It was an adminstrative part of Kent and Surrey upto 1855, the traditional county boudary between Kent and Surrey in the greater London area is the River Quaggy/Deptford creek.
Which is why Kent County Cricket club played match at Blackheat until the earl 1970`s, and Surrey`s home ground is the Oval.
I thought the Kent / Surrey boundary was the Ravensbourne and before that the Poole River and not the Quaggy . The Quaggy runs through Eltham and Lee Green . Places like Beckenham are within the old boundaries of Kent whereas as Dulwich / Croydon etc are in Surrey .
Kent County Cricket Club recognised Bexley , Bromley and Lewisham as their London boroughs.
Classy move by Gold and Sullivan to fire Grant after the game...its very trivial but has me wondering how did Grant get home from Wigan...I don't think he would have been allowed on the team bus or would he?
I thought the Kent / Surrey boundary was the Ravensbourne and before that the Poole River and not the Quaggy . The Quaggy runs through Eltham and Lee Green . Places like Beckenham are within the old boundaries of Kent whereas as Dulwich / Croydon etc are in Surrey .
Kent County Cricket Club recognised Bexley , Bromley and Lewisham as their London boroughs.
I am happy to be corrected Richard, these are the old boundaries before London was formed. But this is why Charlton are a Kent football lub and in the past we had players for Kent CC, I can think of only one Charlton player who played cricket for Surrey but I am happy to be corrected.
It was an adminstrative part of Kent and Surrey upto 1855, the traditional county boudary between Kent and Surrey in the greater London area is the River Quaggy/Deptford creek.
Which is why Kent County Cricket club played match at Blackheat until the earl 1970`s, and Surrey`s home ground is the Oval.
Correct although 1855 is not the date when Charlton officially left the administrative county of Kent. That was in 1889 at the formation of the County Of London. At that time Deptford, Greenwich, Woolwich, Lee, Eltham, Charlton, Kidbrooke and Lewisham were transfered out of Kent, followed by Penge in 1900.
Before anyone gets too excited, Gold and Sullivan oversaw several yo-yo seasons at Birmingham - don't expect a mass exodus of players and expect the Hamsters to be challenging for promotion next season.
Still, nice to see em get relegated all the same.
I don't think Brum were a Billion dollars in the red though.
In an act of supreme anorakness, I found the link below.
I thought that some of you might like to make the pilgramage to the Vesta Rd/Pepys Rd roundabout just by Telegraph Hill to see the historic marker between the glorious land of Hengist (not just a county, but a kingdom to boot) and the land of, erm, Simon Jordan (and Croydon, hideous stripey football tops etc.). Knock yerselves out.
I think that we can all agree that Charlton is considerably east of that line and thus not only in the greatest city in the world, but also the greatest and most historic county in England. I like to think of our beloved CAFC as the pride of both sarf London and kent. Yay us.
So as you were formed in 1905, you were formed when Charlton was part of London, thereby a London club, not Kent?
Charlton has always been in Kent. They just changed the council administrative boundaries that's all. Its like saying that Manchester isn't in Lancashire, just because they have created a new borough. The County of London was created in the 19th Century having never existed prior to that.
It is correct to say that Charlton is historically in Kent but also in London.
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It was an adminstrative part of Kent and Surrey upto 1855, the traditional county boudary between Kent and Surrey in the greater London area is the River Quaggy/Deptford creek.
Which is why Kent County Cricket club played match at Blackheat until the earl 1970`s, and Surrey`s home ground is the Oval.
I thought the Kent / Surrey boundary was the Ravensbourne and before that the Poole River and not the Quaggy . The Quaggy runs through Eltham and Lee Green . Places like Beckenham are within the old boundaries of Kent whereas as Dulwich / Croydon etc are in Surrey .
Kent County Cricket Club recognised Bexley , Bromley and Lewisham as their London boroughs.
I suspect well over 50% of our support comes from kent, maybe 70%. So maybe we are a Kent club who have their ground in london.
i saw Kent play at Blackheath a couple of times around 1969/1970 inthe Sunday league it was packed.
However we are a Sarf LOndon club and always will be ----FACT
@TheRedRobin we've got plenty of fans in Kent. & disturbingly too many who come over from Germany, Sweden, Italy, Holland, Scotland, etc.
as you were formed in 1905, you were formed when Charlton was part of London, thereby a London club, not Kent?
As most of Millwall's fanbase were London dockers when you were formed surely that makes you an East End club?
In an act of supreme anorakness, I found the link below.
I thought that some of you might like to make the pilgramage to the Vesta Rd/Pepys Rd roundabout just by Telegraph Hill to see the historic marker between the glorious land of Hengist (not just a county, but a kingdom to boot) and the land of, erm, Simon Jordan (and Croydon, hideous stripey football tops etc.). Knock yerselves out.
I think that we can all agree that Charlton is considerably east of that line and thus not only in the greatest city in the world, but also the greatest and most historic county in England. I like to think of our beloved CAFC as the pride of both sarf London and kent. Yay us.
http://transpont.blogspot.com/2011/01/kent-surrey-border-se14.html
Oh, and aren't our friends from the rusty toolbox interlopers from the Isle of Dogs (Middlesex)? Shoo spanners, shoo!