Can someone help please, in the valley pub there was a huge picture taken at the villa cup tie (1938) record crowd, but I've been searching for the picture and I can only find a couple of that game and neither showed a close up of the crowd like I remembered from the pub.
Was I imagining it or is there a close up of the crowd at that cup game?
I searched Getty images and googled it too, any other ideas?
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Thanks CS, now I know what I'm looking for!
We later moved to Springfields,( back of the pub) until I left home.
As a little kid we used to play endless games of football on the little green outside Elliscombe Mount.
Used to drink in the Valley regularly, obviously being a local pub.
Really cannot remember too many Charlton fans though during the week, at least when I was there during the 60s /70s.
Harold Hobbis was the original landlord, who always seemed in a bad mood, so for a pub landlord perhaps not the best attitude, but I was a 'long haired art student type' so he probably
disliked me, being a short back and sides guy. Now I do not even qualify for the short back and sides re haircutting.
I understand he was a winger, was one myself, so we had something in common!
So sad to see the pub, I walked past it two weeks ago..... I wonder if there any photos of the pub.
By the way, I was looking on Pathe news last night quite a few Charlton films, including the cup final..........
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=38570
So more than often ended up in there, didn't realise there was too much history regarding the Valley pub and CAFC but perhaps there's more to it!
bit about the valley
Where is the Glade in Plumstead?
The bloke in the check shirt looks like Henry, smoking a pipe, took his cardy off as it was too hot, however he kept his slippers on.
Camdale Road, between the 2 cemetaries and slightly behind.
I lived in victoria way until I was 10, then moved to Cherry Orchard, first Blaker Court then Fairlawn Court ... the Valley was our regular for a number of years once I reached my mid/late teens.
Is that not called Rockmount Gardens?
I think your talking about Rockcliffe Gardens. Many an hour as a kid I wasted there. The Glade is the playground near the Who'd A Thought It pub.
Presumed it was part of The Slade across the road?
Falconwood, in my confused middle aged mind I think your right it is The Slade swing park. The Glade is in Sidcup where I used to go fishing. Definately called Rockcliffe Gardens though.
Rockmount is what I was referring to anyway.....but for some reason, in the late 60's we called it the Glade.....but for everyones sanity, lets use its proper name, Rockmount.....if you remember it from years ago, it was a very well kept and pretty ornamental gardens with ponds and little waterfalls.....you werent allowed to walk on the grass in places, it was that pristine....if you are in the area, go and have a look at what became of it.....I was shocked.
The Slade is if I recall it correctly, at Plumstead Common.
I grew up around all those places Tel, just 30 years later. We used to live opposite the park at the backend of the graveyard in Alliance Road. My mum still lives 5 minutes from The Slade, your right it is by Plumstead Common in the little dip.
Top notch chips in Kirkham Street chippy by the way, also across the road from the chippy is the CIU where I remember seeing Steve Davis play Snooker just before he was on Pot Black.
They probably gave a lot of cheek and were pissed, but were really done over!
The lads father, a man not to be taken lightly went down with his brothers, some work mates from the building site, and half of Springfields the following week, and got his revenge.
The issue was that 6 men in there 30-40s essentially beat up two young lads!.
Being the brave sort I did not go in there for a few weeks afterwards! I think the pub had to lock the gates to the estate after that, as well as other conditions.
Of course no one witnessed anything! at least when the police eventually turned up!.
Memory of the valley is Alan Devonshire having a goal disallowed for the Hammers who i supported cos the guy who owned the pub used to give me a choclate bar and a coke if i said i supported the hammers.