What about Steve Clarke?

StoneChurchGremlin

Yes, he has only managed Newcastle for one game BUT as coaching experience goes, he has it in abundance. After all, he served as Mourinho's and Avram Grant's right-hand man and that deserves an accolade for tolerance and patience alone, quite aside from being part of the set-up that took Chelsea to their first two PL titles in fifty years, and to within a few inches of a Champions League triumph in Moscow (those few inches being the woodwork, obviously).

Yes, his record was somewhat slightly blemished last season at West Ham but that could be put down to off-field shenanigans and the players (as can be seen replicated under Grant at Upton Park season).

The only stumbling block could be wages/pay, but he is out of work and he wouldn't need to relocate a million miles away.

Otherwise, I hear on some authority that the board are said to be considering Peter Taylor- but given that he hasn't exactly been an emphatic success at Bradford this season (they lie 10th), gven his Palarse credentials (as a former player and one of the hilariously shit, over-hyped managers there), and let's not forget his first shocking season at Hull, and the way that Leicester imploded and went from title-challengers to relegation certainties in a few months, I would rather tell him to foxtrot oscar.

WSS

Good idea - can't believe nobody has mentioned him. ;-)

I struggle to accredit too much to Clarke for Chelsea's success considering they quite possibly had the best manager and most money in the world at the time.

Scoham

Clarke, maybe, no idea how he'd do, what type of football he'd play, what he knows about players outside the Prem

Taylor - no!

nichorob

I'd take Wise over Peter Taylor.

Madz

I think Clarke would be a good shout to be honest. Coached at a higher level and maybe wants to work his way up as a manager.

Clarke - Manager
Wilkins - Coach ???

Unlikely though as i doubt we could afford either salary.

Ideally i'd like to avoid all Palace ties to managers so that the fans will give the new guy a chance.

StoneChurchGremlin

To be honest, I'd take anyone over Peter Taylor, and that's not just out of pure partisanship.

People may say 'yeah, but he won at the League One play-off final at Wembley with Gillingham'. But any pikey will tell you that was because he inherited a brilliant squad from their previous manager (Pulis?).

Bexley Dan

[cite]Posted By: Madz[/cite]I think Clarke would be a good shout to be honest. Coached at a higher level and maybe wants to work his way up as a manager.

Clarke - Manager
Wilkins - Coach ???

Unlikely though as i doubt we could afford either salary.

Ideally i'd like to avoid all Palace ties to managers so that the fans will give the new guy a chance.

Please not the relegation usher, Wilkins - he's been a disaster everywhere other than Chelsea because the team always picked itself.

Pavo

I'd take a Wise/Clarke combo. Wise's track record in management looks pretty good on paper, but how much of that was down to his 1st team coach e.g. Poyet? Clarke's experience and record to date coaching has been very good. All of these names may be well beyond our means for all we know though. Far too much dark smoke around to be able to get any read on what is happening, other than the new owners being decisive and having a ruthless streak, which is no bad thing.

McLovin

Moanrinho and Grant haven't been kicking down any doors to sign him up as a manager. Was on a spectacular sum for a coach at Chelsea and Wham. As in real life, some people are good at leading and some people are good at other jobs. I'm not convinced Clarke or Wilkins is the ideal leader.

StoneChurchGremlin

'Clarke - Manager
Wilkins - Coach ???'

As you said Madz- we could never afford both, so out of the question. As for the 'avoiding Palace ties..' etc, well, we gave Pardew a chance (although yes he played for us too)? And to be honest, it was only when the results went against us AND we could see Dowie making less-than-astute signings that we started to get pissed off with Earthworm Jim. My objections to Peter Taylor are more to do with his track record, but are compounded by his Palace connections.

StoneChurchGremlin

McLovin- could that be because he doesn't speak either Italian or Spanish? Could it also be because that at Real Madrid the manager doesn't get that much autonomy over his choice of assistant and playing squad (and to a lesser extent at the Milan clubs)?

And Grant couldn't re-employ him because he already had decided to walk away from his post at West Ham.

Granpa

Clarke surely is worth consideration, but when you hear some of the names being mentioned it gives hope for a good choice. One thing is certain, it's a lot more exciting supporting Charlton right now than it is most other Clubs. Possibly with the exception of Blackburn who seem to have been taken over by some very strange people with even stranger ideas.

shirty5

Clarke did an article with the Times around March 2010, saying the next job that he takes, he wants to be his own boss.

Scoham

[cite]Posted By: shirty5[/cite]Clarke did an article with the Times around March 2010, saying the next job that he takes, he wants to be his own boss.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/west_ham/article7061264.ece

Interesting quote from Mourinho

“[This is what I think about Steve Clarke: if, at this moment, he had the chance to manage a club, even a big club like Chelsea, he would be ready for that. He is that good.” — Jose Mourinho

Good experience after playing as well, and only 47.

Having assisted others for so long, Clarke feels the time is approaching to help himself to a manager’s job. It isn’t that he is unhappy at West Ham, where is contracted until 2013, it is just that he won’t be content until he has given being No 1 a go. “It’s the last one to be ticked off,” he says. “I’ve done all the groundwork. I’ve done everything. I’ve been the player, the youth team coach, the European scout, the assistant manager, first-team coach, I’ve worked with a whole spectrum of players, now it’s time for me to be the guy who makes the decisions and takes the stick. To have done so much to get to this stage and not give it a go would be foolish. I have to try it. I just need somebody to give me the opportunity.”

creepyaddick

I have been told by west ham and chelsea fans that he would be very good for us
Maybe he is the one?

The Red Robin

Out of all the candidates mentioned as our next manager, Alan Curbishley aside, Steve Clarke is by far the strongest and one the majority of Charlton fans would be happy with him. I honestly do not think Wise will be next manager, although I expect him to be involved somewhere.

redman

they don't know him as a manager. he has never been a manager!
Neither does he know anything about football outside the prem.
Big no - same as a lot of names mentioned.

The successes in this league have been people like lambert, grayson, adkins (with scunthorpe), poyet and jackett
people from the lower leagues - anyhting ex prem would be a disaster

Benny Hill

Anyone got any thoughts on Zola? I think the next appointment will tell us all we need to know about the new owners.

dabos

[cite]Posted By: redman[/cite]they don't know him as a manager. he has never been a manager!
Neither does he know anything about football outside the prem.
Big no - same as a lot of names mentioned.

The successes in this league have been people like lambert, grayson, adkins (with scunthorpe), poyet and jackett
people from the lower leagues - anyhting ex prem would be a disaster

All of those didn't know any about the lower leagues until they started. It's still the same game in the Premiership as it is in League 1.

It's like saying we wouldn't want Mourinho as manager because he doesn't know anything about lower league football.

ShootersHillGuru

I think that sometimes choosing a manager is a bit like choosing a shirt. Some people go for top labels i.e Boss or Calvin Klein whilst others prefer M&S. At the end of the day there is probably little difference in quality but much in presentation and perseeved style. I just don't see Slater and Jimenez choosing M&S so I for one expect Hugo Boss or at least his footballing equivalent.

Oggy Red

I think a manager is generally only as good as his assistant/coach.

There are bound to be a few exceptions, but generally speaking.

Scoham

[cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]I think that sometimes choosing a manager is a bit like choosing a shirt. Some people go for top labels i.e Boss or Calvin Klein whilst others prefer M&S. At the end of the day there is probably little difference in quality but much in presentation and perseeved style. I just don't see Slater and Jimenez choosing M&S so I for one expect Hugo Boss or at least his footballing equivalent.

Lets hope we don't end up with a fake Hugo Boss shirt then. Looks genuine and impressive at first but it falls apart within a year or so.

nichorob

means little but he's odds just been shortemed in the last hour from 11/1 to 7/1 joint 3rd fav now.

kingston

Steve Clarke ! as far as I know is a Southend United fan who became a Charlton VIP director after moving to London !

allez les addicks

[cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]

[cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]I think that sometimes choosing a manager is a bit like choosing a shirt. Some people go for top labels i.e Boss or Calvin Klein whilst others prefer M&S. At the end of the day there is probably little difference in quality but much in presentation and perseeved style. I just don't see Slater and Jimenez choosing M&S so I for one expect Hugo Boss or at least his footballing equivalent.

Lets hope we don't end up with a fake Hugo Boss shirt then. Looks genuine and impressive at first but it falls apart within a year or so.

We should manage to avoid that, tbh I can't see Pardew leaving Newcastle.....