Can't agree with you about Romm though. 100+ Danish caps say otherwise. Curbs just didnt work out how to use him effectively
"Dennis in the last minute" has to be placed in the Charlton legends table - if only for that game at Palarse; a bit like Jon Fortune in another game. ;o)
Rommedahl was far from being the worst overseas player in a Charlton shirt, but rarely did we see the best of him.
A player so successful everywhere else he has played, more than 100 caps for his country ..... begs it's own question as to why he wasn't effective at Charlton.
Worst - This is so easy in my opinion, and i'm surprised its not a white wash - JFH. A disgrace in a a Charlton top. I A disgusting attitude and the player I despise the most in football.
Best - Got to be Claus hasn't it. Bartlett's up there as well
Jeez fellas, know your history. Leary isn't our top all time goalscorer - Derek Hales is. Leary has the most league goals, not the same thing.
Anyway, he still gets my vote (though doubt that will be "sexy" enough for 442).
As for worst, either one of Trarore or Faye - the couple of useless overpaid ****s. The blackest day in our clubs history was the day those two signed. Sod the High Court, sod relegation, THAT day still gives me nightmares.
You can't really blame JFH for not celebrating either of his goals, they cam against Middlesbrough and Chelsea, two of his former clubs. I agree that he was completely useless though.
Faye is all that's wrong with many idiotic present day managers, and the modern-agent-scout-lawyer-manager merry-go-round.
Very well put.
Can't agree with you about Romm though. 100+ Danish caps say otherwise. Curbs just didnt work out how to use him effectively
A Curbs mistake - his best position was playing off a central striker and feeding on scraps where his pace would give him the advantage over a defender, but to play in that position in the EPL rather than a European league or internationals you need someone a bit more physical and he didn't have the upper body strength. At a bigger/better club he would have looked a better playerand in internationals where football is closer to chess than athleticism he looks good. Played out wide he had the pace to go past players but not the strength in his legs to put in an accurate fast cross, so his one asset was wasted.
For me our worst international player, especially as he was with the club for a couple of seasons.
The best - Claus Jensen, he had the genuine talent to turn games. Others like Stuart Leary, Eddie Firmani etc were before my time. I don't think I've seen his name mentioned but Hermann Hereidarsson - at least for the first few seasons, the last he was poor, but a player who always put a shift in.
BFR when did Romm play off the front striker? I remember people saying that about Jesper Gronkjaer, but again when he played centrally he looked pretty erratic. Both Gronkjaer and Rommedahl had nearly all their best days as wingers. Rommedahl played with Kezman and Bruggink up front at PSV. Whilst they were great in the Dutch league they were shit in the Champions league being beaten by teams like Anderlecht. I'm sorry but every time he's faced better opposition internationally or in the champions league he's looked shit. Beating and scoring against a wounded France in 2002, ain't much of a return against better teams.
If Gus Hiddink didn't play him in the centre then how did Curbishley miss a trick? Play him behind a front striker, in the centre and you have to be a factor more weeks than not. Doesn't sound much like Rommedahl to me.
Best - Simmonsen: How many other European Footballer of The Year have played for us?
Worst - There have been some aweful ones from Deitmar Bruck to JFH - bit it must go to Troaore, as getting sent off in his debut is just the crowning glory. How on earth did that man get in a team that won the Champions League?
Best- Jensen, class player and such a pity he suffered from injuries as one of the best players to watch we have had in the last 12 years. Never get tired of seeing the goal against Arsenal.
Of the players I've seen, the best has to be Jensen - he was our best player for three seasons in a row, so can't really argue with that level of consistency. I think I'd have to say on balance that leary would be the 'best' - even though I'm too young to have seen him play, a record like his surely means there can't be any real consideration for anyone else?
Worst has to be Faye. The worst player I've ever seen consistently pull on a Charlton shirt.
Although Traore set a very low benchmark, Talal El-khalej was probably even worse. There's possibly another one somewhere in Pardews catalogue of duds, but happily that nightmare is beginning to fade from my mind.
Dunno who the best was - we had good service out of Jensen, Fish, Herman etc plus notable cameos from Simonsen, Costa and Di Canio. Overall you'd have to say Firmani or Leary although I never saw either play, Eddie F was manager when I first went to The Valley, which was nearest I got.
Is that the same Pringle who scored almost one in three at Premiership level and who would possibly have gone on to better things if he hadn't been so horribly injured whilst playing for us. Surely not?
Pringle pulled defences around and created an awful lot of space for Andy Hunt the year we won the title. OK, he could look like Bambi on ice at times but firmly in credit overall. On a similar note, I always thought Steve Jones was Sir Clives best partner.
Best: Jorge Costa. After his loan spell with us he went back to Porto and played successfully in the Champions League and at international level in the World Cup for Portugal. Have we ever had a player of such stature before? Doubtful.
Worst: Cannot split Amdy Faye and Djimi Traore, each time I think I have decided I remember another shite moment from the other player and have to change my mind again.
Rommedahl just scored his 20th & 21st goals in his 111th game for Denmark. Think we had a host of worse players than him and he just didn't show his best for us. Whether that was down to Curbs, the player himself or a combination of the two is open to debate but thought his best spell was when we played a 4-3-3 with Rommers and Thomas either side of Benty with Danny Murphy in behind.
This is why I love football so much. People have such diverse opinions of players, great thread.
Pringle and Rommedahl were both good players with particular strengths that needed to be played to. Pringle was a bit of a trickster who scored a few and created space for others, Rommers was simply an inconsistent winger with so much pace that he left the ball behind him on the odd occasion. They both scored a few and imho deserve a bit more respect.
Anyway, for me the best was Costa (in recent history) - who was simply colossal in that spell he had for us and if Rufus had not had his career so abruptly halted, I'm sure his experiences of working with Jorge would have made him an even better defender than he was and we all loved that already.
Worst, we've had a few, but Traore was utter tosh and JFH did more running to the bank to check his weekly bank balance than he did for the team, which I was a bit gutted about at the time, as he could have had a much more positive influence/experience a la John Barnes, if he'd given two hoots.
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Rommedahl was far from being the worst overseas player in a Charlton shirt, but rarely did we see the best of him.
A player so successful everywhere else he has played, more than 100 caps for his country ..... begs it's own question as to why he wasn't effective at Charlton.
You can't really blame JFH for not celebrating either of his goals, they cam against Middlesbrough and Chelsea, two of his former clubs. I agree that he was completely useless though.
A Curbs mistake - his best position was playing off a central striker and feeding on scraps where his pace would give him the advantage over a defender, but to play in that position in the EPL rather than a European league or internationals you need someone a bit more physical and he didn't have the upper body strength. At a bigger/better club he would have looked a better playerand in internationals where football is closer to chess than athleticism he looks good. Played out wide he had the pace to go past players but not the strength in his legs to put in an accurate fast cross, so his one asset was wasted.
For me our worst international player, especially as he was with the club for a couple of seasons.
The best - Claus Jensen, he had the genuine talent to turn games. Others like Stuart Leary, Eddie Firmani etc were before my time. I don't think I've seen his name mentioned but Hermann Hereidarsson - at least for the first few seasons, the last he was poor, but a player who always put a shift in.
Best - Simmonsen: How many other European Footballer of The Year have played for us?
Worst - There have been some aweful ones from Deitmar Bruck to JFH - bit it must go to Troaore, as getting sent off in his debut is just the crowning glory. How on earth did that man get in a team that won the Champions League?
Best- Jensen, class player and such a pity he suffered from injuries as one of the best players to watch we have had in the last 12 years. Never get tired of seeing the goal against Arsenal.
Worst- Traore edges it for me.
Worst has to be Faye. The worst player I've ever seen consistently pull on a Charlton shirt.
Worst - Radostin Kishishev
(Often in the same game)
Dunno who the best was - we had good service out of Jensen, Fish, Herman etc plus notable cameos from Simonsen, Costa and Di Canio. Overall you'd have to say Firmani or Leary although I never saw either play, Eddie F was manager when I first went to The Valley, which was nearest I got.
Worse- Chris Dickson
Worst by a country mile and then some - Faye
Best - Alan Simonsen
Worst - Jimmy Floyd Moneybanks
Worst: Traore, DIawarra (50 pence head), JFH & Faye
Best: Jorge Costa. After his loan spell with us he went back to Porto and played successfully in the Champions League and at international level in the World Cup for Portugal. Have we ever had a player of such stature before? Doubtful.
Worst: Cannot split Amdy Faye and Djimi Traore, each time I think I have decided I remember another shite moment from the other player and have to change my mind again.
Pringle and Rommedahl were both good players with particular strengths that needed to be played to. Pringle was a bit of a trickster who scored a few and created space for others, Rommers was simply an inconsistent winger with so much pace that he left the ball behind him on the odd occasion. They both scored a few and imho deserve a bit more respect.
Anyway, for me the best was Costa (in recent history) - who was simply colossal in that spell he had for us and if Rufus had not had his career so abruptly halted, I'm sure his experiences of working with Jorge would have made him an even better defender than he was and we all loved that already.
Worst, we've had a few, but Traore was utter tosh and JFH did more running to the bank to check his weekly bank balance than he did for the team, which I was a bit gutted about at the time, as he could have had a much more positive influence/experience a la John Barnes, if he'd given two hoots.