Is anybody else getting fed up with people saying its time for Powell to go. I know in recent games we have not been playing well at all, but I thought we showed improvement in today's game
His main problem is the players. He has a squad badly built by Parky and none of the players seem to care. This may be because there isn't much competition for places at the min with so many injuries.
Also, it doesn't help him using his substitutes so late on in a game. Another 10 minutes earlier would give them a chance to make an impact on the game.
Who is saying that, though? I don't think I've read it on here - some grumbles, but no 'Chrissy out'. It would be silly for anyone to say that after 5 games.
I think our main problem today was the referee. Obviously I know we have to create our own luck, but some of those officiating decisions were diabolical (handball in the area in the last few minutes)
Ridiculous to even think CP should go. Turning Charlton is a long term project and he needs and will be given time by the board. I just hope that they also come through with some decent financial support too. Radical surgery in the summer to the squad. Nothing else will do.
[cite]Posted By: Wheresmeticket?[/cite]He needs time in the job, and a sane response. I think we're all feeling a bit shellshocked by the freefall the team has gone into.
[cite]Posted By: BensonFC[/cite]His main problem is the players. He has a squad badly built by Parky and none of the players seem to care. This may be because there isn't much competition for places at the min with so many injuries.
Also, it doesn't help him using his substitutes so late on in a game. Another 10 minutes earlier would give them a chance to make an impact on the game.
[cite]Posted By: Carter[/cite]Maybe Parkinson was not totally to blame then? It's the players who cross the line not the manager.
IMO there was nothing so wrong with Parky. He was unlucky. He'd just got manager of the month FCS. Then he was given the boot by the board. Okay. Well, so it goes. Unfair - certainly. But that is what the new board will do. Parky - he would probably have done no better nor worse than Sir Chris. Nevertheless asking us to sack Sir Chris is just plain stupid - I mean who would say that - who would SAY that FFS? Probably the same knobs that said Charlton would do better without Curbs back in the day.
[cite]Posted By: Carter[/cite]Maybe Parkinson was not totally to blame then? It's the players who cross the line not the manager.
IMO there was nothing so wrong with Parky. He was unlucky. He'd just got manager of the month FCS. Then he was given the boot by the board. Okay. Well, so it goes. Unfair - certainly. But that is what the new board will do. Parky - he would probably have done no better nor worse than Sir Chris. Nevertheless asking us to sack Sir Chris is just plain stupid - I mean who would say that - who would SAY that FFS? Probably the same knobs that said Charlton would do better without Curbs back in the day.
Give the bloke a chance!
Parky won't unlucky, you could see a difference with Powell lately.
I don't think we would have won against Boro under Parky because one thing that I liked about Curbs was have a player sticking next to the goalpost which saved us conceding goals. Powell did that and Maccormack cleared off the line. Parky never done that. Also after match press conference's under Parky it was all about Refereee this Referee that but under Powell he sounds constructive.
[cite]Posted By: Petefromcornwall[/cite]Who is saying that, though? I don't think I've read it on here - some grumbles, but no 'Chrissy out'. It would be silly for anyone to say that after 5 games.
If I could be bothered I would point you in the direction of where that is apparently being written - but it's only by idiots (and people that don't pay up on their charity bets) so there's no point giving them the oxygen of publicity.
Of course it's right to question a rookie managers creditials. But to write them off completely and call for the head after such a short time in the job is ludicrous.
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I don't think we would have won against Boro under Parky
That would be why we beat them 5 - 1 away under Parky.
He's gone, move on. All this "we would/wouldn't have done this under Parky" is both guess work and pointless. We'll never know but if you are going to guess at least back it up with better examples than that one.
[cite]Posted By: Petefromcornwall[/cite]Who is saying that, though? I don't think I've read it on here - some grumbles, but no 'Chrissy out'. It would be silly for anyone to say that after 5 games.
If I could be bothered I would point you in the direction of where that is apparently being written - but it's only by idiots (and people that don't pay up on their charity bets) so there's no point giving them the oxygen of publicity.
Of course it's right to question a rookie managers creditials. But to write them off completely and call for the head after such a short time in the job is ludicrous.
Agree but we have long had a halo and horns culture around the fan base. Every player, manager, coach and board member is either a saint or the devil (although this may change game by game) and there is no middle ground, no grey between the stark black or gleaming white.
Not paying up for a Charity bet for the Charlton Upbeats is poor, very poor. I know you are better than that, Paul. I know you are reading this so do the honourable thing.
Lets look forward nor back and see how the dawn that we thought would come with the new board and CP can be achieved, not worry how we got to where we are today. The team we have today is the team we have today. We know it is capable because it has proved itself to be so. CP is a young manager who is finding his feet and talk of getting rid now whether you agreed with his appointment or not (I was in the not camp) is ludicrous. The fans and the board need to keep the faith, the board need to support CP in his hunt for loanees.
We have just completed a run of games that were distinctly winnable, we now have a run of tough games coming up which will determine our position at the end of the season. We need to get behind the boys if we are to maximise our points total.
[cite]Posted By: Kap10[/cite]Lets look forward nor back and see how the dawn that we thought would come with the new board and CP can be achieved, not worry how we got to where we are today. The team we have today is the team we have today. We know it is capable because it has proved itself to be so. CP is a young manager who is finding his feet and talk of getting rid now whether you agreed with his appointment or not (I was in the not camp) is ludicrous. The fans and the board need to keep the faith, the board need to support CP in his hunt for loanees.
We have just completed a run of games that were distinctly winnable, we now have a run of tough games coming up which will determine our position at the end of the season. We need to get behind the boys if we are to maximise our points total.
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Not paying up for a Charity bet for the Charlton Upbeats is poor, very poor. I know you are better than that, Paul. I know you are reading this so do the honourable thing.
Henry, I've tried gentle reminders and have asked other people to remind him for me, but still no payment. "Before Christmas" I was told - but I forgot to ask what year.
So, I know you're reading this - you can't help yourself, why don't you just be a man about it and pay up. It was a friendly bet and you lost. No need for animosity or threats, just pay up. Thanks.
Why is there such animosity between the Into the Valley messageboard and this forum? I for one enjoyed your posts on Into the Valley Offit and i dont know all of the details of why you were banned, nor do i want to. But for Henry to put up the fact that Paul has not paid up a Charity bet on a public forum is a low blow and is frankly not right. I am not saying that not paying a bet to Charity is right either, but he shouldnt be trying to belittle someone publicly, that is a step too far. There is room for diverse views on both forums, without all this personal and frankly tiresome oneupmanship.
[cite]Posted By: Off_it[/cite]Never said you were an idiot dick. You're one of the few reasonable posters on ITV.
For the record, as I have already whispered - note "whispered - to someone else on here the full story is that during one of his usual rants Reams bet me £20 that we would be bottom six by Christmas and another £20 that we would be relegated (so he actually will owe £40 in due course!). I took him on that but said that if I won my "winnings" would go to the Charlton Upbeats and sent him the just giving link. Since then I've reminded him a couple of times and - since I got banned from his site (for disagreeing with him) - I've had a couple of other people give him "gentle" remiders for me. But he still hasn't paid. That's low. He doesn't owe me the money - he owes it to the charity.
So now, almost three months later people are choosing to publicly remind him of the fact that he STILL hasn't paid up. If you think that's low then fair enough, but so is not paying up on a charity bet after numerous "friendly" prompts and reminders.
The point is it is up to his own conscience if he pays or not. It should not be put on a public forum. Personally if i had made a bet and lost i would pay up straight away. I believe that Reams has now said that he will hand over the £20.00 in person to a poster on Into the Valley. That should now be the end of it, well at least until the end of the season.
If you continually failed to pay up to a business after your private reminders (post/phone calls etc) then you would be pursued publicly (through the courts/notices of insolvency) as it’s clearly in the public interest to know who unreliable payers are whose word can’t be taken.
Applied in a Charlton context it seems fairly reasonable to me that this issue has been made public on Charlton message boards, lest anyone else enter into a similar agreement. Particuarly when the people who have really lost out are a group of disabled individuals trying to represent our club.
Edit - has the person who hasn't paid up (I don't know them at all) had a chance to give his side of the argument or have they just ignored all reminders ?
ITTV makes Your Views look like a catalogue of reasonable, well thought out arguments. Which is probably why there are about five members.
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Also, it doesn't help him using his substitutes so late on in a game. Another 10 minutes earlier would give them a chance to make an impact on the game.
Whilst I know this is only a small amount of people, it is still a select few who believe this
Spot on.
Agreed
IMO there was nothing so wrong with Parky. He was unlucky. He'd just got manager of the month FCS. Then he was given the boot by the board. Okay. Well, so it goes. Unfair - certainly. But that is what the new board will do. Parky - he would probably have done no better nor worse than Sir Chris. Nevertheless asking us to sack Sir Chris is just plain stupid - I mean who would say that - who would SAY that FFS? Probably the same knobs that said Charlton would do better without Curbs back in the day.
Give the bloke a chance!
Parky won't unlucky, you could see a difference with Powell lately.
I don't think we would have won against Boro under Parky because one thing that I liked about Curbs was have a player sticking next to the goalpost which saved us conceding goals. Powell did that and Maccormack cleared off the line. Parky never done that. Also after match press conference's under Parky it was all about Refereee this Referee that but under Powell he sounds constructive.
Totally agree with you on the Curbs comment - you need a defender on the post. Curbs knew how to manage a team.
If I could be bothered I would point you in the direction of where that is apparently being written - but it's only by idiots (and people that don't pay up on their charity bets) so there's no point giving them the oxygen of publicity.
Of course it's right to question a rookie managers creditials. But to write them off completely and call for the head after such a short time in the job is ludicrous.
Agree but we have long had a halo and horns culture around the fan base. Every player, manager, coach and board member is either a saint or the devil (although this may change game by game) and there is no middle ground, no grey between the stark black or gleaming white.
Not paying up for a Charity bet for the Charlton Upbeats is poor, very poor. I know you are better than that, Paul. I know you are reading this so do the honourable thing.
We have just completed a run of games that were distinctly winnable, we now have a run of tough games coming up which will determine our position at the end of the season. We need to get behind the boys if we are to maximise our points total.
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Henry, I've tried gentle reminders and have asked other people to remind him for me, but still no payment. "Before Christmas" I was told - but I forgot to ask what year.
So, I know you're reading this - you can't help yourself, why don't you just be a man about it and pay up. It was a friendly bet and you lost. No need for animosity or threats, just pay up. Thanks.
Means nothing. I've got one too and I'm an idiot.
I personally know quite a few.
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That's right; universities are full of idiots.
The point is it is up to his own conscience if he pays or not. It should not be put on a public forum. Personally if i had made a bet and lost i would pay up straight away. I believe that Reams has now said that he will hand over the £20.00 in person to a poster on Into the Valley. That should now be the end of it, well at least until the end of the season.
Applied in a Charlton context it seems fairly reasonable to me that this issue has been made public on Charlton message boards, lest anyone else enter into a similar agreement. Particuarly when the people who have really lost out are a group of disabled individuals trying to represent our club.
Edit - has the person who hasn't paid up (I don't know them at all) had a chance to give his side of the argument or have they just ignored all reminders ?
ITTV makes Your Views look like a catalogue of reasonable, well thought out arguments. Which is probably why there are about five members.