He was an average player in a very poor team, shame about his knee etc but even fully fit he wouldn't be good enough for us now (judging on his performances for us)
He was playing at Left Back when he's a centre back so was never going to look great! The time he did play in the middle he looked decent. Shame about the knee
Also think playing as left back in the cup match at Spurs wrecked his confidence - he got torn to bits by Andros Townsend. Real shame to hear about his knee, as certainly thought he had potential at centre back.
No. Lacks pace as a full back (Green mullered him at Daggers last season), and lacks strength in the air at centre back (Brentford directed high balls at him at Griffin Park last season and he was easily out-battled). Positional play was also poor at Colchester, where he was also mullered. We need to sign Championship standard players.
No. Lacks pace as a full back (Green mullered him at Daggers last season), and lacks strength in the air at centre back (Brentford directed high balls at him at Griffin Park last season and he was easily out-battled). Positional play was also poor at Colchester, where he was also mullered. We need to sign Championship standard players.
Agreed with all of that, he was decent in league 1 at best IMO.
It would seem that he was released from West Ham so he has signed a permanent contract until the end of this season.
It does make me wonder if his latest injury has finished him off there. He is 21 and hasn't payed much at Championship or above and West Ham fancy themselves as a Premier League club, but were always keen to keep him 'for the future'.
I do agree, though, that he never looked real class for us in the third division, which he should have done if he was going to make it in the Premier League.
yer Allardyce never liked him, he lives just round the corner from me and was unhappy at his treatment at the start of the season. Spoke 2 him earlier when I was walkin the dog, he said he doesnt want to move up north permanently. He phoned Powelly when he was told he was being released but Powell said he didnt want him. Has suffered with injuries but its more been 1 persistent one than being injury prone, I think its unfair to label him a crock. Will end up playing league 1 football minimum IMO
Sorry, I wasn't suggesting he is a crock, just that having missed a lot of this season (when the Hammers have been in the Championship) means that he has been unable to establish himself, and it will be even harder to do so in the Premier League.
im very surprised we didnt get him. i really rated him, hes young with plenty of potential and can play in a number of positions. plus we could have got him on a free.
he would have fought with cort for a centre back position, and most importantly would mean doherty would be even further away from the first team (if he isnt already that is)
The answer is no .. he's too short for a modern central defender. His future lies at full back or possibly left sided midfield
Not good enough for us I'd agree but height isn't his problem. He's 6 ft, same as Morrison.
Might work his way back to the Championship if things work out for him, but then that depends on a lot of things.
No one rated Cranie but he's played Champ football for a few years now. Fry's still very young for a defender and I'm sure he'd improve with games.
OK.. he looks shorter than that !! I wish him all the best, he tried hard for us and now appears to have no future at West Ham .. Bradford is a sleeping giant of a club and if PP can get his and the club's acts together, Fry might have a career there.
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Has had a few trials lately, Burnley last week but his knee swells up like a balloon every time he plays
As he is no Ledley King I expect he will be non league fairly soon
Didnt help that Allardyce didn't rate him or look after him but the end result will be the same
It does make me wonder if his latest injury has finished him off there. He is 21 and hasn't payed much at Championship or above and West Ham fancy themselves as a Premier League club, but were always keen to keep him 'for the future'.
I do agree, though, that he never looked real class for us in the third division, which he should have done if he was going to make it in the Premier League.
He deserves a career though and, given their woeful defence at the moment, I'm amazed he didn't get a gig at Gillingham.
he would have fought with cort for a centre back position, and most importantly would mean doherty would be even further away from the first team (if he isnt already that is)
Might work his way back to the Championship if things work out for him, but then that depends on a lot of things.
No one rated Cranie but he's played Champ football for a few years now. Fry's still very young for a defender and I'm sure he'd improve with games.