[quote][cite]Posted By: Big William[/cite]Leeds away play off 1987...there was a bloke hanging off a motorway bridge trying to kick the coach as we got there which was just the warm-up act[/quote]FFS!!!
We went to a pub in Leeds last season after being told it was away friendly, everyone there bar us were covered in Leeds Utd tattoos with thick Yorkshire accents and they were all massive. I didn't want to risk saying anything as I took the pints out so just grunted which did the trick! Outside a guy in the group was on the phone as loud as you like with a clear Southern accent and not dressed like the locals, for the first time in a while I only had half my pint! We then saw a 40 old year old Yorkshire lady dressed like Pamela Anderson in the film barb wire!
For me it was walking towards Molineux when I lived in the Midlands in the sixties to see Wolves against Man Utd, only to see that the Man Utd fans had kicked out the panels of the top of one end, and you could see the backs of the supporters. Anyone falling through would have been killed.
[cite]Posted By: Valley McMoist[/cite]Most intimidating game I went to was at Stamford Bridge on Boxing Day in 1975. Kicked off in the North Stand big time and when we pulled into Earls Court on the way back, they were on the platform waiting for us. Scary stuff for a 16 year old.
+1, we left a couple of mins before the end and got ambushed behind the stand by Chelsea, some black guy with one arm was directing the troops and telling them who to attack, I learnt after he was one of their top boys at the time, got a right kicking and my mate got stabbed (not serious) and had his shoes nicked. We had to buy him a pair of trainers before we went home and by the time we got to the tube the game had finished and Chelsea were all over the place.
Old bill advised us to keep moving on the platform and not to stand next to them as they did not want to end up on the live rail as well!!!!!
Chased us all the way to Charing X, boy was I glad to get home that night
[cite aria-level=0 aria-posinset=0 aria-setsize=0]Posted By: BR7_addick[/cite]Never been to Leeds or Birmingham or Stoke, I've heard they're intimidating places, obviously not as bad these days of course, wish I'd of gone Leeds last season.
Of stories I hear from my old man, and Uncle who's Chelsea, Maine Road and Anfield always were hostile in the 80s.
Leeds last season wasnt intimidating in the slightest. Wasnt a great experience either as it was a 0-0 with the wind playing havoc. Probably different at a night game when they play man utd though obviously.
kind of lose's its intimidation when the stewards are throwing out supporters for standing. great day out tho despite the hurricane.
[cite]Posted By: southamptonaddick[/cite]Leeds in the second leg play-off at Elland Road.
I did not enjoy this game at all. The boys behind the goal were climbing the fences 1.5 hours before kick off,
[cite]Posted By: Southendaddick[/cite]Surely Chelsea 1988 deserves a mention.
I thoroughly enjoyed this game. I know it is wrong but the fighting seemed to add to the excitment. If I remember correctly, the Chelsea 'fans' were ejected from our end and then led along the pitch and let back in to the Chelsea end.
I remember the last game of the season up at st andrews was pretty bad when they needed a win to stay up and they were winning 1-0 and then big fat pete had a shot from miles out that hit the bar in the last minute and i think that was the only time i was really really pleased we didnt score because they where baying for blood all game. but it ended 1-0 and they had a pitch invasion which went down ok and palace got sent down that day by arsenal and there was a big party in the away end too so everyone was happy
Back to BR7's original comment about the Den. My mother used to go to the Valley in the years just before WW2. She tells me the only game that her father banned her from was when Millwall were coming over. So they were bad then!
Leeds for the play-off was very bad. We decided not to risk a pub and ended up drinking cans on a street corner. I seem to recall about 600 or so of us there. There have been some hairy moments at the Valley though. Possibly the worst was Millwall in the Kent Cup. Kicked off everywhere in the ground if you let it be known you were Charlton. Even more strangely was Bexley Uniteds last match at Welling in maybe 1975 against Spurs. A 'friendly' that was far from it.
There's some good threads on the Charlton Loyal forum if you like reading about this sort of thing, not that I'm trying to glorify this stuff but it is interesting.
Jimmy Garret was not Scottish. The guy your thinking of was Scots Willy who turned up with Waldren and Garret in the 70z. Sadly Jimmy took his own life a few years ago and another name from the past (Steve Hopkins) found his body.
England 3 Hugary 1 --1981 70,000 against 400.
The Valley vs NilWall in 70z score was 2v2 (keening 2 for us) and it made the national papers--not for the football.
Birmingham once was naughty and once when all the Welling skins were there wasnt ---funny that how they just melted away the Zulus.
Cambidge in the 70s --- 2 mins after geting off the train a guy walk out the pub and glassed a chap in the face.
Walsall in butchers coats when the guy next to me got stabbed and the guy a few feet away was knocked cold with a house brick
yep football was much better in the old days.
PS Chelsea in 88 wasnt hostile--- unless you was a Chelsea fan.
The Old original Den was always intimidating, they were vile back in the day, even when they were winning. Coming back from Fulham in the 70's we ran into Chelsea on the circle line at one of the stations which was pretty chaotic, the tube then went straight through the next station and then there was a bomb scare just to top it all off. At the Valley we had some mighty battles (and massacres) against Wednesday, Cardiff, Pompey, Sunderland, West Ham, Chelsea Spurs and a small but nasty crew from Forest around 1978
Some really great away days at Brighton, Palace,Pompey, Chesterfield, Cardiff, Hull, Shrewsbury, Carlisle
I was at St Andrews for the play off final final against leeds and remember looking at the ground towards the end and there were thousands of them trying to pull the fences round the pitch down. Had to walk quite a distance through town to get to our car with my dad and my mates (we were about 15) and my dad refused to take his scarf off and was talking and buzzing about the result for the whole walk. That was a 10 minute walk where i was just waiting to get smashed but to be fair, although we walked past thousands of them they must have respected the fact that it was just a bloke and 4 kids.
Leeds in the second leg play-off at Elland Road. They were actively looking for Charlton supporters and I really thought that we were in trouble. I remember during the game I could see a car park and some Leeds fans who wrer locked out just swarmed all over this copper who was on his own. But how sweet was it when we held on and then won the replay. I will always remember Jimmy Melrose in a suit and coat before the match playing keepy up with a ball that the Leeds fans had thrown onto the pitch making as though to kick it back to them and then kicking it into our enclousure loved it they went mad.Very scary.
[cite]Posted By: Macronate[/cite]West Ham (9 sec goal)-more mental than hostile
QPR in the tube station
Ipswich when we had Norwich supporters in with us
Chelsea '88
Was the QPR one at White city when Chelsea turned up spraying Amonia? If it is that one then I remember them get ran quite easily.
[cite]Posted By: stonemuse[/cite]Chesterfield ... Blimey Tel, haven't thought about that one in a while.
Definetly an old school day out ;-)
Funniest was when I was 12 or 13. Me and a mate went bedecked in silk scarves, rolled up jeans, 11 eyelet DM's to Watford away, it was my first away not accompanied by family/adults.....we paid at the turnstyles and went onto the Terrace.....the ground started to fill and pretty soon we were surrounded by Watford having no idea that we had gone into their end.....Just before kick off a copper came over and said I think we better move you two boys down the other end for your own good.....we got walked around the touchline and got a standing ovation from the Charlton end and of course we lapped up the praise for being so gutsy to go in the home end.....never mind we were really just a couple of terrified 13 year olds...We managed to do the same again a couple of years later at Gillingham too....by which time we were hardly innocent, but very lucky not to have got a kicking.
Late sixties, Arsenal North Bank, about 150 of us . . . More pennies thrown than at the mint.
Millwall home and away through 60's and 70's. To this day I remember only Charlton women singing at those matches.
Chelsea away '88. Their 'hero's' started whacking women and kids in our end and then begged to get let out of the fencing. Another poster was right, they were applauded by their fans as they walked back around the touchline and up into the old west stand. (I have only included this because of the effect it had on our 'non-combatants'.)
And don't forget, the Valley can be intimidating too. I will never forget when we played Palace and the whole ground, including the Directors box, stood chanting and and pointing at Tangoman. Wonderful.
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We went to a pub in Leeds last season after being told it was away friendly, everyone there bar us were covered in Leeds Utd tattoos with thick Yorkshire accents and they were all massive. I didn't want to risk saying anything as I took the pints out so just grunted which did the trick! Outside a guy in the group was on the phone as loud as you like with a clear Southern accent and not dressed like the locals, for the first time in a while I only had half my pint! We then saw a 40 old year old Yorkshire lady dressed like Pamela Anderson in the film barb wire!
As for the question, Ukraine away last season.
I was only a kid but near the corner where it all went off.
Slighly intimidating for a 10 year old.
+1, we left a couple of mins before the end and got ambushed behind the stand by Chelsea, some black guy with one arm was directing the troops and telling them who to attack, I learnt after he was one of their top boys at the time, got a right kicking and my mate got stabbed (not serious) and had his shoes nicked. We had to buy him a pair of trainers before we went home and by the time we got to the tube the game had finished and Chelsea were all over the place.
Old bill advised us to keep moving on the platform and not to stand next to them as they did not want to end up on the live rail as well!!!!!
Chased us all the way to Charing X, boy was I glad to get home that night
kind of lose's its intimidation when the stewards are throwing out supporters for standing. great day out tho despite the hurricane.
I did not enjoy this game at all. The boys behind the goal were climbing the fences 1.5 hours before kick off,
I thoroughly enjoyed this game. I know it is wrong but the fighting seemed to add to the excitment. If I remember correctly, the Chelsea 'fans' were ejected from our end and then led along the pitch and let back in to the Chelsea end.
Thats him, I can still see him now standing on a wall directing his troops.
I seem to remember Barry Fry wrestling one of his players to the ground in some weird bonding ritual after the final whistle.
Been on our board a few times about the train that broke down or something. Can't remember though whether the CR's made an appearance or not.
Most hostile from my experience would probably be a west ham or leeds away, although wouldn't say they were as bad as expected inside the ground.
Outside obviously had to have your wits about you. Budapest probably was the most hairy/nervous I've been at a football match.
QPR in the tube station
Ipswich when we had Norwich supporters in with us
Chelsea '88
There have been some hairy moments at the Valley though. Possibly the worst was Millwall in the Kent Cup. Kicked off everywhere in the ground if you let it be known you were Charlton.
Even more strangely was Bexley Uniteds last match at Welling in maybe 1975 against Spurs. A 'friendly' that was far from it.
England 3 Hugary 1 --1981 70,000 against 400.
The Valley vs NilWall in 70z score was 2v2 (keening 2 for us) and it made the national papers--not for the football.
Birmingham once was naughty and once when all the Welling skins were there wasnt ---funny that how they just melted away the Zulus.
Cambidge in the 70s --- 2 mins after geting off the train a guy walk out the pub and glassed a chap in the face.
Walsall in butchers coats when the guy next to me got stabbed and the guy a few feet away was knocked cold with a house brick
yep football was much better in the old days.
PS Chelsea in 88 wasnt hostile--- unless you was a Chelsea fan.
Some really great away days at Brighton, Palace,Pompey, Chesterfield, Cardiff, Hull, Shrewsbury, Carlisle
Country: Ukraine couple of years ago. Most worried I have ever been at football!!
Was the QPR one at White city when Chelsea turned up spraying Amonia? If it is that one then I remember them get ran quite easily.
Definetly an old school day out ;-)
Funniest was when I was 12 or 13. Me and a mate went bedecked in silk scarves, rolled up jeans, 11 eyelet DM's to Watford away, it was my first away not accompanied by family/adults.....we paid at the turnstyles and went onto the Terrace.....the ground started to fill and pretty soon we were surrounded by Watford having no idea that we had gone into their end.....Just before kick off a copper came over and said I think we better move you two boys down the other end for your own good.....we got walked around the touchline and got a standing ovation from the Charlton end and of course we lapped up the praise for being so gutsy to go in the home end.....never mind we were really just a couple of terrified 13 year olds...We managed to do the same again a couple of years later at Gillingham too....by which time we were hardly innocent, but very lucky not to have got a kicking.
Millwall home and away through 60's and 70's. To this day I remember only Charlton women singing at those matches.
Chelsea away '88. Their 'hero's' started whacking women and kids in our end and then begged to get let out of the fencing. Another poster was right, they were applauded by their fans as they walked back around the touchline and up into the old west stand. (I have only included this because of the effect it had on our 'non-combatants'.)
And don't forget, the Valley can be intimidating too. I will never forget when we played Palace and the whole ground, including the Directors box, stood chanting and and pointing at Tangoman. Wonderful.