when we have discussions about Parky I keep reading that as he did not get us back up last season he has kept us in this 3rd tier longer than any one else and that makes him our worst ever manager . Surely this is wrong. Long ago In my drunken mispent youth I seem to remember us being relegated to Div 3 in 1972 and not going back up until 1975. Can any one confirm this
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73-74 when we finished 14th in div 3.So parky has a little way to go yet,if we finish below 14th this year he will hold this record.Staying that we did bounce back from our all time low the following season when we got promoted in 74-75.
Worst ever position was pre-war, 1925-26, 21st in Division 3 (South)
Did we have to apply for re-election that year ....?
But remember, we were a very young club, with only 4 years League experience back then.
Yes, the only time we've ever had to apply for re-election according to Mr Cameron.
Good you know your history about Charlton and with a name like that you have seen many agame thats for sure.Was at Fulham when dear old Lawrie played his first game for Charlton 1-1 draw.first game of season and he scored.
What made it all the more remarkable was that it was our first season ever in the top flight, having just been promoted twice in consecutive seasons from the Third Division South.
Jimmy Seed was the legend that created those stunningly successful seasons.
Charlton were the very first team to climb from Third Division to the First, in successive seasons - a record in itself that stood for more than 30 years.
Even when QPR emulated that in 1966-67, 67-68, 68-69 they were relegated out of sight in their top flight season, including an 8-0 drubbing by Matt Busby's Man Utd.
So for Charlton to actually finish 2nd in their first top flight season was a magnificent achievement, never bettered.
EDIT: I should add that in 1937-38, Charlton finished 4th;
and in 1938-39, Charlton finished 3rd.
And remember, Jimmy Seed achieved all that with basically the same side he built in the Third Division South!
If it hadn't been stopped by outbreak of World War II, that team may truly have established Charlton amongst the elite.
Strange thing was, they were relegated two years later...
Cheers, Lawrie ....... exactly!
Ipswich were not promoted in consecutive seasons from the Third Division to the top flight,
although not knocking their magnificent achievement of winning the title in their first top flight season.
Incidentally, Sir Alf Ramsay was manager of that Ipswich title winning side, and his skipper was Andy Nelson ......later to become Charlton manager for nearly 6 years in the 70s.
Didn't Brian Clough also win the League title by 7 points clear in Nottingham Forest's first season after promotion, then the very next season won the European Cup? Plus 2 consecutive League Cup victories at the same time.
And won the European Cup the next season also!
Fantastic achievement.
See Bristol City were a top flight club, Millwall finished above Charlton on goal difference, Portsmouth relegated to the 4th Division, and Swansea City having finished in the 4th Division promotion places were en route for the top flight Division 1 in just 4 seasons! Later emulated by Watford, Fulham and Hull, at least.
And for all fellow Anoraks, here's our very first League season!
(1921-22)
League Division 3 (South)
P W D L F A W D L F A Pts
1. SOUTHAMPTON 42 14 7 0 50 8 9 8 4 18 13 61
2. Plymouth Argyle 42 17 4 0 43 4 8 7 6 20 20 61
3. Portsmouth 42 13 5 3 38 18 5 12 4 24 21 53
4. Luton Town 42 16 2 3 47 9 6 6 9 17 26 52
5. Queen's Park Rangers 42 13 7 1 36 12 5 6 10 17 32 49
6. Swindon Town 42 10 7 4 40 21 6 6 9 32 39 45
7. Watford 42 9 9 3 34 21 4 9 8 20 27 44
8. Aberdare Athletic 42 11 6 4 38 18 6 4 11 19 33 44
9. Brentford 42 15 2 4 41 17 1 9 11 11 26 43
10. Swansea City 42 11 8 2 40 19 2 7 12 10 28 41
11. Merthyr Town 42 14 2 5 33 15 3 4 14 12 41 40
12. Millwall 42 6 13 2 22 10 4 5 12 16 32 38
13. Reading 42 10 5 6 28 15 4 5 12 12 32 38
14. Bristol Rovers 42 8 8 5 32 24 6 2 13 20 43 38
15. Norwich City 42 8 10 3 29 17 4 3 14 21 45 37
16. Charlton Athletic 42 10 6 5 28 19 3 5 13 15 37 37
17. Northampton 42 13 3 5 30 17 0 8 13 17 54 37
18. Gillingham 42 11 4 6 36 20 3 4 14 11 40 36
19. Brighton & Hove Albion 42 9 6 6 33 19 4 3 14 12 32 35
20. Newport County 42 8 7 6 22 18 3 5 13 22 43 34
21. Exeter City 42 7 5 9 22 29 4 7 10 16 30 34
22. Southend United 42 7 5 9 23 23 1 6 14 11 51 27
at least we lasted longer !
The difference is that back then we knew no better and had not had the fortune of Premiership football.
in the two worse seasons 72-3 and 73-4 palace got relegated from top tier to the third tier while millwall were mid table second tier ... unlike last season
The difference is that back then we knew no better and had not had the fortune of Premiership football.[/quote]
You are spot on, Len. Maybe, we need to go down one more division, so that we can appreciate "the high life" when we get back to League 1.
Even in 1925/26 Millwall and Palace finished above CAFC 😤