we went 10 winless games when Parky took charge (following on from 8 under Pardew) we have currently gone 10 games without a win with Powell in charge in the first Prem season we went 13 games without a win (Curbs)
PS Curbs +1 if you count cup games, personally I wouldn't as they are a different kettle of fish
I seem to remember that Theo Foley also went 10 games without a win in the '71/'72 relegation season. Remember talking about it on the coach to that last disaster at Blackpool.
Foley went 12 league games without a win straddling the 71/72 & the 72/73 seasons. That run was ended by a win at Rochdale. Firmani went 14 league games without a win in 69/70.
1. Jimmy Seed 16 Games 1954/55 - 1955/1956 Division One. 8 Draws, 8 Defeats
2. Andy Nelson 15 Games 1978/1979 Division Two. 5 Draws, 10 Defeats
3. Eddie Firmani 14 Games 1969/1970 Division Two. 8 Draws, 6 Defeats
=4th. Bob Stokoe 13 Games 1965/1966. Division Two. 6 Draws, 7 Defeats
=4th. Alan Curbishley 13 Games 1998/1999. Premiership. 4 Draws, 9 Defeats
=6th. Theo Foley 12 Games 1971/1972 - 1972/1973. Division Two - Division Three. 3 Draws, 9 Defeats. (No wins in the last 10 games saw us Relegated)
=6th. Lennie Lawrence 12 Games 1989/1990 - 1990/1991. Division One - Division Two. 2 Draws, 10 Defeats. (6 defeats in last 6 Div One games)
=8th. Alex McFarlane 11 Games 1931/1932 Division Two. 2 Draws, 9 Defeats
=8th. Chris Powell 11 Games and Counting 2010/2011 League One. 3 Draws, 8 Defeats
10. Phil Parkinson 10 Games 2008/2009. Championship. 3 Draws, 7 Defeats
=11th. Jimmy Trotter 9 Games 1956/1957 Division One 9 Defeats
=11th Frank Hill 9 Games 1964/1965 Division Two 4 Draws, 5 Defeats
=11th Mike Bailey 9 Games 1979/1980 Division Two 2 Draws, 7 Defeats
=11th Alan Pardew 9 Games 2006/2007 - 2007/2008 Premiership - Championship. 5 Draws, 4 Defeats
15. Alan Curbishley/Steve Gritt 8 Games 1994/1995 Division One 4 Draws, 4 Defeats
=16th. Walter Raynor 7 Games 1921/1922 and 1923/1924 Division Three South
=16th. Alan Mullery 7 Games 1981/1982 Division Two
=16th. Iain Dowie 7 Games 2006/2007 Premiership 2 Draws, 5 Defeats
=19th. Albert Lindon 5 Games (twice) 1927/1928 Division Three South
=19th. Ken Craggs 5 Games 1982/1983 Division Two 1 Draw, 4 Defeats
21. Les Reed 3 Games (twice) 2006/2007 Premiership
22. David Clark 2 Games 1961/1962 Division Two
=23rd. Les Gore 1 Game 1973/1974 Division Three
=23rd. Keith Peacock 1 Game 2010/2011 Division Three 1 Draw
Pain is more acute when the winless streak is in the equivalent of the lowest division. The worst we had in this division was Alex MacFarland during the 1925-26 season: 8 games, (4 draws, 4 defeats) . With 3 draws and 8 defeats, Powell has given us the most painful series in our history.
[cite]Posted By: adrian[/cite]Pain is more acute when the winless streak is in the equivalent of the lowest division. The worst we had in this division was Alex MacFarland during the 1925-26 season: 8 games, (4 draws, 4 defeats) . With 3 draws and 8 defeats, Powell has given us the most painful series in our history.
[cite]Posted By: adrian[/cite]Pain is more acute when the winless streak is in the equivalent of the lowest division. The worst we had in this division was Alex MacFarland during the 1925-26 season: 8 games, (4 draws, 4 defeats) . With 3 draws and 8 defeats, Powell has given us the most painful series in our history.
Pain is also acute when the expectations are greater (which definately links in with your divisional theory) - I wonder if the expectations during the 1925-26 season were as high as they are now ?
[cite]Posted By: davy[/cite]The difference here is that we've now gone 11 games without a win in League 1/Div 3! All the other records were in Prem/Div 1 or Championship/Div 2?!?
Yes but we've now got league 1 players.
I've only been around since Curbs so cant speak for the other runs but I wouldn't like to say it hurts any more now than it would have then. Yes now its fresh in our minds and its painful but I don't think you can say its worse just because we are in a worse league. If we still had premiership players and didn't win for 11 games in league 1 then yes, that's awful.
I'm sure I'm in a minority but I don't think you can compare two sets of results (from such different periods) and say 1 is definitely worse than the other.
The full list of all 24 managers are now on this thread. Best to ignore Messrs Clark, Gore and Peacock as they were Caretaker managers, and had 9, 3 and 1 game in charge resprectively. Also Reed was only in charge for 7 League games.
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Parky and Powell both have 10. Pardew 8 Curbs 9.
we have currently gone 10 games without a win with Powell in charge
in the first Prem season we went 13 games without a win (Curbs)
PS Curbs +1 if you count cup games, personally I wouldn't as they are a different kettle of fish
It's an OMEN, I tell thee ........!
Or maybe not!
2. Andy Nelson 15 Games 1978/1979 Division Two. 5 Draws, 10 Defeats
3. Eddie Firmani 14 Games 1969/1970 Division Two. 8 Draws, 6 Defeats
=4th. Bob Stokoe 13 Games 1965/1966. Division Two. 6 Draws, 7 Defeats
=4th. Alan Curbishley 13 Games 1998/1999. Premiership. 4 Draws, 9 Defeats
=6th. Theo Foley 12 Games 1971/1972 - 1972/1973. Division Two - Division Three. 3 Draws, 9 Defeats. (No wins in the last 10 games saw us Relegated)
=6th. Lennie Lawrence 12 Games 1989/1990 - 1990/1991. Division One - Division Two. 2 Draws, 10 Defeats. (6 defeats in last 6 Div One games)
=8th. Alex McFarlane 11 Games 1931/1932 Division Two. 2 Draws, 9 Defeats
=8th. Chris Powell 11 Games and Counting 2010/2011 League One. 3 Draws, 8 Defeats
10. Phil Parkinson 10 Games 2008/2009. Championship. 3 Draws, 7 Defeats
=11th. Jimmy Trotter 9 Games 1956/1957 Division One 9 Defeats
=11th Frank Hill 9 Games 1964/1965 Division Two 4 Draws, 5 Defeats
=11th Mike Bailey 9 Games 1979/1980 Division Two 2 Draws, 7 Defeats
=11th Alan Pardew 9 Games 2006/2007 - 2007/2008 Premiership - Championship. 5 Draws, 4 Defeats
15. Alan Curbishley/Steve Gritt 8 Games 1994/1995 Division One 4 Draws, 4 Defeats
=16th. Walter Raynor 7 Games 1921/1922 and 1923/1924 Division Three South
=16th. Alan Mullery 7 Games 1981/1982 Division Two
=16th. Iain Dowie 7 Games 2006/2007 Premiership 2 Draws, 5 Defeats
=19th. Albert Lindon 5 Games (twice) 1927/1928 Division Three South
=19th. Ken Craggs 5 Games 1982/1983 Division Two 1 Draw, 4 Defeats
21. Les Reed 3 Games (twice) 2006/2007 Premiership
22. David Clark 2 Games 1961/1962 Division Two
=23rd. Les Gore 1 Game 1973/1974 Division Three
=23rd. Keith Peacock 1 Game 2010/2011 Division Three 1 Draw
And all but Curbs were sacked soon after.
Spot on.
Pain is also acute when the expectations are greater (which definately links in with your divisional theory) - I wonder if the expectations during the 1925-26 season were as high as they are now ?
Yes but we've now got league 1 players.
I've only been around since Curbs so cant speak for the other runs but I wouldn't like to say it hurts any more now than it would have then. Yes now its fresh in our minds and its painful but I don't think you can say its worse just because we are in a worse league. If we still had premiership players and didn't win for 11 games in league 1 then yes, that's awful.
I'm sure I'm in a minority but I don't think you can compare two sets of results (from such different periods) and say 1 is definitely worse than the other.