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charing cross morning arrest

edited February 2007 in General Charlton
rather strangely some geezer at charing x this morning got arrested as he was walking towards the barriers at charing x

by those (not quite) police guys. took about 5 people to stop him moving around and get the cuffs on him whilst shouting "what the *** are you trying to do, get the **** off"

sco and i wondered what was going on, seemed a bit bizarre to be arrested on your way to work! he hadn't tried to bunk the fare or it didn't look like it!
imagine getting into work late and trying to explain "I was arrested at 9.15 on a friday morning"

still curious as to why.

Comments

  • probably matched and id of someone on wanted list?
  • Well he sounds gulity to me Suze.
  • [cite]Posted By: DJ Davey Dave[/cite]Well he sounds gulity to me Suze.

    for what, walking?

    he was a proper, what i'd describe as, 'towny'. silly loafers (no socks), narrow leg jeans and crew neck think jumper. (its snowing out man, wear a coat!)

    do they get the (not yet qualified) police to arrest people on the list? surely if they're on the look out they'd get the proper mob to do it

    i reckon he had something dodgy on him, went or a swerve, alerted himself to them for being shifty and then as he resisted got in more trouble.
  • With this new infomation I say he should be hurdled, hung, drawn and quartered. We have to stamp out all this no socks outrage.
  • Sooze - do you mean PCSOs? They haven't got any powers of arrest other than the regular 'citizen's arrest' powers, so it couldn't have been them that collared him. They do have the power of 'detention' for 30 minutes until a copper arrives, but if it was a planned collar, then there's no way they'd be there without 'real' coppers around. I reckon he was a serial fare dodger that had been identified by spotters previously.
  • erm....sco was there, i'm 95% certain they weren't proper police. they did have handcuffs though. maybe they were transport police and therefore looked slightly different.

    there were 2 of them, then a couple of uniformed rail staff came over to help them get him to keep still whilst he tried to wriggle out of it.

    they weren't very strong whoever they were!
  • BTP look like every other constabulary - you couldn't mistake them for PCSOs. I guess they were PCSOs helping out the revenue protection nazis - pound to a penny he'd been spotted going through the gates on someone else's ticket - shoulder surfing them.
  • sounds to me it was a mixture of revenue protection officers with a couple of pc's thrown in to do the arresting.
  • i don't think he was that near to the barriers. but yeah possibly.

    intrieging tho. wonder how he explained that one.
  • Love the picture Leroy!
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  • probably transport police, they do wear a slighly different uniform that tends to have more luminous yellow or orange bits, so very easy to confuse with PCSOs from a distance I would imagine.
  • Yeah - I've seen spotters there in the past noting down people who have pushed through on other people's tickets. Its obviously too much grief trying to catch them in the act, so I reckon they do it ona regular basis then get the CCTV and try to establish some regular faredodgers and have a 'blitz' one day where they try and nick as many as they can.

    The sickening thing is that if the trains were reasonably priced, no-one would bother doing it (well, some still would, but the vast majority wouldn't). There is almost no fare dodging on publoic transport in Spain or Germany for instance - largely because its so cheap to buy a ticket that its not worth the hassle to do it. As an example, my season ticket costs about £1600. An equivalent season ticket for a similar journey in Munich costs around £350 - in Madrid its about £400. An absolute disgrace. If they spent less money on employing the revenue gestapo they could knock the fares down enough to cut fare dodging in half.
  • [cite]Posted By: Off_it[/cite]Love the picture Leroy!

    What - Sid James?

    Comic genius that man
  • They were pretty crap at putting cuffs on, I know that much. Had a sign that took up most of their backs to fit in some convoluted name:

    "British Part Time Politically Correct Non Aggressive Except When Provoked Transport Revenue and Protection Police-ish Force"

    I think.

    The geezer should have run off and uttered the immortal words:

    "You'll never catch me alive copper!"
  • Was it a black man? I walked past a bloke at around 8.30 and he was a nutter.
  • [cite]Posted By: Leroy Ambrose[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Off_it[/cite]Love the picture Leroy!

    What - Sid James?

    Comic genius that man

    Leroy, i think he means the cup of tea one, although sid is a great pic dude.
  • [cite]Posted By: ns_eb_rj_s?[/cite]Was it a black man? I walked past a bloke at around 8.30 and he was a nutter.

    nope, about 23ish, white and small. trendy hair cut and a gob on him when he got his arm grabbed.
  • These priks aint got nowt better to do have they. He was prob just going to work, how would you explain that away at work! Now they could prob have another unempoyed dood wandering the streets! mugs the old bil and transport gastapo! get rid of the buskers and tramps before picking on commuters!
  • edited February 2007
    [cite]Posted By: MCS[/cite] Leroy, i think he means the cup of tea one, although sid is a great pic dude.

    No, no - I did mean the Sid James one. I just love his boat - quality.
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: Leroy Ambrose[/cite]The sickening thing is that if the trains were reasonably priced, no-one would bother doing it (well, some still would, but the vast majority wouldn't). There is almost no fare dodging on publoic transport in Spain or Germany for instance - largely because its so cheap to buy a ticket that its not worth the hassle to do it. As an example, my season ticket costs about £1600. An equivalent season ticket for a similar journey in Munich costs around £350 - in Madrid its about £400. An absolute disgrace. If they spent less money on employing the revenue gestapo they could knock the fares down enough to cut fare dodging in half.[/quote]


    A monthly "regiokarte" that gave me unlimited access on buses, trams and trains throughout the bottom half of Baden-Wurttemberg used to cost me €40 a month/ca £27. Not bad considering the mileage I got from it - around 2 hours of commuting a day. The subsidy was around 50%, so even without that it would be worth it. The State government out here wants fewer people to drive when they could take public transport.
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