Great to hear him finally getting some good reviews from the majority of fans at a game. I've always been a fan and feel he gets a rough ride sometimes, but I accept he should deliver to his full potential more often.
I wasn't at the game yesterday so I have a couple of questions for those who were. Firstly, what did Therry do yesterday to earn your praise that you don't feel he's done previously? Secondly, do you feel that was Therry at his best and if it was, are the numerous comments on the player ratings thread like "needs to do this every week" reasonable - is it fair to expect him to be the star man every week?
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If he did that every week he'd be awesome
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Racon undoubtedly has talent and it is that fact that makes him so frustrating as a player as his application normally does not match that talent. He does one or two decent things and then disappears from the game in Ambrosian fashion which puts pressure on the others.
Yesterday though he gave us eighty whatever it was minutes until his substitution so to answer your question directly that is what made the difference for me.
As to whether it is fair to expect him to be the star player every week the answer is probably no but I would turn it round and say a player of his talent should have been the star man far more often than he has been since he joined us.
need another defence minded/attack player like Jackson. Racon would then be very good but it's where to fit
Reid into the team
Before this I have always regarded him as a talented but lazy player.
I think this is fair comment Len and I agree to a large extent, Racs does need to show his talent more, however it's comments like these:
where I think he gets a rough ride. I don't feel he's always 100% committed - I was quite angry with him after the Brighton game as there was more than one occassion I saw him let people just run past him. However, I think those games are fairly isolated incidents and there are at least as many games, such as Orient away this season, where he's put in genuinely hard working defensive shifts, he even made a couple of pretty good tackles vs Brighton and there are lots of solid displays in between. That in itself doesn't excuse the occassional cruising match he has - there's never really much of an excuse for those, but that doesn't necessarilly make him lazy player per-say - plenty of crowd favourites over the years have games where they seem a bit disinterested. Ambrose was a different story, he was an absolute train wreck when it came to defending and it wasn't so much spells of matches that Darren went missing for as spells of seasons, although I accept the comparisons on a frustrating under use of talent.
I think people are very quick to criticise Racs when he has a game like Brighton, but a bit slower to give him credit when he has a good game. He seems to have fallen into the category that Sam did last season in that he has to have a truly outstanding match before people are willing to credit him with much. I just hope he can string a few good performances together and start winning a few people round again because I still feel he can be key man for us if we can get the best out of him.
He's not lazy but some way from being the first player I'd think of if asked who the most committed and hard working players were.
He had 100% effort, skill, tackling ,passing ,guile, heading. It was all there.
The question is why ?
I believe that it's what I've said for more than a year. You can't get promoted playing 2 wingers and getting outnumbered in the centre. Racon & Semedo are often overrun, because they are outnumbered. Brighton 2 weeks ago being an excellent example.
If you have an achieveable target you strive to meet it. If it's not achieveable you may not bother or you give up.
Perhaps, our middle 2 sometimes (understandably) give up a bit when they know they can't win & perhaps yesterday knowing they had an even battle with Jackson tucked in supporting them, & Waggy doing well supporting, they excelled as for once they felt in control instead of trying to hold back the tide.
You may have a point here Covered except that Bailey played wide left most of last season and he was hardly an authodox winger, although he perhaps wasn't as good a player as some would have you believe.
Could it be that Ally Macks return to fitness and his and Parky's comments about his determination to get back into the side, that were reported this week, have concentrated Therry's mind?
Actually think he's been one of our better players so far, a few performances against Dagenham he's done well. Also with Mccormack now fit again it was good to see him put in a motm performance to keep his place.
Him and Semedo both need to have more games like yesterday and if they do we'll win alot more.
So if he has just an average performance in the next game, as I'm sure will others, he gets slated.
Yes, he could be more consistent but that could apply to a lot of the team.
He is, and always will be, a whipping boy.
Semedo was a Pardew signing and he's a crowd favourite. It's more to do with him being inconsistent. I thought he was superb on Saturday, I just wish he could play like it more often.
Don't forget though that he is still a player murray has targetted to off load due to high wages.
Thats right god forbid we ever get anyone playing really well week in week out because they'll be off in summer.
Lets just watch em trot about playing avergae but at least we'll still have em next season!!
Racon played at a standard which was above recent performances. Central midfield is a key area of the pitch where games are often won and lost, and his performance went a long way to assist in winning the match....now do it week in and week out, home & away. I hope he plays as well at Swindon.
I'm sure Parky is drumming it in to all of the team. A similar level of performance at Swindon should get us 3 more points.