[cite]Posted By: Airman Brown[/cite]Some of the arguments being forward here seem pretty strange to me. We did protect regular away supporters (whether or not they are season-ticket holders) by putting people with four away games in the first priority. It's a less than perfect mechanism, but it's there. We've used it for some time. People have no reason not to know about it, but they haven't bothered to keep their stubs, buy on matchdays, etc. I would suggest they need to take some responsibility instead of asking the club to prioritise people who it cannot be identify because of their own actions (I am not including the person who sent stubs in the post).
If people haven't been to four away games this season and are not season-ticket holders then they don't really have any basis to expect to be able to buy tickets or to abuse people who do buy season tickets and don't usually travel away.
As for the point about people who are season-ticket holders and have been to FA Cup games, regardless of its merits it wasn't necessary. Any season-ticket holder who wanted a ticket could have phoned yesterday afternoon, got through quickly and bought one. They had another chance this mornning.
No two games are alike, allocations vary and demand is unpredictable. We learn things every time and this was no exception, but overalll this has been a pretty successful operation in the club's opinion.
As someone who missed out because of the postal service, I have to say I have little criticism for the way the club handled the allocation. I think it was prioritised in the correct way and that it is only right and proper that fans who make that bit more effort to get to less glamourous games during thin times should get first dibs when a big draw comes up.
I guess the one question I would ask is was there scope to allow a bit more time for some of us further flung Addicks, who might have qualified for the first round of sales, to get our applications in? I accept my position of having enough away stubs but nothing registered on the clubs records put me in a pretty small niche but given that there are still 3 Saturdays until the Spurs game and that the tickets were always likely to go within a day or two of going on more general sale, was there really such a rush to open up the eligibility?
Like I say though, I have no real complaints. I've been a bit unlucky with circumstance as I was working away from home on the Thursday and Friday last week so couldn't do anything about retrieving my away stubs and getting a letter in the post until the weekend and then the post let me down. Thems the breaks. I also know people at the club do work hard to do right by the fans - someone from the ticket office once met us outside Portman Rd before the play-off semi final as there wasn't enough time to get tickets posted out to us. It's a relatively small gesture but an example of how Charlton do go a bit above and beyond for us if they can and I don't think there's much need for all this belly aching. Demand out-stripped supply - deal with it.
Where I would agree with CafcAndy is that it's a pity many of these 4,350 haven't been at some of the away games this season. Orient away was enjoyable, and Peterborough was fantastic. I'm kicking myself for not going to Swindon or Carlisle. When so many of our better performances have been on the road, it's a pity for some fans that they'll only go to what'll probably be a beating at the hands of a reserve team. I am NOT calling them plastics, just saying that this season would've been more enjoyable for them if they had been able to go to some of the other away matches. But such is life. Hopefully it'll be such a great performance that it'll galvanise the fanbase for the rest of the season.
... and I have no problem with how the tickets were allocated. The Spurs match was low-priority for me, but I would've understood if I had wanted them and missed out.
Airman well done for implementing common sense and having the wherewithall to turn things around after the Swindon debacle. The club are doing all they can proportionate to the funds at their disposal.
I have a wife and young daughter who who I like to spend time with. As I have a job that keeps me from home from early morning to early evening, weekends are when I can do this. I have been a season ticket holder for 25 years and I still cannot bring myself to miss a home game whether cup or league. Up until the birth of my daughter I went to many an away game.
In my circumstances I need to choose the away games I go to now. Spurs (and Orient this season so far) is my choice, so to people who think this is wrong, I really do not care and hope you have a good time at Spurs as I certainly intend to whatever the result.
My mate got our tickets this morning. Must of been the last few. I can't believe people are moaning about this, 4k Charlton fans, not far to travel and hopefully we can keep the score down to single figures! I joke... On another note I do think it would be a good idea to introduce some sort of point system to go along with the red card. Every away match you buy tickets for you would get your card swiped and be given a point. The longer distance matches perhaps two points for there to be more incentive to go. Then when it comes to a situation like this people with 5+ points have priority. Saves mucking around with stubs. I think Millwall do that.
Done plenty of away games in years gone by, virtually all some seasons in late 80's and 90's but pick and choose my away games now. Went to Barnet - what a 'shocker' that was and luckily am getting a couple of hospitality tiickets off my mate for the Steve Perryman lounge. Biggest problem is who to take with me - Dad, Brother or Son?
[quote][cite]Posted By: RalphMilnesgut[/cite]I have a wife and young daughter who who I like to spend time with. As I have a job that keeps me from home from early morning to early evening, weekends are when I can do this. I have been a season ticket holder for 25 years and I still cannot bring myself to miss a home game whether cup or league. Up until the birth of my daughter I went to many an away game.
In my circumstances I need to choose the away games I go to now. Spurs (and Orient this season so far) is my choice, so to people who think this is wrong, I really do not care and hope you have a good time at Spurs as I certainly intend to whatever the result.[/quote]
Well Said totally agree but seems people choose to ignore posts like this
[cite]Posted By: BR7_addick[/cite]Respect to ALL fans that go everyweek, including the riffraff, and pensioners.
You would definately class me as riffraff haha, but coin throwing is discusting what ever cunt done that
[cite]Posted By: mascot88[/cite]If we got promoted the away following would increase..
It is all to do with perfromance on the pitch...
That is entirely inaccurate. Our away following in the premier league years was, on the whole, very poor. We took something like 400 or 500 to Villa Park in our final season, and around 1000 to spurs, for example. Regardless of our 'performance on the pitch', apart from special occasions such as new grounds or absolutely vital, make or break games (or when the club take our supporters for free), our away support is poor.
what the sturge said
we had the worse away following in the championship the year we got relegated and for a club with the home support we had that season and with clubs like plymouth,barnsley, blackpool and doncaster in the same league we should never have finished bottom of the away fans table!
[cite]Posted By: oohaahmortimer[/cite]can you believe it a thread titled "away following" i click on it and people are talking about away followings ....disgraceful please sink
But surely you get fed up saying the same stuff all the time? I'm not saying you're right or wrong, that's not the point, I just don't understand why we KEEP having this discussion over and over again. What does it achieve? It is what it is, so we just have to get on with it.
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As someone who missed out because of the postal service, I have to say I have little criticism for the way the club handled the allocation. I think it was prioritised in the correct way and that it is only right and proper that fans who make that bit more effort to get to less glamourous games during thin times should get first dibs when a big draw comes up.
I guess the one question I would ask is was there scope to allow a bit more time for some of us further flung Addicks, who might have qualified for the first round of sales, to get our applications in? I accept my position of having enough away stubs but nothing registered on the clubs records put me in a pretty small niche but given that there are still 3 Saturdays until the Spurs game and that the tickets were always likely to go within a day or two of going on more general sale, was there really such a rush to open up the eligibility?
Like I say though, I have no real complaints. I've been a bit unlucky with circumstance as I was working away from home on the Thursday and Friday last week so couldn't do anything about retrieving my away stubs and getting a letter in the post until the weekend and then the post let me down. Thems the breaks. I also know people at the club do work hard to do right by the fans - someone from the ticket office once met us outside Portman Rd before the play-off semi final as there wasn't enough time to get tickets posted out to us. It's a relatively small gesture but an example of how Charlton do go a bit above and beyond for us if they can and I don't think there's much need for all this belly aching. Demand out-stripped supply - deal with it.
In my circumstances I need to choose the away games I go to now. Spurs (and Orient this season so far) is my choice, so to people who think this is wrong, I really do not care and hope you have a good time at Spurs as I certainly intend to whatever the result.
In my circumstances I need to choose the away games I go to now. Spurs (and Orient this season so far) is my choice, so to people who think this is wrong, I really do not care and hope you have a good time at Spurs as I certainly intend to whatever the result.[/quote]
Well Said totally agree but seems people choose to ignore posts like this
You come to the valley and queue up, then you'll really know who wants to go!
Becuase not everyone is near to the Valley or can just drop everything to get tickets.
I can not see what the moaning is about. The club have done this the best and fairest way they could.
You come to the valley and queue up, then you'll really know who wants to go![/quote]
Becuase not everyone is near to the Valley or can just drop everything to get tickets.
I can not see what the moaning is about. The club have done this the best and fairest way they could.[/quote]
You cant see what the moaning is about come on get a grip its Charlton fans it comes natural bunch of whinning fannys
Didn't know Jim Naughtie was a Charlton fan...
Whoops Sorry ;-)
Or do I mean "position"? Always getting them two mixed up.
Or do I mean "position"? Always getting them two mixed up.[/quote]
;-)
When you get to my age , you don't know your leftbehind from your rightbehind.
It is all to do with perfromance on the pitch...
That is entirely inaccurate. Our away following in the premier league years was, on the whole, very poor. We took something like 400 or 500 to Villa Park in our final season, and around 1000 to spurs, for example. Regardless of our 'performance on the pitch', apart from special occasions such as new grounds or absolutely vital, make or break games (or when the club take our supporters for free), our away support is poor.
we had the worse away following in the championship the year we got relegated and for a club with the home support we had that season and with clubs like plymouth,barnsley, blackpool and doncaster in the same league we should never have finished bottom of the away fans table!
Totally agree offit as i say your not proper Charlton unless you moan and to add more unless you whing and just go on and on and on
But surely you get fed up saying the same stuff all the time? I'm not saying you're right or wrong, that's not the point, I just don't understand why we KEEP having this discussion over and over again. What does it achieve? It is what it is, so we just have to get on with it.