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Tracy Emin

windscreenwindscreen
edited November 2010 in Not Sports Related
Although its said that anything that pleases can be art, its worth must sometimes be questioned. When a non artist is able to con experts with artwork of a similar appearence and originality, either the bogus work has the same merit and should be afforded the same reverence, or along with the original artists works should be thought of as self indulgent nonsense that obviously anyone can produce.
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    ChizzChizz
    NO!

    Oh sorry, I thought this was a Would Ya?
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    windscreenwindscreen
    Never a would ya if youve read her tent history!
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    Leroy AmbroseLeroy Ambrose
    [cite]Posted By: windscreen[/cite]Although its said that anything that pleases can be art, its worth must sometimes be questioned. When a non artist is able to con experts with artwork of a similar appearence and originality, either the bogus work has the same merit and should be afforded the same reverence, or along with the original artists works should be thought of as self indulgent nonsense that obviously anyone can produce.
    ...?

    Erm... thanks for that...

    You just increased my overall 'WhatTheF**kedness' by about 8%
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    Off_itOff_it
    up to 98% now then, eh Leroy?
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    ValleyGaryValleyGary
    do you own lots of cats windscreen?
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    gilbertfilbertgilbertfilbert
    Well, I think you're right Windscreen. ( I feel a bit like that character in the fishing sketch on "Harry and Paul"!)
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    pilchardpilchard
    With Leroy on this.
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    Leroy AmbroseLeroy Ambrose
    [cite]Posted By: Off_it[/cite]up to 98% now then, eh Leroy?
    Getting there. Especially after I overheard some dopey bint on the train today say she 'always thought Brighton was in London'
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    windscreenwindscreen
    Brighton were in London 2 weeks ago...didnt you watch the match?
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    IAIA
    A few years ago on the bus I overheard some woman saying 'Where is Southampton? Is it in South London somewhere?'

    Dopier man talking to her tried to explain where it was by talking about the football club...
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    Off_itOff_it
    [cite]Posted By: windscreen[/cite]Brighton were in London 2 weeks ago...didnt you watch the match?

    That's actually quite good.

    Well, relatively speaking anyway.
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    IAIA
    They were in London Road on Saturday
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    pilchardpilchard
    erm.....
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    chablis addickchablis addick
    [cite]Posted By: windscreen[/cite]Although its said that anything that pleases can be art, its worth must sometimes be questioned. When a non artist is able to con experts with artwork of a similar appearence and originality, either the bogus work has the same merit and should be afforded the same reverence, or along with the original artists works should be thought of as self indulgent nonsense that obviously anyone can produce.

    Not really, because it becomes derivative and is therefore not considered original. Throughout history there have been examples of people flogging off paintings supposedly produced by esteemed artists. They are seen as fake because the art world likes to attribute a signature or a style specific to each artist - that is their brand. By copying, the 'artist' is seen as a fraud because the ideas are derived and mimicked.
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    pilchardpilchard
    Jackson Pollock, genius or guy who splattered paint like Tony Hancock in the Rebel discuss.
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    chablis addickchablis addick
    [cite]Posted By: pilchard[/cite]Jackson Pollock, genius or guy who splattered paint like Tony Hancock in the Rebel discuss.

    Well, Pollock was dead before Hancok made the film. Pollock developed an idea - is that 'genius'?

    On a similar theme to Hancock, this is quite funny

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozubKHdprMI
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    windscreenwindscreen
    I thought The Rebel was a wonderfully acidic dig at the art world.
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    AddicktedAddickted
    I met that Picasso once.

    Crazy guy.
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    ValleyGaryValleyGary
    they are all crazy.

    i mean look at that presenter from SMART
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    Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    laughable coming from a woman who likened Van Gogh's Starry Night to cat's vomit.
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    nollynolly
    endless journey i guess
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    DaveMehmetDaveMehmet
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]laughable coming from a woman who likened Van Gogh's Starry Night to cat's vomit.

    Exactly, I thought starry night was a great song
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    Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    [cite]Posted By: DaveMehmet[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]laughable coming from a woman who likened Van Gogh's Starry Night to cat's vomit.

    Exactly, I thought starry night was a great song

    It is. That Van Gogh had a real ear for a tune.
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    ColinTatColinTat
    Man if you like that you must be earless.
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    DRFDRF
    I can't stand Tracy Emin more than any other figure in the public eye (and that's pretty stiff competition) and wish she could be robbed of al her possessions, beaten to a pulp and left in a ditch to die slowly.
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    RalphMilnesgutRalphMilnesgut
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]
    [cite aria-level=0 aria-posinset=0 aria-setsize=0]Posted By: DaveMehmet[/cite]
    [cite aria-level=0 aria-posinset=0 aria-setsize=0]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]laughable coming from a woman who likened Van Gogh's Starry Night to cat's vomit.

    Exactly, I thought starry night was a great song

    It is. That Van Gogh had a real ear for a tune.

    His stuff always sounds double Dutch to me
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    ValleyGaryValleyGary
    DRF, tracy says hi
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    stonemusestonemuse
    [cite]Posted By: windscreen[/cite]Although its said that anything that pleases can be art, its worth must sometimes be questioned. When a non artist is able to con experts with artwork of a similar appearence and originality, either the bogus work has the same merit and should be afforded the same reverence, or along with the original artists works should be thought of as self indulgent nonsense that obviously anyone can produce.

    Have another look ... I don't think you have got it at all ... must be viewed in the spirit of the times and the social milieu.
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    windscreenwindscreen
    Sorry that I belittled cat vomit Henry...
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    ColinTatColinTat
    As an aside the Chapman brothers have just remade the Rebel. My mate worked on it and got quite friendly with Jake, and said it seemed pretty cool in the rushes. I look forward to it as the Chapman's work I don't always agree with but emotionally they're the most interesting and stimulating out of all the YBA's; can't always say I like the emotional reaction though.

    For Pollock like his work, but no more than that. The beat generation and associated art of America post WWII, is even less to my liking than the previous Lost Generation. Just don't think it holds a candle to say the Dadaists of a previous generation. What you see is what you get, and your own interpretation is absolutely more important than the artists. It ain't balanced ebtween your interpretation and the artists message.
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