i was asked to post it on here--

    But posting on here does nothing but give fuel to a rumour that almost undoubtedly isn't true.

    Who is expected to respond to it ? The club people who post on here, which we are grateful for, work in relation to tickets, coaches, club shop and valley gold.

    If you want something like this confirmed or denied, email Mick Everett, head of Operations at Mick.Everett@cafc.co.UK or his assistant John Little. They would know.
  • If you dont want the thread AFKA pull it sink it or what ever.  I will pass on the email details as you suggest, thank you.
  • I contacted the so called "fans director" about a minutes silence for Duncan, he was very dismissive of the idea.

    Duncans name was on the roll of honour for those that had passed away over the year. Didn't hear about his son & the flag but to be honest nothing would suprise me re the security mob.

  • edited December 2011

    I contacted the so called "fans director" about a minutes silence for Duncan, he was very dismissive of the idea.



    That's complete and total nonsense. 

    It was partly in response to the requests for a minutes silence for Duncan Frame that the "so called fans Director" got the club to start the minutes remembrance for all fans, officials and players who had died in the previous year.  The first time it happened Duncan's name was on the big screen along with the many other much loved and missed fans.

    Since then I think we've had two more and there will be another this season.


  • OK let's put this to bed, I have rung up up my Dad on this & he said there has been NO meeting at the club regarding a minutes silence for Mark Pitts, he also pointed out to me that the club do an annual rememberance for fans & if someone asks for Mark's name to be added to that list of course it will be.

     

    Just to Re-iterate - NO MEETING took place at the club regarding this matter so whoever passed on this information is mistaken.

  • OK let's put this to bed, I have rung up up my Dad on this & he said there has been NO meeting at the club regarding a minutes silence for Mark Pitts, he also pointed out to me that the club do an annual rememberance for fans & if someone asks for Mark's name to be added to that list of course it will be.

     

    Just to Re-iterate - NO MEETING took place at the club regarding this matter so whoever passed on this information is mistaken.

    Thanks for that P.
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  • Pedling dubious information ?  u twat   i was asked to post on here
    Next time I want something posted on here I'll know who to come to then.
  • edited December 2011
    Ketman   many thanks will pass this on.


    AFKA you have email-- thanks.


  • I understand the club may not wish to remember the more colourful characters from our past, like Duncan & Selwyn. However, as a fan  they are as much part of the history as Hales, Mendonca, Curbs etc. These guys were there for many  years man and boy, and I know many of us will never forget them. RIP

  • I understand the club may not wish to remember the more colourful characters from our past,

    Really don't want to drag this on but the Club haven't said they "don't wish to remember" them or anything similar.

    Ketman has clearly said that Mark's name can be included at the annual tribute just as Duncan's was.
  • I contacted the so called "fans director" about a minutes silence for Duncan, he was very dismissive of the idea.

    Duncans name was on the roll of honour for those that had passed away over the year. Didn't hear about his son & the flag but to be honest nothing would suprise me re the security mob.

    I contacted the so called "fans director" about a minutes silence for Duncan, he was very dismissive of the idea.



    That's complete and total nonsense. 

    It was partly in response to the requests for a minutes silence for Duncan Frame that the "so called fans Director" got the club to start the minutes remembrance for all fans, officials and players who had died in the previous year.  The first time it happened Duncan's name was on the big screen along with the many other much loved and missed fans.

    Since then I think we've had two more and there will be another this season.



    Actually you are talking complete & total nonsense, I asked about a minutes silence for Duncan & he didn't want to know.

    Whatever subsequently happened doesn't alter the fact.

    I have already stated that Duncans name was on the roll call ???????

  • Since when have we ever had a minute's silence for any fan? Complete and utter non-subject, started from a rumour, proven to be completely unfounded. No point arguing whether or not someone's potential past misdeeds are or aren't taken into consideration when deciding whether a minute's silence is to be held in their honour when it's never been done before. Move along please - and respect the man and his family.
  • Since when have we ever had a minute's silence for any fan? Complete and utter non-subject, started from a rumour, proven to be completely unfounded. No point arguing whether or not someone's potential past misdeeds are or aren't taken into consideration when deciding whether a minute's silence is to be held in their honour when it's never been done before. Move along please - and respect the man and his family.
    We had a minutes fucking silence for mathew harding a chelski fan ......Selwyn has the respect of all who've known him over many years we don't need you to tell us what to do thanks
  • Since when have we ever had a minute's silence for any fan? Complete and utter non-subject, started from a rumour, proven to be completely unfounded. No point arguing whether or not someone's potential past misdeeds are or aren't taken into consideration when deciding whether a minute's silence is to be held in their honour when it's never been done before. Move along please - and respect the man and his family.
    We had a minutes fucking silence for mathew harding a chelski fan ......Selwyn has the respect of all who've known him over many years we don't need you to tell us what to do thanks
    But don't you see? I'm not telling you what to do. The club is telling you what to do. And don't be silly - the Matthew Harding thing was hardly the same, was it? There was a minute's silence for him all over the country, as there was for the Leeds fans who were stabbed.
  • Don't know why you are getting so hot under the collar, something based on a rumour,  get it verified and maybe its worth talking about.  I am sure the club has other things to do than discuss each fan who has passed away and discuss their merits.

    "CAFC should be proud people like MARK PITTS followed them for decades and if its true re his exclusion then SHAME on you." 

    Presumably, if its not true, then shame on you for pedling dubious information?
    GH was hardly pedling dubious information, he was asking if anyone knew it was true. As a result of his question Ketman confirmed that it is not true, I'm sure this makes GH happy, so I don't really see the problem. Nowhere did GH state it as a fact.
  • Actually you are talking complete & total nonsense, I asked about a minutes silence for Duncan & he didn't want to know.

    Whatever subsequently happened doesn't alter the fact.


    I think I know a bit more about what the fans directors did or didn't do than you do.  

    A minutes silence wasn't possible but it highlighted the fact that there wasn't a way to publicly remember players, officials and fans hence the fans director lobbying the club for an annual remembrance event (which incidently was opposed by Mr A Pardew) and has now become a regular event.
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