I realise that performances at the Valley have been dire this season, however
The atmosphere is really poor. There is a feeling of doom and gloom around the place even before kick off.
One misplaced pass and the moaners start. It is becoming depressing going to The Valley
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No way, it's far worse now!
Yep, the new North stand killed it, passable when it was full in the Premiership but never recaptured the old D/E/F block spirit. The expansion was needed at the time though.
Sadly that's the comparison that ran through my mind, too.
The feeling I got was that there was a real desire to usher in a new era under new owners, but a widespread feeling that Parkinson is a hinderance rather than a help to that. He is so much part of the old regime and so tainted by his association with the years of failure (having been with us while we dropped through three divisions) that he cannot be part of the future.
New owners. New era. New hope. New Valley. New start. New manager....it's all interlinked and Slater and Jiminez need to exploit the moment right away because it might not last for long (think of how Blair wasted all the goodwill back in 1997...)
When we play good attacking football the crowd get behind the team but it's really hard to sing when the team constantly season after season are devoid of any ideas apart from hoof it upfield. It's not enjoyable to watch
I'm certain that opposition managers say to have a real go at us for the first 20 minutes and the crowd will get on the players back.
Oh and there is nothing wrong with that, I'm just as depressed as the next fan sitting near me, but still don't stop me breaking my voice!
then we would have a new sound, snoring
I know and feel the same
Just wish everybody else did.
Booing isn't just at The Valley either happens everywhere
When you say ''When we have good spells in games the crowd do get behind the team'' Just wondering how many at a guess??
Sadly very true. Football is dying.
Although you have some additional circumstances that make you more silent than most;
1 - fans that a few years ago were watching Ronaldo, Henry and Gerrard at the Valley have huge expectations and are now watching Sunday league stuff, doesn't help generate positive attitudes and just means the moans start earlier!
2 - the ground is premiership/championship size...not league 1 size. 14k in a 27k stadium is depressing (again, been there with regular 7k crowds with 300 away fans at the Den, it's rubbish)
Could it be worth shutting blocks down so you squeeze more of the crowd in together? Shut the upper tier? (saves costs too) Move away fans when there is a small following into a side stand & close the Seed?
8,000 plus season ticket holders might not be happy if (when) their bit is shut!
Does seem to be a 21st century malaise.
I suppose people are used to watching wall-to-wall top standard matches on TV, it seems almost everyday.
So why don't Third Division teams play like that?
And at Charlton, fans can't tolerate the fact that for example Simon Francis is no Gareth Bale, but they still expect him to be.
Like Len said on another thread, it's getting hard to relate to the attitudes of many modern football fans.
It never used to be like this - even when Charlton were just a regular 2nd/3rd tier side, serving up inconsistant mediocre football.
At least the crowd used to get behind them.
Okay, Parky's gone as many wished for - and it's a new start.
Maybe a new start for a change of attitude amongst some of our fans? It would help.
Yeah cause no one ever moaned then did they......
I fear your eyes are misted by the past. The Valley has always had its fair share of complainers and has lacked the atmosphere of some other grounds. However, we are a long way from being the worst and we can be loud and exciting when the game promotes it.
It's just a little too easy to always blame the fans. Something else Charlton fans have always loved to do.