Yep cos every large IT project they always make a stonking success of. VB for a mission critical Ambulance delivery service??????
However they do it they'll make an absolute ass of collecting the info, storing it and analysing it. Some poor bugger'll no doubt have a murder case made up on him because of some anal comment on Facebook.
They are talking about it on LBC now and quite interesting. Usual line in defence of it is "Nothing to fear if nothing to hide" but as lots of people have pointed out they have lots to hide despite it not being illegal.
Exactly saga. They had securty experts on saying it futile as terrorism isnt always arranged online or with technology. Particularly when they know they are being watched.
They've been doing it for donkeys years already. We've become so complacent about it all that they now don't even bother hiding it. Anyone who thinks records of their email and internet activity isn't all sat in a san somewhere in gchq has obviously never been in a tier 1 datacentre and seen the taps inserted at peering points.
Remember - just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you...
Been doing it here in Portugal for a year or so, it was supposed to be for just one year though, to see if it "worked", not heard of it changing - quelle suprise...
Latest is all cars to be chipped so they "can charge tolls on motorways without setting up expensive toll booths" - yes of course it is.
Said motorways were built with vast amounts of EU cash, and were always to be kept toll free, by law... except they just changed the law...
There's a rumour that they intercepted a suspiciously coded text last night from someone in southern Italy, sent to a mobile registered to a P. Parkinson in SE7, which read :
''DID U C ME ON TV ? 90M IN RED SHRT v NAP. ENJY CARLSLE SAT. SORRY CANT B THERE . JJ. ''
Been kicked about 4 years and rejected as a non starter re email archive. As for your mobiles they have been doing it for years and as for landlines they have been scanned by key words since the IRA etcetc 20 years +
All cars at airports /Bluewater etc + cars entering the City of London are recorded
[cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]I have nothing to hide so won't try to. Not sure why people care if they're not doing anything wrong?
You don't _think_ you have anything to hide. Can you be sure your activities on the web haven't made you a known associate of someone the police / security services might be interested in? You've never made an exaggerated "threat" of violence as a joke, never had a photo taken of you at a party that your employers wouldn't like, belonged to a mailing list for a political party / union / religious group / non mainstream interest group? Just because it's not an issue now, doesn't mean it won't be in the future.
[cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]I have nothing to hide so won't try to. Not sure why people care if they're not doing anything wrong?
Because they are not doing anything wrong, that's why they/we care Dazzler. Why shouldn't you send a saucy text to the wife on the way home without some "spy" having a laugh at your expense? As Ali says, laws are altered to suit the powers that be, that's what has happened in extremist dictatorships throughout history. If this is to be a law why were we not given an opportunity to vote on it just a few months ago? Democracy.... pah.
I got a surprise 'home visit' from the security services, who chatted to me whilst perusing my bookshelves. I had lots of books on politics, including a slim volume on Conservative party thought, linked to my studies. 'Ah', he said as he selected one book from about 60, 'I see you have an interest in Marx.' I'd done nothing wrong apart from being a very visibly active member of a protest movement. That was in the 60's. Nothing's changed, only the methods used.
[cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]I got a surprise 'home visit' from the security services, who chatted to me whilst perusing my bookshelves. I had lots of books on politics, including a slim volume on Conservative party thought, linked to my studies. 'Ah', he said as he selected one book from about 60, 'I see you have an interest in Marx.' I'd done nothing wrong apart from being a very visibly active member of a protest movement. That was in the 60's. Nothing's changed, only the methods used.
I am genuinely astonished by this post. Exactly how much worse can it get ?
[cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]I have nothing to hide so won't try to. Not sure why people care if they're not doing anything wrong?
Because they are not doing anything wrong, that's why they/we care Dazzler. Why shouldn't you send a saucy text to the wife on the way home without some "spy" having a laugh at your expense? As Ali says, laws are altered to suit the powers that be, that's what has happened in extremist dictatorships throughout history. If this is to be a law why were we not given an opportunity to vote on it just a few months ago? Democracy.... pah.
[cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]I have nothing to hide so won't try to. Not sure why people care if they're not doing anything wrong?
I dont have anything to hide either but doesnt mean I want some civil servant mong know what conversations I have, every private email I send or receive or what porn i look at and Im sure most wouldnt.
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Whatever else I may have said or texted about the government I now admit I was wrong
Thank you
However they do it they'll make an absolute ass of collecting the info, storing it and analysing it. Some poor bugger'll no doubt have a murder case made up on him because of some anal comment on Facebook.
When they say "We're all in this together" I wish TV reporters would respond with "Crackerjack"! I believe 8 of the cabinet are millionaires?
Remember - just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you...
That's the sort of place you would probably know if you had visited, I take it?
Can't for the life of me remember going to one so I reckon I fall into this category!
Latest is all cars to be chipped so they "can charge tolls on motorways without setting up expensive toll booths" - yes of course it is.
Said motorways were built with vast amounts of EU cash, and were always to be kept toll free, by law... except they just changed the law...
''DID U C ME ON TV ? 90M IN RED SHRT v NAP. ENJY CARLSLE SAT. SORRY CANT B THERE . JJ. ''
No idea if it's true or not...
All cars at airports /Bluewater etc + cars entering the City of London are recorded
some article about wikileaks and u.s. trying to shut them down
Because they are not doing anything wrong, that's why they/we care Dazzler. Why shouldn't you send a saucy text to the wife on the way home without some "spy" having a laugh at your expense? As Ali says, laws are altered to suit the powers that be, that's what has happened in extremist dictatorships throughout history. If this is to be a law why were we not given an opportunity to vote on it just a few months ago? Democracy.... pah.
I am genuinely astonished by this post. Exactly how much worse can it get ?
I dont have anything to hide either but doesnt mean I want some civil servant mong know what conversations I have, every private email I send or receive or what porn i look at and Im sure most wouldnt.
Yeah because we all spend our weekends wandering around data centres!
Not that anyone would be granted access anyway into a data hall.