John Robinson - not a conventional hardman but he let players know he was there. Remember him coming on (against Crewe0 I think and being lucky to get a yellow card after about 2 mins. Also our Xmas match against Ipswich where we went 2- 0 down after about 3 mins - Robbo was lucky to stay on - if I remember he scored one of the goals.
I have never heard that story before about Killer squaring up to the entire Sunderland support. But I believe it.
For me it has to be The Tank, because he was a top class footballer too. Curbs made a mistake there, not resigning him. Steve Brown a close second. And an honourable mention to Paul Miller for the Battle of the Bridge (Chelsea 89).
I enjoyed some meaty challenges by Sweaty Balmer & I loved Kish's mashing of Ronaldo after he'd been diving all game. You could see the logic- he may as well give a real foul if one was going to be given anyway.
In Hermann's final season he just wanted to fight everyone but Danny Mills was my favourite on balance.
Bowyer was a vicious wee shite when he was 17, not scared of anyone
Hales, Went, Shirtliff, Balmer, Youds, O'Connell.
Parker & the recent lot enjoy tackles but would not make me feel any form of intimidation. McCormack is showing signs of not taking any shite though and could elevate his hardman staus
Remember it well zed, it was easter, early 70,s and early kick off? about the halfway line straight near our seated "grandstand" straight into the top left corner, as viewed by a young addick at the time in the covered end.
Eddie Youlds, Billy Bonds, and Derek Hales. and Steve Brown....... always got the impression that Steve Brown would always get up with 2 broken legs and do his part.......
Remember when Roy Keane was down at the Valley, the first time we went up in the prem..... he had an exclussion zone around him, none of the Charlton players would tackle him!..
Wether he had a reputation was true or false, our players looked as though they were more capable of asking for his autograph than tackling him!........
Peter Reeves was the hardest tackler. When he crunched into a tackle it used to echo around the Valley. Phil Warman was sly and nasty and seemed to have it in for John Chidozie a little winger with Orient. Steve Thompson's thighs were so huge I still wonder how he found shorts big enough. Stevie Brown for sheer bravery and putting his body on the line, very underrated footballer as well. Scariest looking, Killer as per the photo above. Loved em all, plus all the others mentioned.
Paul Miller for me..... used to kick everything and would never let anything go... you would see him take a hit and then 10 miutes latter subtly(yeah right) kick someone in the shins..
Also Shirtliff to a lesser extent, I once say him smash 2 players up in the air winning a challenge, it was like skittles... loved it!
[cite]Posted By: mascot88[/cite]Paul Miller for me..... used to kick everything and would never let anything go... you would see him take a hit and then 10 miutes latter subtly(yeah right) kick someone in the shins..
Also Shirtliff to a lesser extent, I once say him smash 2 players up in the air winning a challenge, it was like skittles... loved it!
Actually, yeah, good one: Shirtliff used to put it about.
Does anyone remember the tackle at Selhurst, it was like a two-footed Kung Fu kick to the opponents chest/stomach area. I don't think he even got booked, I used to have it on an old VHS video?
Hales and Warman were good mates and both no-nonsense off the pitch after the game. The story in the mid-seventies after Hales and West Brom's giant centre-half, Len Cantello met in the Valley Club after the game is a classic. West Brom were going up and Cantello was the blond hair star of the day. He and Hales had been at each other all through the game and the Charlton fans kneew there would be a show-down afterv the match if Cantello came in as was the custom in those days. When the confrontation took place, Hales said "Cantello, outside now." The look of fear on big Len's face told the story but he brazened it out and replied "I would Derek but I'm on £300 a week" implying he would lose a big slice through disciplinary action. Quick as a flash, hales said "I'm on £350, outside now!" Cantello melted.
[cite]Posted By: red_murph[/cite]Red5, I've got that season video of the Kung Fu kick to the chest. How he got away with that I'll never know!
Thanks man, I thought I was starting to imagine it ever happened: no-one I know remembers it. It was a stupendously bad challenge (attacK, I should say) but not as bad as the ref for not even booking him!
You don't know what game it was by any chance? Thanks a lot.
Kneeing a leeds player in the back of the head in the play off final when he was trying to get up. Taking out 2 players with boots at stomach height simultaneously
A couple of people have mentioned Simon Webster, me and my mate played in a Football Aid match at the Valley, Webster was on the other side, really nice bloke, and still has the fire, however my mate who played at a decent standard nuts Webster and went by him, he was none to happy about and told my mate his thoughts in a very spirited way, 'if you do that again' etc etc. Silly boy, my mates a black belt Karate and decent kickboxer as well, oh how we laughed!!!
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Danny Mills - evil but fair.
John Robinson - not a conventional hardman but he let players know he was there. Remember him coming on (against Crewe0 I think and being lucky to get a yellow card after about 2 mins. Also our Xmas match against Ipswich where we went 2- 0 down after about 3 mins - Robbo was lucky to stay on - if I remember he scored one of the goals.
I have never heard that story before about Killer squaring up to the entire Sunderland support. But I believe it.
For me it has to be The Tank, because he was a top class footballer too. Curbs made a mistake there, not resigning him. Steve Brown a close second. And an honourable mention to Paul Miller for the Battle of the Bridge (Chelsea 89).
In Hermann's final season he just wanted to fight everyone but Danny Mills was my favourite on balance.
And every time we play Orient it reminds me of his 45 yard back pass he once lobbed over his own keeper...
Hales, Went, Shirtliff, Balmer, Youds, O'Connell.
Parker & the recent lot enjoy tackles but would not make me feel any form of intimidation. McCormack is showing signs of not taking any shite though and could elevate his hardman staus
A 50/50 with Derek Hales???? No thanks
line straight near our seated "grandstand" straight into the top left corner, as viewed by
a young addick at the time in the covered end.
Remember when Roy Keane was down at the Valley, the first time we went up in the prem..... he had an exclussion zone around him, none of the Charlton players would tackle him!..
Wether he had a reputation was true or false, our players looked as though they were more capable of asking for his autograph than tackling him!........
Not really into this 'hard man stuff' .
Sweaty Balmer
Halesy took no prisoners
Simon Webster
Phil Warman was sly and nasty and seemed to have it in for John Chidozie a little winger with Orient.
Steve Thompson's thighs were so huge I still wonder how he found shorts big enough.
Stevie Brown for sheer bravery and putting his body on the line, very underrated footballer as well.
Scariest looking, Killer as per the photo above.
Loved em all, plus all the others mentioned.
Also Shirtliff to a lesser extent, I once say him smash 2 players up in the air winning a challenge, it was like skittles... loved it!
(that's Steve Thompson for our younger viewers).
Then there's the Octopus too: he was all over em, all arms and legs!
(that's Carl Leaburn for our younger viewers).
Actually, yeah, good one: Shirtliff used to put it about.
Does anyone remember the tackle at Selhurst, it was like a two-footed Kung Fu kick to the opponents chest/stomach area. I don't think he even got booked, I used to have it on an old VHS video?
did you know he plays a nice gentlemans game of Bowls now!
Harry Crips for me...only because my Dad said so!!
Thanks man, I thought I was starting to imagine it ever happened: no-one I know remembers it. It was a stupendously bad challenge (attacK, I should say) but not as bad as the ref for not even booking him!
You don't know what game it was by any chance? Thanks a lot.
Kneeing a leeds player in the back of the head in the play off final when he was trying to get up.
Taking out 2 players with boots at stomach height simultaneously
Phil Warman
Cheers, gonna look into that, got to see that tackle again! Thanks a lot.