The problem....

chris_7

In my eyes the problem is not Powell, its the players he has available. Yes some of his squads aren't typically great, I still think Powell should should be at least given till next November/December. Allows him to bring in his own set of players and drop the dead-wood and then I will pass my judgement on how good he is as a manager.

WSS

The same players that we were sitting 5th with automatic promotion in our own hands?

People should take their Powell Tinted Glasses off...

nolly

yes its quite boring now.

J BLOCK

What WSS said.

conza-cafc

I'm afraid it's typicall Charlton mucking up the second half of the season

BigRedEvil

A manager should be able to get the best out of what he has. CP in his pre match conferences has been looking for a response for the past 8 games and he hasn't got it.

Does he have the support of the players?

Well seeing as we may be in for big changes in the summer, then they are probably not that bothered and it doesn't help half the team is now full of loanee youngsters.

It's a big mess, just thankful that we only need a couple more points to be safe from relegation.

nolly

you need brutes in your team,this has to be the nicest set of players ever.

Mendonca In Asdas

The players didn't look up for it , our midfield was non existent , other than that i thought we played well in the last 10 minutes, if it hadn't been for the humour provided by the Daggers Keeper , dancing and doing forward rolls on the pitch , i think i'd have the hump tonight , at the moment i feel let down yet again , its a recurring theme.

Did anyone see Chris Powells face BEFORE the game ? he didn't look very happy , as he walked around the pitch.

Friend Or Defoe

Powell was a gamble, one which didn't work.

swords_alive

Hearing from a different source that the problem started after Varney announced to a supporters meeting that most of the squad were not having contracts renewed at the season's end. If true that could account for the current slide. In previous seasons, the case was made that our bonus system was geared up to reach 40 points, and after that the players stopped. Either way this lot are not sufficiently motivated and or do not have enough self-pride to to try to retain a high leagure position.

LargeAddick

[cite]Posted By: swords_alive[/cite]Hearing from a different source that the problem started after Varney announced to a supporters meeting that most of the squad were not having contracts renewed at the season's end. If true that could account for the current slide. In previous seasons, the case was made that our bonus system was geared up to reach 40 points, and after that the players stopped. Either way this lot are not sufficiently motivated and or do not have enough self-pride to to try to retain a high leagure position.

that message seems to have been given out but only this week as far as I'm aware so doesn't account for the slide before today. Anyway, even if true shouldn't they be trying to impress for a contract elsewhere ?

carly burn

Who'd take Wise now?

Hate to say it but i think i probably would.We are playing some of the highest quality cack football i think i've ever seen!

Madz

I am so frustrated with the way we are playing and the results. I don't honestly think the board should have gone with an untested manager as a replacement for Parkinson, but we have Powell now and have to live with it. Replacing him now just shows we panic when things go bad. Yes we do have a right to panic, its our club that is slowly going down, the swanny, but we are already a laughing stock for the amount of managers we have had since Curbs. We need some stability, but we also need the players to believe they can turn things around. That is down to Powell and Dyer to sort out. Powell also needs to pick the right players, although that is hard to alter with the injuries we have.

My heart says he will turn things around, but my brain says how?

If what Varney has said is true and the players know this no wonder they can't be bothered to try for us. Would you? When i was told i was losing my job i didn't put myself on the line for the company anymore. They have shown no loyalty to me so why should i to them. These players will be of the same opinion. A decent Manager should NOT have said anything as stupid as that before the end of the season. You tell the players that contract talks are on hold until the end of the season and they need to earn their new ones. I really hope that Varney was not that stupid and that this is just a rumour. If it is fact then what an effing idiot.

Madz

[quote][cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: swords_alive[/cite]Hearing from a different source that the problem started after Varney announced to a supporters meeting that most of the squad were not having contracts renewed at the season's end. If true that could account for the current slide. In previous seasons, the case was made that our bonus system was geared up to reach 40 points, and after that the players stopped. Either way this lot are not sufficiently motivated and or do not have enough self-pride to to try to retain a high leagure position.[/quote]

that message seems to have been given out but only this week as far as I'm aware so doesn't account for the slide before today. Anyway, even if true shouldn't they be trying to impress for a contract elsewhere ?[/quote]

Not necessaryily. Amdy Faye, Djimi Traore, Neil Redfern, Francis Jeffers, etc; players who were cr#p for us but still went to other clubs. Any decent agent will get their player to another club no matter how they are playing for us right now.

Rothko

Even if the players know, you would expect them to at least try and impress future employers with their work.

Also the revisionism of some of the last couple of months of the Parkinson reign is funny

dickplumb

[quote][cite]Posted By: chris_7[/cite]In my eyes the problem is not Powell, its the players he has available. Yes some of his squads aren't typically great, I still think Powell should should be at least given till next November/December. Allows him to bring in his own set of players and drop the dead-wood and then I will pass my judgement on how good he is as a manager.[/quote]
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No you have won the most blinkered award

addickted_to_cafc

It's all well and good saying that there is going to be a player exodus in the summer because of rebuilding blah blah blah, but what if that rebuilding ends up happening in league 2? It's about the here and now that counts and sorting out the players there now. They are capable of doing the job, it's just bad man management, not just from powell

boogica

someone mentioned mccormack looks like louis spence well i thought that we had eleven of them on the pitch today they played like a load of pansies my boy tackles harder than that lot on the pitch today they really do look like they have given up .

AllLeftFoot

I'm curious as to where we are going to find this new squad of world-beaters to lead us to promotion glory next season.

We might have a bit more cash to play with, but the prices we will pay will no doubt rise accordingly, and we're going to have convince them why they should come to us in the first place.

charltonbob

Biggest mistake was giving the job to powell, I said so at the time & I've seen nothing from the plymouth game till now to suggest I was wrong.

2nd biggest mistake was appointing dyer. if we're going to have an untried manager at least bring in an experienced no.2. it's a no brainer surely, even palarse brought in Lennie lawrence while powell dithered for 2weeks before coming up with the mind numbing choice of westhams reserve coach.

This is a gamble that has failed, bring in somebody now, call them director of football to save face if neccessary. To just write off this season is madness, why the squad wasn't addressed in january i don't know. It was obvious to everybody that we needed at the very least a Centre back & a creative midfielder. The loan window has come & gone, somehow we won CPs first 4 games to put us in a great position with games in hand to grab that 2nd automatic spot. Did powell decide that we didn't need to strengthen the team or did the board not back him ? Can't imagine it's the latter as we've just brought in leaburns younger less talented brother & the cost of hay alone must be fairly high.

We are dropping like a stone & would be in a relegation place now had it not been for those 4 wins at the start of CPs reign, there is of course still time for us to grab a relegation spot. I just don't see another win between now & the end of the season, it's going to be tight !!!

Danny Addick

It was a sentimental appointment that hasn't worked out. He wasn't ready, he'd not been an assistant manager, or even a coach for very long!

Parky was way better than this, end of. I'm not saying we didn't need a change but it turns out we've got a massive downgrade.

As for what to do now, I don't have a clue.

Red5

[cite]Posted By: Danny Addick[/cite]It was a sentimental appointment that hasn't worked out. He wasn't ready, he'd not been an assistant manager, or even a coach for very long!

Parky was way better than this, end of. I'm not saying we didn't need a change but it turns out we've got a massive downgrade.

As for what to do now, I don't have a clue.

I think ALL of us who thought Powell was an exciting/inspired move need to own up and admit we were wrong, we got too emotional about that appointment and it has backfired badly, badly I say. Hands up everyone?

Mendonca In Asdas

What happened to players having a pride in their work , the majority of this lot couldn't give a stuff and it shows badly, players if they want to be here next season should be busting a gut for the club, if they don't want to be here fine , but your nOt doing your career prospects good by playing crap, how thick are footballers?

Mendonca In Asdas

Or supporters for that matter who keep putting capital letters in the middle of a word ;)0

favershamaddick

Red5,

I am holding my hands aloft.

My heart still says that Powell will get there in the end, however, from his very first game to now, there really doesn't appear to be any glimmer of cohesion or tactical nous and that really hurts me to say that, thought the writing was on the wall when he appointed Dyer.

Sometimes, you can be on a losing run but genuinely see that things are improving, whether that be in morale, team spirit, dogedness or determination etc etc, sadly, we have not seen any of these qualities.

I am now tiring of the people who say that this is not Powell's team and that we should give him a chance, if we could see any one of the aforementioned traits, I would wholheartedly agree, very sadly, we haven't.

I think Chris Powell is a man of honour and I think he is realising that this job is not for him (at the moment) and I predict that he will fall on his own sword.