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The Daily Fail in Positive Article on CP, Racial Slurs and Charlton - Shock

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  • Lefty Charlton Life member writes derogatory post title about right wing leaning newspaper - shock ;-)
  • A good well written unbiased article
  • Yes, a good article and the point is one I agree with totally. Racism is totally unacceptable in football but it is too easy to look at the numbers of balck managers currently employed. It is better to look at how many clubs have employed black managers - if they have, there can't be racism involved in the process. 

     

    When you take out clubs that have had long standing managers such as Arsenal and of course Man Utd - you will see that a significant number of clubs have been happy to employ a black manager. Surprised nobody has done this sort of analysis though but maybe tehy aren't interested in the truth.

     

    Given the number of black players involved in the game over recent years- 2 managers currently employed by league clubs is much lower than you would expect. But to find a solution you need to understand the problem and just shouting racism isn't it. Is it because black managers don't have role models, inspiring them to become managers for instance - how many black players do their caoching badges compared to white ones? I don't know the hanswers to these questions, but I think they are pretty important ones to ask?

     

    Guaranteed interviews for black candidates as has been championed by some is not going to help - A football club is always going to employ the manager it thinks is most likely to bring them success - and tehir colour will have little or no bearing on this. So yes a problem but not one for knee jerk solutions. Maybe all that is needed is a bit of time - it seems to be the solution in most cases.  
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    Lefty Charlton Life member writes derogatory post title about right wing leaning newspaper - shock ;-)
    You need to get out more. ;-)
  • I've said it before and I'll say it again 

    when I think of Powell I never think of his skin colour. In fact there have been times when people talk about black managers and I forget that ours is one 
  • I've said it before and I'll say it again 

    when I think of Powell I never think of his skin colour. In fact there have been times when people talk about black managers and I forget that ours is one 
    That is surely the way it should be? I have many friends, some of them happen to be black - I don't think of them as my black friends, merely my friends.

    Chris Powell is a legend for us not because he was black but because he wore the shirt with huge pride, his behaviour on an off the pitch was exemplary, and he was the first current Charlton player to be picked for England since Mike Bailey in 1960's. 
  • back off gentlemen he's mine
  • Great footballer, great bloke, great manager, who cares what skin colour he happens to have

  • back off gentlemen he's mine
    I'll fight you for him.
  • Like the way Chrissy is playing this. Acknowledging that he's bound to be asked questions and not ducking his responsibility but at the same time it seems realising that he's Charlton manager and not a politician.
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  • Like the way Chrissy is playing this. Acknowledging that he's bound to be asked questions and not ducking his responsibility but at the same time it seems realising that he's Charlton manager and not a politician.
    Agreed.
  • back off gentlemen he's mine
    I'll fight you for him.
    Suspect Curb_It has prior claim, and the photos to prove it :-)
    You really want to risk the famous headlock?
  • back off gentlemen he's mine
    I'll fight you for him.
    Suspect Curb_It has prior claim, and the photos to prove it :-)
    You really want to risk the famous headlock?
    :-)
  • I've said it before and I'll say it again 

    when I think of Powell I never think of his skin colour. In fact there have been times when people talk about black managers and I forget that ours is one 
    Why don't you have the same attitude to your brother inlaw then?
  • If chris powell is a manager who happens to be black, is phil brown a manager who happens to be orange.
  • If chris powell is a manager who happens to be black, is phil brown a manager who happens to be orange.
    No, he's actually a manager that happens to be a twat!
  • Surely over the next 10-15 years as more black players retire from playing & do their badges etc more will be come managers?

    You'd possibly have expected a few more to have gone for it by now, but if you're looking at players now aged 35-40 looking to enter management you're looking to black players who made their debuts from 1990-1995 really, which there wasn't quite as many, now there are many more playing, once they retire surely the % of black managers will increase.

    Black or white I don't care, I'm more worried about young English managers coming through! Scotland seems to churn them out, where are the young English managers to take charge of England over the next 30 years? Powell could well be in with a shout in a decade if he does a decent job in the prem (hopefully not with you lot)
  • I love the way everyone has a dig at The Daily Mail yet it seem that it is the most linked news site on here.

    As for Chris Powell, Not really bothered about his colour as long as he does a good job thats all that matters.

  • I've said it before and I'll say it again 

    when I think of Powell I never think of his skin colour. In fact there have been times when people talk about black managers and I forget that ours is one 
    Why don't you have the same attitude to your brother inlaw then?
    What do you mean? I lent the twat my season ticket yesterday
  • I love the way everyone has a dig at The Daily Mail yet it seem that it is the most linked news site on here.

     




    Normally because of some right pile of old pony they have trotted out. 

     

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  • Surprisingly good read.
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