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What ultimatley cost us this season

BigRedEvilBigRedEvil
edited May 2010 in General Charlton
Is a lack of a natural goalscorer.

Millwall have Morrison
Swindon have Austin/Paynter
Norwich have Holt
Leeds have Beckford

All apart from Paynter all have been signed from non league.

So whoever is scouting in the summer can we try and find a decent non league striker please? Preferably not Dickson or Fleetwood ;-)
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  • JorgeCostaJorgeCosta
    [cite]Posted By: BigRedEvil[/cite]Is a lack of a natural goalscorer.

    Millwall have Morrison
    Swindon have Austin/Paynter
    Norwich have Holt
    Leeds have Beckford

    All apart from Paynter all have been signed from non league.

    So whoever is scouting in the summer can we try and find a decent non league striker please? Preferably not Dickson or Fleetwood ;-)

    Totally agree. We've generally been fine everywhere else on the pitch but the final third has let us down. It's stopped us finishing teams off.
  • The Red RobinThe Red Robin
    [cite]Posted By: BigRedEvil[/cite]
    So whoever is scouting in the summer can we try and find a decent non league striker please? Preferably not Dickson or Fleetwood ;-)

    Sounds like a job for Jonathan Acworth....
  • carly burncarly burn
    A game of this magnitude and Lloyd Sam is still ducking out of challenges.Says it all really.
  • The Red RobinThe Red Robin
    [cite]Posted By: carly burn[/cite]A game of this magnitude and Lloyd Sam is still ducking out of challenges.Says it all really.

    Four red shirts one blue one...Guess where Nicky Bailey puts it! If one player cost us tonight it's him.
  • joeaddickjoeaddick
    [cite]Posted By: BigRedEvil[/cite]Is a lack of a natural goalscorer.
    ;-)

    Hole in one!
    Some of them all too many drawn games would have turned into wins, had we a natural goalscorer...
  • Athletico CharltonAthletico Charlton
    edited May 2010
    Thought Sam did well tonight, plenty of balls into the box, he ducked one tackle that I remember but made several excellent runs back to help in defence. Ultimately what cost us was a striker who could get 25+ goals but as I just said in another post if we had played with the passion and heart during the middle of the season that we played with tonight we would have won the league. Who do you blame...the manager for not motivating, the players for not doing it themselves, the board for selling Jonjo at a terrible time or the fans for not putting on an atmosphere like tonights every game...ultimately it is a bit of all of these.
  • The Red RobinThe Red Robin
    [cite]Posted By: joeaddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: BigRedEvil[/cite]Is a lack of a natural goalscorer.
    ;-)

    Hole in one!
    Some of them all too many drawn games would have turned into wins, had we a natural goalscorer...

    Obika on loan for the season may have been that man...
  • FatterThanAndyReidFatterThanAndyReid
    true, though i don't it's relevant to say Holt came from non-league as he's been in football league. but yes, non-league is the only place we're gonna be getting anyone from anytime soon.

    Burton showed today he's very good at this level, with a natural goal-scorer alongside him we'd have been a much more balanced team. Shame he'll be a year odler next yr too
  • boggzyboggzy
    I think personally if we'd played with the amount of passion we did tonight most games, we'd have won the league easily - even with the players we have.
  • northstandstevenorthstandsteve
    WHATS COST US IS TWICE PLAYING AGAINST 10 MEN AND NOT SEEING THE RESULT THROUGH
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  • queensland_addickqueensland_addick
    What cost us has been Parky's negative tactics. We showed in the first half that we can be a very good team when we attack. All those 1 1 draws which could have been converted into wins with a little more positivity in terms of team selection.
    Mooney showed tonight that he could be a decent striker, but throughout the season we have not created enough chances and too often the strikers are feeding off scraps. Burton for me has been poor since his early season form and his headers again tonight were weak and casual and didn't trouble the keeper.
  • DRAddickDRAddick
    Not having a goalscorer cost us dear but so did conceeding silly goals to often as in tonight. People also seem to forget we were very lucky many times this year when we won games so maybe the results masked overall weaknesses in what was/is a poor league.
  • chablis addickchablis addick
    For sure, not having a 20+ goalscorer cost us (but we've got no money). Also, a lot of other things have made the points difference (I was most angered by the Orient and Brighton games, but especially Orient)

    It's all if's and but's though - we're League 1 next season.
  • SwisdomSwisdom
    What cost us begins with N


    And ends in icky Bailey
  • Sussex_AddickSussex_Addick
    edited May 2010
    [cite]Posted By: Swisdom[/cite]What cost us begins with N


    And ends in icky Bailey

    The same Nicky Bailey that scored 12 goals cost us this season?

    People always bang on about us not having a 20 goal a season striker, but which of the teams that do had a goalscoring midfielder as good as Bailey? It evens out. Goals are goals are goals.

    It isn't as simple as the difference being a 20 goal a season striker, Swindon have 2! But they finished below us in the league and were battered tonight. We won the game tonight, but lost in the penalty shoot-out lottery, it happens. I don't think the 'difference' between the sides was a 20 goal a season striker, i think it was a penalty shootout.

    Millwall and Leeds meanwhile finished within 1 and 2 points of us respectively and I personally wouldn't attribute such a minuscule difference in points to just having one player on a trophy figure of goals.

    There's plenty of reasons why we didn't go up (just one win in the games we lost to pants side at home would have done it) but it's nowhere near as simple as a 20 goal player being the difference. As we can see by the table, the difference was so small it could be almost anything
  • Stuart_the_RedStuart_the_Red
    What cost us the season were those appalling loses against weak teams in the second half of the season. If the players had put in a decent performance on any one of those days we would have been in the second automatic place.
  • charltonkestoncharltonkeston
    Amazing how they could all raise their game for a Wembly match but for large parts of the season put in less than average shifts.
    You dont need a 20+ striker when your teams chips in few all round. Also our defending this term has been quite dire at times.
  • SantaClausSantaClaus
    Having to fit Nicky Bailey into the side was a disaster this season and we ended up paying for it. He's been awful in a middle two, especially when given the playmaking role next to Semedo and only played well on the left when he had an overlapping full back to give him space. Unfit puffed up little cry baby good riddance.
  • johnny73johnny73
    I think we did miss a natural goal scorer to turn those draws into wins. But overall we had a blinding season in comparison to the last 5 or 6 years. It just wasn't meant to be our season. If we had a chance to build on this - sign some of the loanees. Then I really think next year we would be looking at going straight up. Unfortunately the money is unlikely to be available and we will be looking at losing most of the quality players. A real shame for everyone.
  • SteboStebo
    Richard Brodie - 22 years old - 35 goals for york this season - england c international.

    James Constable - 25 years old - 22 goals this season for oxford, 23 goals last season - england c international

    go get them.

    there's been a few non-league, England C internationals to make the step up in recent times:

    D.J. Campbell
    Michael Kightly
    Craig Mackail-Smith
    Aaron McLean
    Steve Morison

    so it's a good place to look.


    also there are 3 decent strikers out of contract at the moment - Leon Clarke, Will Hoskins and Chris Iwelumo. long shots maybe but if i was parky i would be on the phone begging them to come to us.
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  • nickaspannernickaspanner
    Just a shame Parky didnt have the bottle to drop Racon 15 games ago and play Bailey in the middle and Reid on the left. I'm sure we would have been sitting pretty in 2nd place.
  • Sparrows Lane LionSparrows Lane Lion
    You missed out on automatic by 2 points.

    You missed out by drawing one game rather than winning it.

    As did we.

    Swindon were just one victory and draw away from automatic too.

    We are talking differences of one more goal scored in one game or one less goal conceded.

    It's not because you didn't have 20+ goal scorer. Every team could say "oh if we had this we would've gone up". Sometimes it just comes down to luck. We both missed out by a whisker. Hey ho, it happens. It all still sounds like you believe you should've walked this league and I think that's your main problem. Someone on another thread repeated what Lambert said to his team, that they have to respect every opponent, there are no easy games, for one season you deserve to be in this league etc. It's taken Leeds a few years to see that viewpoint too. There are no easy games, there is no inch given, you have to battle & scrap for every point and respect who you're playing.
  • razilrazil
    The lack of goals meant we couldn't cover for the fact that we rarely kept clean sheets, this to me sums it up.
  • JTJT
    A lack of a 20+ striker. Definitely, no doubt whatsoever.
  • SteboStebo
    We need strikers that are ours; not loanees who are short on fitness, short on form and short on confidence.
  • shine166shine166
    and short on youth !! Burton did a job last night, but he was finished b4 the 90 mins were up
  • WSSWSS
    [cite]Posted By: Sparrows Lane Lion[/cite] It all still sounds like you believe you should've walked this league and I think that's your main problem.
    Hate to say it, but this is completely spot on.
  • queensland_addickqueensland_addick
    We created chances in the first six games and in the last six games. In between (for the majority of the season) we created very few chances for the strikers. There were many games where we had only one or sometimes no attempts on goal at all. Paynter, Austin, Morison or Holt would have struggled to score 20 plus goals playing in such a team. Forster scored 14 or 16? for Brighton, but how many chances have we created for him? Yes our strikers have missed a few, all strikers do, but the primary problem has been not creating enough chances, playing too negatively, rather than good attacking football.
  • SteboStebo
    [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Sparrows Lane Lion[/cite]It all still sounds like you believe you should've walked this league and I think that's your main problem.
    Hate to say it, but this is completely spot on.

    no we made that mistake going into the championship. this time i felt the overall consensus from the fans was a mid-table, maybe challenging for a play-off place. some people thought we would be battling relegation.

    no i don't think over confidence or too high expectations was a issue at all
  • WSSWSS
    [cite]Posted By: Stebo[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Sparrows Lane Lion[/cite]It all still sounds like you believe you should've walked this league and I think that's your main problem.
    Hate to say it, but this is completely spot on.

    no we made that mistake going into the championship. this time i felt the overall consensus from the fans was a mid-table, maybe challenging for a play-off place. some people thought we would be battling relegation.

    no i don't think over confidence or too high expectations was a issue at all
    Split down the middle I think, although the more, ahem, vocal are slating Parkinson, players etc for not going up.
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