hmmmmmm might b shrewd bit of business, esp if souly learns something bout defending the 'long ball' from big tony and sol
could come back to us alot betta player adapted to the english league, we just don;t have time for him to settle in at the mo, also might get half decent price, if he fails misrable then we no we have to sell him back to some poncy european league
still not keen on andy o'brian, still he may surprise me
I was ideally hoping that Diawara would improve after learning off Adams and Campbell and coming back a better player but from what he says there it looks like they can make it permanent if he impresses. Surely if he impresses we'd want to keep him?
Fuck that swap El Kak would make more sense,I still think Diawara will come good,even if it is next year!!!!.I remember when we were relegated last time,Carl Tiler absolutely pissed the then 1st division and I think Diawara would also,just needs time to acclimatise.
Agree - still think he will come good, and probably at Portsmouth.
He's come to a new country and played for three different managers as part of a Keystone Cops defence, so it's hardly surprising that he's not had the best of times.
I think people are basing their assumptions that Diawara will "come good" on the basis that he has not played that many games, which is wishful thinking in my book. Problem is that it looks like his game is just not suited to the hurly burly of the EPL with the physical approach, long balls and speed of the game so he may never suit the style of play in the EPL no matter who he plays for. Like Tony Cascarino said at the time £3.7 million is a MASSIVE amount of money to a club like Sochaux and out of all proportion to what the guy was actually worth in the real world. Murray was a bit out of order but I don't think he was really having a go at Diawara, he was really having a crack at Dowie for signing him in the first place. Murray would clearly have asked Dowie, "Is this guy worth this amouny of money?" Dowie's infamous response was, "He's the best defender you've never heard of." That's why Murray was so aggrieved, he had been persuaded by Dowie to part with nearly FOUR MILLION QUID on an absolute turkey. That's an AWFUL LOT of money for Charlton.
Personally I rate him, I think its more adjustment/circumstances that is his problem. I think the problem is our midfield are exposing the back four so much.
I think he is a great defender 95% of the time. But he switches off, he's cost us 2 goals (Jensen & ?) already should have been 3 (can't remember the exact games right now)
We can't afford any player to switch off at anytime, expecially a center back.
Diawara was another of Dowie's summer signings, at £3.7m, but Pardew seems less keen on letting the centre-back go, indicating that the Senegalese may be involved against Middlesbrough tomorrow. "He has got a very good chance of playing on Saturday," the Charlton manager said. "My first impression is that I've liked what I've seen. I think he needs to learn about the Premier League and he needs some guidance and I think Ben Thatcher will be a help to him. Andy O'Brien is a good experienced player and could offer most Premiership teams some guidance. But at the moment it is not going to happen.
[cite]Posted By: reserves[/cite]I think he is a great defender 95% of the time. But he switches off, he's cost us 2 goals (Jensen & ?) already should have been 3 (can't remember the exact games right now)
We can't afford any player to switch off at anytime, expecially a center back.
He lost the flight of the ball twice at Wigan which led to goals
Diawara is one of the few players to have his own song so should be kept just for that.
He is strong, fast (nearly as fast as Romm according to ID), puts a tackle in and recovers well. But he has to recover well cos he get wrong side and loses his man too often. From a storming start he has started to look more and more worried, and worrying, every game. Should have been sent off at Arsenal for two yellows or maybe even a straight red.
Maybe Pardew can sort him out but a struggling team low on confidence with a different back four every week playing in front of a rookie keeper who doesnt get his calls right isn't good place to learn about the premiership.
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could come back to us alot betta player adapted to the english league, we just don;t have time for him to settle in at the mo, also might get half decent price, if he fails misrable then we no we have to sell him back to some poncy european league
still not keen on andy o'brian, still he may surprise me
He's come to a new country and played for three different managers as part of a Keystone Cops defence, so it's hardly surprising that he's not had the best of times.
Problem is that it looks like his game is just not suited to the hurly burly of the EPL with the physical approach, long balls and speed of the game so he may never suit the style of play in the EPL no matter who he plays for.
Like Tony Cascarino said at the time £3.7 million is a MASSIVE amount of money to a club like Sochaux and out of all proportion to what the guy was actually worth in the real world.
Murray was a bit out of order but I don't think he was really having a go at Diawara, he was really having a crack at Dowie for signing him in the first place.
Murray would clearly have asked Dowie, "Is this guy worth this amouny of money?" Dowie's infamous response was, "He's the best defender you've never heard of."
That's why Murray was so aggrieved, he had been persuaded by Dowie to part with nearly FOUR MILLION QUID on an absolute turkey. That's an AWFUL LOT of money for Charlton.
really? good
We can't afford any player to switch off at anytime, expecially a center back.
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Diawara was another of Dowie's summer signings, at £3.7m, but Pardew seems less keen on letting the centre-back go, indicating that the Senegalese may be involved against Middlesbrough tomorrow. "He has got a very good chance of playing on Saturday," the Charlton manager said. "My first impression is that I've liked what I've seen. I think he needs to learn about the Premier League and he needs some guidance and I think Ben Thatcher will be a help to him. Andy O'Brien is a good experienced player and could offer most Premiership teams some guidance. But at the moment it is not going to happen.
What is Pards meaning by that?
What is Pards meaning by that?
He lost the flight of the ball twice at Wigan which led to goals
He is strong, fast (nearly as fast as Romm according to ID), puts a tackle in and recovers well. But he has to recover well cos he get wrong side and loses his man too often. From a storming start he has started to look more and more worried, and worrying, every game. Should have been sent off at Arsenal for two yellows or maybe even a straight red.
Maybe Pardew can sort him out but a struggling team low on confidence with a different back four every week playing in front of a rookie keeper who doesnt get his calls right isn't good place to learn about the premiership.
I'm sticking with the Times, decent sport, good news content
Speaking of storming starts, just what has gone wrong with Faye. He was superb in his first few games for us
My politics is bang in the middle, but probably a tad to the left. Why you do you believe everything you read in Mail?