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Michael Jackson , this is it
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I've never had any doubt Michael Jackson was a wrong un, but some people will always refuse to believe it cause he was a megastar who did some alright songs.
Watch the whole documentary again, but imagine it's about some random plumber and not 1 person would have any doubt he was a predatory paedophile.
Sad really
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I remember Latoya accusing their father of abuse, from memory just for being overly pushy and violent if they didn't do as he said, but the rest of the children denied it and closed ranks. She was always a loan voice.0
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cfgs said:I remember Latoya accusing their father of abuse, from memory just for being overly pushy and violent if they didn't do as he said, but the rest of the children denied it and closed ranks. She was always a loan voice.0
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oohaahmortimer said:
Dirty nonce, the ground is the best place for him. Good riddance.1 -
LaToya has since denied Michaels guilt but who knows why. She seemed pretty adamant in that interview. Perhaps even she has her price to toe the family line. There is still a very big MJ gravy train even after his death. I doubt many people want to derail that.0
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Apparently his record sales have gone up.0
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Best case scenario, he abused young innocent boys.
Worst case scenario, he molested young innocent boys.
How anyone can defend even the best case scenario here is quite frankly, beyond me.8 -
I don’t think the whole ‘if he was a builder/Carpenter/postman then nobody would be defending him’ argument is entirely compatible.
The truth is - he was none of those things. And the reason he was as strange as he was, is because he didn’t have a ‘normal’ job or relationship with the world. We’re talking about possibly the most famous pop star of all time.
If if he didn’t have the job/fame that he had, then he probably would still be alive, he would never have ended up looking the way he did etc.
The fact that he openly spoke about what he was doing in that Martin Bashir documentary is what makes me stop short of suggesting that this is a ‘regular’ case of someone who could be a paedophile, the way it might be in other situations.0 -
No matter what, I doubt we'll ever know. I don't believe he did it.
In the end, you'll still be singing or enjoying his songs when they come on over any set of speakers whilst you're out. That's the only FACT.0 - Sponsored links:
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Never have and never will. So not a FACT at all.5
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cafc-4-life said:No matter what, I doubt we'll ever know. I don't believe he did it.
In the end, you'll still be singing or enjoying his songs when they come on over any set of speakers whilst you're out. That's the only FACT.11 -
Algarveaddick said:Never have and never will. So not a FACT at all.2
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I think he probably did it, just don't know for sure. People can and do lie.0
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cafc-4-life said:No matter what, I doubt we'll ever know. I don't believe he did it.
In the end, you'll still be singing or enjoying his songs when they come on over any set of speakers whilst you're out. That's the only FACT.
Can't say I've ever enjoyed his music at all.0 -
cafc-4-life said:Algarveaddick said:Never have and never will. So not a FACT at all.
He did but just blamed it on the boogie1 -
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9yTTEwBLfUQ
If anyone has a spare half hour here is a fairly compelling rebuttal. (Part one is worth watching too) be warned it has a fair smattering of swearing in it.0 -
MuttleyCAFC said:I think he probably did it, just don't know for sure. People can and do lie.2
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cafctom said:I don’t think the whole ‘if he was a builder/Carpenter/postman then nobody would be defending him’ argument is entirely compatible.
The truth is - he was none of those things. And the reason he was as strange as he was, is because he didn’t have a ‘normal’ job or relationship with the world. We’re talking about possibly the most famous pop star of all time.
If if he didn’t have the job/fame that he had, then he probably would still be alive, he would never have ended up looking the way he did etc.
The fact that he openly spoke about what he was doing in that Martin Bashir documentary is what makes me stop short of suggesting that this is a ‘regular’ case of someone who could be a paedophile, the way it might be in other situations.
He had wrongen porn in his room, he had cameras to see if people were coming, he’d spend up to 30 days in the company of children, sometimes 5 whole days in the same room and his own sister openly spoke about what he was up too.
He used his position of wealth and trust to basically groom these kids. He knew exactly what he was doing.7 -
Must have been staff members and hangers on who knew and presumably because the pay and perks decided to keep Schtum. Says a lot about people when they can turn a blind eye to child sex abuse. I hope they rot.0
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I wonder why his doctor killed him?0
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Stu_of_Kunming said:cafc-4-life said:No matter what, I doubt we'll ever know. I don't believe he did it.
In the end, you'll still be singing or enjoying his songs when they come on over any set of speakers whilst you're out. That's the only FACT.
Can't say I've ever enjoyed his music at all.1 -
MuttleyCAFC said:Stu_of_Kunming said:cafc-4-life said:No matter what, I doubt we'll ever know. I don't believe he did it.
In the end, you'll still be singing or enjoying his songs when they come on over any set of speakers whilst you're out. That's the only FACT.
Can't say I've ever enjoyed his music at all.2 -
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cafc-4-life said:Algarveaddick said:Never have and never will. So not a FACT at all.8
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Stu_of_Kunming said:MuttleyCAFC said:Stu_of_Kunming said:cafc-4-life said:No matter what, I doubt we'll ever know. I don't believe he did it.
In the end, you'll still be singing or enjoying his songs when they come on over any set of speakers whilst you're out. That's the only FACT.
Can't say I've ever enjoyed his music at all.0 -
MuttleyCAFC said:Stu_of_Kunming said:MuttleyCAFC said:Stu_of_Kunming said:cafc-4-life said:No matter what, I doubt we'll ever know. I don't believe he did it.
In the end, you'll still be singing or enjoying his songs when they come on over any set of speakers whilst you're out. That's the only FACT.
Can't say I've ever enjoyed his music at all.1 -
MuttleyCAFC said:Stu_of_Kunming said:MuttleyCAFC said:Stu_of_Kunming said:cafc-4-life said:No matter what, I doubt we'll ever know. I don't believe he did it.
In the end, you'll still be singing or enjoying his songs when they come on over any set of speakers whilst you're out. That's the only FACT.
Can't say I've ever enjoyed his music at all.3 -
It is not behaviour I would be happy with, but there is a big difference, even though I agree it is wrong, from doing that and what he is being accused of. You can't just lump it all in together.1
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MuttleyCAFC said:It is not behaviour I would be happy with, but there is a big difference, even though I agree it is wrong, from doing that and what he is being accused of. You can't just lump it all in together.2